I hate Massachusetts

gio · 11-04-2009, 02:08 PM

I forgot to get my 1 inspected and so I got a ticket for it this morning. I don't mind paying the $50 fine but what seems ridiculous is that it is counted as a moving violation that is going to be 2 points on my insurance. That stupid ticket is going to cost me somewhere around $350/year for the next 6 years. That's over $2000 for forgetting to get my car inspected!

Of course I'm going to have to appeal it and hope that somehow they can make it a non-moving violation. Anyone have any luck with that?

larryn · 11-04-2009, 02:43 PM

It's certainly worth a shot!

Fwiw, I believe it is listed as a moving violation in all states that have inspections, since you are driving (in effect) an illegal car. Stinks either way, but for the $$, you'd be foolish to not try to get it reduced. The fine is okay, but the surcharges are only going to the insurance companies (it's BS, IMO), and I'd think that there may be a decent chance that the courts will work with you.

and 1 · 11-04-2009, 04:28 PM

man i wish there was a FAIL smiley!

larryn · 11-04-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by and 1

man i wish there was a FAIL smiley!

and 1 · 11-05-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by larryn

oh snap

edit: how did you....waaaait i see the link now. i'm calling shenanigans!

m_thompson · 11-05-2009, 11:17 AM

The inspection due date for mine was entered into the iDrive when I picked it up.

AtoB · 11-05-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gio

I forgot to get my 1 inspected and so I got a ticket for it this morning. I don't mind paying the $50 fine but what seems ridiculous is that it is counted as a moving violation that is going to be 2 points on my insurance. That stupid ticket is going to cost me somewhere around $350/year for the next 6 years. That's over $2000 for forgetting to get my car inspected!

Of course I'm going to have to appeal it and hope that somehow they can make it a non-moving violation. Anyone have any luck with that?

contest it... offer to pay 'court fees' if needed... they are usually pretty easy to over-turn if you make the effort.

amybang · 11-05-2009, 03:01 PM

Damn! That does suck! Was it due in October?

A few years back I got pulled over in Waltham for a sticker violation. I'd been on work travel for a couple months almost continuously and my ex didn't realize the inspection was due. I think it was my genuine astonishment that made him give me a warning and I had it fixed later that day. But seriously, I thought it was always a warning the first time for that. He must have been a real dick.

I am glad that it's a reminder for service with BMW - Peabody called me up to schedule the inspection this year.

amy!

Bdh821 · 11-05-2009, 08:06 PM

I won a ticket I appealed for no front license plate. I agree, Massachusetts does suck.

BimmerLearner · 11-06-2009, 09:37 AM

It does, when i first moved here i got a 250 buck speeding fine... its cost me every year since... everyone said just pay it, after i paid it, everyone said oh you never pay, you appeal.

arrutled · 11-06-2009, 09:40 AM

Mass<NC

amybang · 11-12-2009, 08:54 AM

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Mass<NC

Mass < CA too

There every 18 months you can get a speeding ticket. You pay it, you pay a small fee for "traffic school" which you can do online now, and no points on your license, no insurance penalty.

I didn't know you were supposed to fight them in MA. I have two that I'm waiting to age off my record.

amy!

jkoral · 08-18-2011, 10:01 PM

Sorry to resurrect an old thread. The last time I received tickets in NY and NH, they were not reciprocal to MA (the NY Trooper even told me to just pay it and it won't show up on my MA insurance -- it didn't).

Does anyone know if this has changed and what border states MA does have reciprocity? I know they are not part of the Drivers License Compact (DLC), but they are part of Non-Resident Violators Compact (NRVC). The RMV website does say they share information with other states, but doesn't list specific states and is very vague.

Been doing a bunch of searching but can't find anything definite. Any MA licensed drivers receive any recent tickets in NY, CT, NH, VT, ME or RI?

and 1 · 08-19-2011, 09:21 AM

i like when old threads come back to life

ny is the only out-of-state ticket i've gotten. it was a speeding ticket, but i plead guilty to a lesser charge (rolling through a stop sign). i think that one is on my record though...

mrleisure · 08-19-2011, 12:33 PM

I got a ticket in North Dakota for 10 over. It was $10.

jkoral · 08-19-2011, 08:58 PM

I've gotten a fair number of tickets in NY, but not recently.

On my first road trip in my then brand new '96 318ti Sport, I got pulled over twice in one weekend by NYS Troopers. Got a ticket the first time for speeding, but the second time he let me off with a warning. (Funny story, my registration was in my manual zipper pouch right on top of the speeding ticket from the day earlier, I quickly slid out the registration hoping the trooper with the flashlight didn't see the ticket).

