Run-Flats In The News

CoolToolGuy · 07-27-2009, 10:45 AM

I saw this today:

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2009...NEWS/907279993

Good news for those of us who can't stand run-flats.

Have Fun,
Rick

m_thompson · 07-27-2009, 12:17 PM

Got Michelin's on my M-sport 128i.

dick w · 07-27-2009, 01:34 PM

This isn't necessarily good news for those of us who buy cars designed with the things. Either we stick with run flats that will stay expensive and hard to get or we drive around without any protection from flat tires or we have to carry/maintain one of the glue can kits or we have to buy and carry (where in a 1 series?) spare tire/wheel/jack.

The more encouraging thread recently was the one on improvements in the 3rd gen Bridgestone run flats. But that news didn't address cost/availability.

jkp1187 · 07-27-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dick w

This isn't necessarily good news for those of us who buy cars designed with the things. Either we stick with run flats that will stay expensive and hard to get or we drive around without any protection from flat tires or we have to carry/maintain one of the glue can kits or we have to buy and carry (where in a 1 series?) spare tire/wheel/jack.

The more encouraging thread recently was the one on improvements in the 3rd gen Bridgestone run flats. But that news didn't address cost/availability.

I agree, unfortunately, this is N O T good news for those of us who have cars with runflats whether we like 'em or not.

akak1997 · 07-27-2009, 04:49 PM

next gen run flat from Bridgestone seems promising
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/06/r...ck-out-of-run/

nordique14 · 07-27-2009, 05:39 PM

That article is terrible. It paints all runflats with the same brush. The tires on the Honda were part of the Michelin PAX system. To use those tires you need a special rim. Also, special machinery and training is required to service the PAX tires. That is not true of other runflats (such as our Bridgestone runflats) which can be replaced/repaired at any tire shop and the rims can be used for "regular" tires. The Honda owners had issues with the PAX system and not the concept of runflats themselves.

dick w · 07-27-2009, 05:49 PM

But lots of other owners of other run flats have issues with the other run flats as well.

nordique14 · 07-27-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dick w

But lots of other owners of other run flats have issues with the other run flats as well.

Don't get me wrong. I hate the current run flats. I ditched mine for a proper set of good-old-go-flat tires. But if I did get a flat with the Bridgestone run flats, I had the choice of mounting a regular tire (or another run flat) and could get that done anywhere. Michelin PAX owners need to go somewhere that has the right equipment. The article does not make that (critical) point. PAX runflats are much, much worse for the consumer than standard run flats.

m_thompson · 07-27-2009, 07:12 PM

This is starting to sound like the Michelin/BMW TRX fiasco from the 1970s.

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dick w Private 1 Rep 79 Posts Drives: '09 135i coupe TiAg/Coral Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0)	This isn't necessarily good news for those of us who buy cars designed with the things. Either we stick with run flats that will stay expensive and hard to get or we drive around without any protection from flat tires or we have to carry/maintain one of the glue can kits or we have to buy and carry (where in a 1 series?) spare tire/wheel/jack. The more encouraging thread recently was the one on improvements in the 3rd gen Bridgestone run flats. But that news didn't address cost/availability.
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akak1997 Major 62 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: BMW 135 @ 135mph Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	next gen run flat from Bridgestone seems promising http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/06/r...ck-out-of-run/
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nordique14 Major 53 Rep 1,477 Posts Drives: SGM 135i 'vert Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sharks Territory iTrader: (5)	That article is terrible. It paints all runflats with the same brush. The tires on the Honda were part of the Michelin PAX system. To use those tires you need a special rim. Also, special machinery and training is required to service the PAX tires. That is not true of other runflats (such as our Bridgestone runflats) which can be replaced/repaired at any tire shop and the rims can be used for "regular" tires. The Honda owners had issues with the PAX system and not the concept of runflats themselves.
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dick w Private 1 Rep 79 Posts Drives: '09 135i coupe TiAg/Coral Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0)	But lots of other owners of other run flats have issues with the other run flats as well.
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