My 1 let me down this morning

kits135i · 03-22-2013, 07:13 PM

I have had my car for just about a month now. It failed me on the freeway. I was driving to working and the car chimed. It showed a temp light, then a low ressivor light or something like that. Had zero power and pushing the gas pedal at all just made the car chime at me. I was able to get it to the shoulder. Over 2 hours waiting for a tow truck. There was oil all over the front underneath the car. Dealer said it had a overhead code, but the temp gauge on the dash was still at 160 as I just started it for the morning about 10 mins or so.

Glad it was a CPO with full warranty. Hope this is a one off and when I get it back I will be good to go for a long time.

Anyone ever heard of something like this?

awns729 · 03-22-2013, 07:18 PM

Where was the oil coming from? Are you sure it wasn't coolant?

Dackelone · 03-22-2013, 07:21 PM

Temp gauge on the dash(of 135i's) is for oil temp. Sounds like your waterpump or thermostat just took a dump. Seem's common at 60K to 80K miles.

One easy way to remember which icon is which is... was it a "sail boat"(coolant) or a "tea kettle" (oil). I bet it was the sail boat.

IF it was your waterpump... you could vote in my survey...

e8x electric waterpump failure poll...
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798195

1speedbike · 03-22-2013, 08:16 PM

Yep sounds like a water pump failure of coolant leak. Either way, the coolant reservoir was low/not effectively cooling the engine. As dackel said, very common to BMWs in the that are approaching 100k miles. Glad you're under warranty, too, since a new pump is close to $500!

rking117 · 03-22-2013, 09:14 PM

WATER PUMPPPPPPPP!!!!!!! that is exactly what i experienced when my Z4 pump failed. a few years ago.

IDBMW · 03-23-2013, 12:34 PM

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My water pump failed a week ago today. I was about 1 mile from the BMW dealer when the dash light came on. I pulled over to check it out. When I tried to remove the cap for the tank coolant tries to come out. Started it up with no dash light until about ¼ mile then it came on and the car would not go over 2K rpm. Coasted into the dealer and had to wait half hour until they opened. I figured it was the water pump since the REST function would not put out warm air with the engine off. My car has 56k miles and I bought the extended warranty on a group buy so I only had to pay $50.

Does anyone know how much a water pump and install cost. My paperwork did not have the price for the work and when I e-mailed the service person they never returned my e-mail. I just want to see if the extended warranty is paying off.

Dackelone · 03-23-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IDBMW

Does anyone know how much a water pump and install cost. My paperwork did not have the price for the work and when I e-mailed the service person they never returned my e-mail. I just want to see if the extended warranty is paying off.

About $1,200 to ~$1,400 at most BMW dealerships. You can buy the parts from vendors(BMW dealerships who do mail order) who advertise on our forum for ~$500 waterpump and thermostat. Labor will run an hour or two plus a gallon of coolant.

FNFZ4 · 03-23-2013, 10:30 PM

so these cars automatically shut off when temp rises to prevent damage to the engine?

kits135i · 03-24-2013, 10:55 AM

Yes first light was a sailboat looking that was yellow then hit red in color. The second light was a box with waves close to the bottom of the box.

The car just hit 19k miles. Its very low miles.

I am not sure if it was oil or not. That's what the tow truck guy said when latching it down to the bed.

I will let e everyone know when I get it back what it was. Thanks for your support.

Lester · 03-24-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FNFZ4

so these cars automatically shut off when temp rises to prevent damage to the engine?

Yes, because no matter how many gauges, chimes or warning lights go off, many drivers still want to continue driving. Overheating is the worst thing that can happen to any engine. Well, that and over-revving - but the computer shuts the engine down for that too.

Hydrolock (ingesting water) will also destroy an engine, but the computer doesn't check for that.

FNFZ4 · 03-24-2013, 06:30 PM

good to know. Thanks Lester!

kits135i · 03-26-2013, 10:20 AM

Well it was the water pump. They said it was a short from the positive cable off the battery that fried the unit. They said the cable was loose which is why it fried.

I took it back to the CPO dealer I bought it to look at why the cable was loose. When driving it there it really seem to have a lack in power so I asked them to look at that too.

Thanks everyone.

bmw1racer · 03-26-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kits135i

I took it back to the CPO dealer I bought it to look at why the cable was loose.

Wonder if that had to do with the recent battery cable recall...

Isdaako · 03-28-2013, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bmw1racer

Wonder if that had to do with the recent battery cable recall...

Just what I was wondering.
Keep us posted.

kits135i · 03-28-2013, 09:40 AM

Hello Everyone,

Thank you again for all who posted to make me feel better that my new to me 1 just had a fluke. I am glad to have her back. I did miss her a lot as its been gone for almost a full week.

So as stated the water pump failed due to a loose wire on the positive battery terminal that cause everything to fry per BMW words. I asked both BMW dealers and they said this was NO way part of the recall and this issue was due to whoever left the wire loose. Weather it be the previous owner or a BMW tech who forgot to tighten it. If I read my paperwork right it said R/F Seat is where the cable was fried at. The recall is further back according to them. Both dealers though there might have been some sort of stereo system upgrade that was done and ripped out before the car was traded in thus the loose wire.

This wire also caused the power loss. BMW dealer said it threw some codes in the computer that kind of limped mode the car in a way to cause it not to go full power. After replacement of the bad wire and removal of the codes in the computer the power was back.

They also found some front wheel sensors to be bad and replaced that as well as the brake pads.

Everything was done under warranty. The paperwork looked like it would have been expensive...