I got nabbed again in my '99 E46 on I-90 near Rochester. Then again that same year on I-93 just north of Manchester.

All during that time I continued to have the highest SDIP rating. Yet, the SDIP page on mass.gov says:

"Out-of-state incidents
Each out-of-state incident (traffic law violation or at-fault accident) is counted as one surchargeable incident."

I don't use a radar detector and I'm driving faster today than I ever did and it's been years since I've gotten a ticket. I did see this article in the globe a couple weeks ago:

Headline: Putting the brakes on speeding tickets
Date: Jul 31, 2011
http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas..._campaign=8315

"The number of speeding tickets handed out across the state has sharply declined, dropping by more than one-third since 2008, as budget-crunched police departments scaled back traffic details to focus on crime."

This definitely correlates with what I see driving on 495, 93 and 128 each day.

Rachel · 08-20-2011, 07:09 AM

I dont believe my NH tickets showed up on my MA insurance.

Haywood · 08-20-2011, 07:40 AM

Sorry, guys. NOTHING is worse than VA. The only state in the country (and DC) that doesn't allow radar detectors. Going 20 miles over the speed limit is an automatic reckless driving ticket which is considered a criminal offense! It's the same as DWI if you can believe that sh!t. So, mandatory court appearance and you better get yourself a lawyer. All told, it's about a $1500 mistake.

Yeah, I'm a bit bitter. Going to court next month for my 3rd time.

jkoral · 08-20-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Haywood

Sorry, guys. NOTHING is worse than VA. The only state in the country (and DC) that doesn't allow radar detectors. Going 20 miles over the speed limit is an automatic reckless driving ticket which is considered a criminal offense! It's the same as DWI if you can believe that sh!t. So, mandatory court appearance and you better get yourself a lawyer. All told, it's about a $1500 mistake.

Yeah, I'm a bit bitter. Going to court next month for my 3rd time.

Yes, I'm aware of VA and I would agree it's one of the worst, if not the worst. That sucks. Last time I drove in VA I was very cautious.

(I actually don't hate MA at all, just piggybacking on a MA/ticket related thread. The only thing I don't like tickets stay on your record for 6 years).