My factory warranty end in October and the CPO warranty end in end of 2015. Maybe this was the calling I needed to look into an extended warranty. Any suggest which to go with?

brio · 03-28-2013, 10:12 AM

Just be glad it was all covered under the CPO because it would've been a freaking arm and leg$$$$ for all that if not.

shah269 · 03-28-2013, 10:39 AM

$500 for a MOFO water pump!
JUDAS ON A FUCKING STICK!
That's nuts!

03-22-2013, 07:13 PM	#1
kits135i Private First Class 9 Rep 145 Posts Drives: Coming Soon Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	My 1 let me down this morning I have had my car for just about a month now. It failed me on the freeway. I was driving to working and the car chimed. It showed a temp light, then a low ressivor light or something like that. Had zero power and pushing the gas pedal at all just made the car chime at me. I was able to get it to the shoulder. Over 2 hours waiting for a tow truck. There was oil all over the front underneath the car. Dealer said it had a overhead code, but the temp gauge on the dash was still at 160 as I just started it for the morning about 10 mins or so. Glad it was a CPO with full warranty. Hope this is a one off and when I get it back I will be good to go for a long time. Anyone ever heard of something like this?
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03-22-2013, 07:18 PM	#2
awns729 Lieutenant 33 Rep 419 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Convertible Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: West Nyack, NY iTrader: (4)	Where was the oil coming from? Are you sure it wasn't coolant?
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03-22-2013, 07:21 PM	#3
Dackelone European Editor 10539 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	Temp gauge on the dash(of 135i's) is for oil temp. Sounds like your waterpump or thermostat just took a dump. Seem's common at 60K to 80K miles. One easy way to remember which icon is which is... was it a "sail boat"(coolant) or a "tea kettle" (oil). I bet it was the sail boat. IF it was your waterpump... you could vote in my survey... e8x electric waterpump failure poll... http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798195 __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide
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03-22-2013, 08:16 PM	#4
1speedbike Brigadier General 732 Rep 3,274 Posts Drives: 2022 X4 M40i, 2008 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: MKE iTrader: (15)	Yep sounds like a water pump failure of coolant leak. Either way, the coolant reservoir was low/not effectively cooling the engine. As dackel said, very common to BMWs in the that are approaching 100k miles. Glad you're under warranty, too, since a new pump is close to $500! __________________ 2022 X4 M40i - 2008 135i - 2015 F700GS On Order - 2024 i4 M50 Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived... Mmhm.
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03-22-2013, 09:14 PM	#5
rking117 Lieutenant Colonel 118 Rep 1,668 Posts Drives: Z4 3.0i & 320i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	WATER PUMPPPPPPPP!!!!!!! that is exactly what i experienced when my Z4 pump failed. a few years ago. __________________ Enjoying an E89 Z4, F30 320i and Fiat Abarth // E85 Z4 (sold), E82 128i (sold), Fiat Pop 500 (sold)
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03-23-2013, 10:30 PM	#8
FNFZ4 New Member 6 Rep 22 Posts Drives: BMW 128i & Z4 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Glendale, CA iTrader: (0)	so these cars automatically shut off when temp rises to prevent damage to the engine?
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03-24-2013, 10:55 AM	#9
kits135i Private First Class 9 Rep 145 Posts Drives: Coming Soon Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	Yes first light was a sailboat looking that was yellow then hit red in color. The second light was a box with waves close to the bottom of the box. The car just hit 19k miles. Its very low miles. I am not sure if it was oil or not. That's what the tow truck guy said when latching it down to the bed. I will let e everyone know when I get it back what it was. Thanks for your support.
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03-24-2013, 06:30 PM	#11
FNFZ4 New Member 6 Rep 22 Posts Drives: BMW 128i & Z4 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Glendale, CA iTrader: (0)	good to know. Thanks Lester!
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03-26-2013, 10:20 AM	#12
kits135i Private First Class 9 Rep 145 Posts Drives: Coming Soon Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	Well it was the water pump. They said it was a short from the positive cable off the battery that fried the unit. They said the cable was loose which is why it fried. I took it back to the CPO dealer I bought it to look at why the cable was loose. When driving it there it really seem to have a lack in power so I asked them to look at that too. Thanks everyone.
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03-28-2013, 09:40 AM	#15
kits135i Private First Class 9 Rep 145 Posts Drives: Coming Soon Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	Hello Everyone, Thank you again for all who posted to make me feel better that my new to me 1 just had a fluke. I am glad to have her back. I did miss her a lot as its been gone for almost a full week. So as stated the water pump failed due to a loose wire on the positive battery terminal that cause everything to fry per BMW words. I asked both BMW dealers and they said this was NO way part of the recall and this issue was due to whoever left the wire loose. Weather it be the previous owner or a BMW tech who forgot to tighten it. If I read my paperwork right it said R/F Seat is where the cable was fried at. The recall is further back according to them. Both dealers though there might have been some sort of stereo system upgrade that was done and ripped out before the car was traded in thus the loose wire. This wire also caused the power loss. BMW dealer said it threw some codes in the computer that kind of limped mode the car in a way to cause it not to go full power. After replacement of the bad wire and removal of the codes in the computer the power was back. They also found some front wheel sensors to be bad and replaced that as well as the brake pads. Everything was done under warranty. The paperwork looked like it would have been expensive... My factory warranty end in October and the CPO warranty end in end of 2015. Maybe this was the calling I needed to look into an extended warranty. Any suggest which to go with?
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03-28-2013, 10:12 AM	#16
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03-28-2013, 10:39 AM	#17
shah269 Major 315 Rep 1,035 Posts Drives: 2009 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	$500 for a MOFO water pump! JUDAS ON A FUCKING STICK! That's nuts!
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