11-04-2009, 02:08 PM	#1
gio Captain 50 Rep 628 Posts Drives: Join Date: Apr 2008 iTrader: (0)	I hate Massachusetts I forgot to get my 1 inspected and so I got a ticket for it this morning. I don't mind paying the $50 fine but what seems ridiculous is that it is counted as a moving violation that is going to be 2 points on my insurance. That stupid ticket is going to cost me somewhere around $350/year for the next 6 years. That's over $2000 for forgetting to get my car inspected! Of course I'm going to have to appeal it and hope that somehow they can make it a non-moving violation. Anyone have any luck with that? __________________ Waiting on a 2015 M235
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larryn Lieutenant General 2146 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	It's certainly worth a shot! Fwiw, I believe it is listed as a moving violation in all states that have inspections, since you are driving (in effect) an illegal car. Stinks either way, but for the $$, you'd be foolish to not try to get it reduced. The fine is okay, but the surcharges are only going to the insurance companies (it's BS, IMO), and I'd think that there may be a decent chance that the courts will work with you.
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and 1 winter mode 62 Rep 2,057 Posts Drives: 08 135i, 88 M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Somerville, MA iTrader: (0) Garage List 1988 BMW M3 [0.00] 2008 135i [7.50]	man i wish there was a FAIL smiley! __________________ 88 M3: BMWCCA J Sport 08 135: because streetcar
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m_thompson Major 133 Rep 1,416 Posts Drives: M-Sport 128i, 328xi, 3.0CS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New England, USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 128i [0.00] 1972 3.0CS [10.00]	The inspection due date for mine was entered into the iDrive when I picked it up. __________________ '09 128i - Black Sapphire Metallic\Coral Red\Glacier Silver\N51 DISA\6MT\Navigation\Premium\M-Sport\Heated seats\Xenon\Headlights\iPod\Smartphone\Euro Delivery
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amybang ... and Orca too! 29 Rep 845 Posts Drives: 128i Convertible (AW/CR) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Belmont, MA iTrader: (0)	Damn! That does suck! Was it due in October? A few years back I got pulled over in Waltham for a sticker violation. I'd been on work travel for a couple months almost continuously and my ex didn't realize the inspection was due. I think it was my genuine astonishment that made him give me a warning and I had it fixed later that day. But seriously, I thought it was always a warning the first time for that. He must have been a real dick. I am glad that it's a reminder for service with BMW - Peabody called me up to schedule the inspection this year. amy!
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11-05-2009, 08:06 PM	#9
Bdh821 Major 44 Rep 1,265 Posts Drives: 2021 M550i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: MA iTrader: (3)	I won a ticket I appealed for no front license plate. I agree, Massachusetts does suck.
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11-06-2009, 09:37 AM	#10
BimmerLearner My car is less than a week old and on its 3rd tank 12 Rep 379 Posts Drives: Tiag 135 Vert Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NE iTrader: (0)	It does, when i first moved here i got a 250 buck speeding fine... its cost me every year since... everyone said just pay it, after i paid it, everyone said oh you never pay, you appeal.
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arrutled Colonel 103 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	Mass<NC __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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jkoral Lieutenant Colonel 1019 Rep 1,963 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 LBB 6MT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MA iTrader: (7)	Sorry to resurrect an old thread. The last time I received tickets in NY and NH, they were not reciprocal to MA (the NY Trooper even told me to just pay it and it won't show up on my MA insurance -- it didn't). Does anyone know if this has changed and what border states MA does have reciprocity? I know they are not part of the Drivers License Compact (DLC), but they are part of Non-Resident Violators Compact (NRVC). The RMV website does say they share information with other states, but doesn't list specific states and is very vague. Been doing a bunch of searching but can't find anything definite. Any MA licensed drivers receive any recent tickets in NY, CT, NH, VT, ME or RI?
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and 1 winter mode 62 Rep 2,057 Posts Drives: 08 135i, 88 M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Somerville, MA iTrader: (0) Garage List 1988 BMW M3 [0.00] 2008 135i [7.50]	i like when old threads come back to life ny is the only out-of-state ticket i've gotten. it was a speeding ticket, but i plead guilty to a lesser charge (rolling through a stop sign). i think that one is on my record though... __________________ 88 M3: BMWCCA J Sport 08 135: because streetcar
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mrleisure Master 11 Rep 169 Posts Drives: Macan Turbo Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Coast iTrader: (0)	I got a ticket in North Dakota for 10 over. It was $10.
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jkoral Lieutenant Colonel 1019 Rep 1,963 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 LBB 6MT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MA iTrader: (7)	I've gotten a fair number of tickets in NY, but not recently. On my first road trip in my then brand new '96 318ti Sport, I got pulled over twice in one weekend by NYS Troopers. Got a ticket the first time for speeding, but the second time he let me off with a warning. (Funny story, my registration was in my manual zipper pouch right on top of the speeding ticket from the day earlier, I quickly slid out the registration hoping the trooper with the flashlight didn't see the ticket). I got nabbed again in my '99 E46 on I-90 near Rochester. Then again that same year on I-93 just north of Manchester. All during that time I continued to have the highest SDIP rating. Yet, the SDIP page on mass.gov says: "Out-of-state incidents Each out-of-state incident (traffic law violation or at-fault accident) is counted as one surchargeable incident." I don't use a radar detector and I'm driving faster today than I ever did and it's been years since I've gotten a ticket. I did see this article in the globe a couple weeks ago: Headline: Putting the brakes on speeding tickets Date: Jul 31, 2011 http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas..._campaign=8315 "The number of speeding tickets handed out across the state has sharply declined, dropping by more than one-third since 2008, as budget-crunched police departments scaled back traffic details to focus on crime." This definitely correlates with what I see driving on 495, 93 and 128 each day.
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08-20-2011, 07:09 AM	#17
Rachel Dangerous Curves 94 Rep 1,148 Posts Drives: better than the boys ;) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Shirley, MA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 Ducati 848EVO [0.00] 2008 135i [0.00]	I dont believe my NH tickets showed up on my MA insurance. __________________
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08-20-2011, 07:40 AM	#18
Haywood I know a thing or 2 about a thing or 2... 3101 Rep 3,470 Posts Drives: E36 M3 Coupe, e39 M5, i3s Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: LI, NY iTrader: (11) Garage List 2003 BMW e39 M5 [0.00] 1997 BMW e36 M3 [0.00]	Sorry, guys. NOTHING is worse than VA. The only state in the country (and DC) that doesn't allow radar detectors. Going 20 miles over the speed limit is an automatic reckless driving ticket which is considered a criminal offense! It's the same as DWI if you can believe that sh!t. So, mandatory court appearance and you better get yourself a lawyer. All told, it's about a $1500 mistake. Yeah, I'm a bit bitter. Going to court next month for my 3rd time. __________________ 2019 Imperial Blue Metallic i3s BEV 2003 Le Mans Blue e39 M5 Dinan S1 1997 Alpine White e36 M3 (the old gal) 2013 Mineral White e92 M3 (sold ) 2014 Carbon Black 650i M-sport (sold)
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