JUST broke down

Monterra · 07-06-2009, 05:28 PM

I saw that car there too, sweet looking ride, dig the top color. Good luck with them. Poor reviews(service) and no weekend hours kept me away in the end. Salespeople were very nice though, hopefully service will be good for you.

Yes2m3cs · 07-06-2009, 06:47 PM

I just picked up my car tonight from the dealer and got my software updated but the tech didnt print out the results due to computer problems. I dont know what level of software I got but the car still pulls real good and no lag so far.

Brian

Robert · 07-06-2009, 07:28 PM

If not HFPF then there's still a problem. Tell them to fix it because it will be one step closer to envoking lemon law next time you go in. Keep us updated

mtla4 · 07-06-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneSkippy

Not to mention, when people bring their cars in, knowing the HPFP is going bad, the dealers won't do anything until you're calling them from the side of the road basically.

In that case you park you call a towing and you bring it to the dealer and say that it dies on you. Honestly I don't have any faith in Bmw turbo engines. Some people already had wastegate issues etc ...we'll see in a few years how the hoses, piping, dv hold up.

Lucky1 · 07-06-2009, 08:52 PM

Sorry to hear about your car. This is really disappointing to hear about.
Does anyone believe BMW will have a working pump available by the time the original factory warranty is out for the majority of owners? Breaking down is not fun, especially when the car costs so much to begin with.

gemini330zhp · 07-06-2009, 11:51 PM

I wonder if there is a aftermarket HPFP available????

lacrosse · 07-07-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by macmook

Last week I started the 1'r and dropped the top after work. It started right up but the console was flashing random icons and the lower computer pane had a random green bar across it's width. The gauges pegged at zero and occasionally flipped up to wher I would expect them and then after a few seconds dropped back to zero. Of course on the way to BMW, about 500 yards from the entrance all settled down. I stopped the car in the yard and restarted. The "service engine soon" lamp remained lit. The top would not go up. It threw NO codes. So BMW reprogrammed the entire car - it took all night.

Today it was just the large engine icon and a total loss of all power. No steering or brake assist and a dead engine. Fortunately I was on 9W just south of Port Ewen so I could coast over. (our 135is don't steer for $#!& without power) It would have been a LOT of fun if I was in my usual fast lane on the NYS Thruway.

Trying to restart, the engine would be hesitant to start, run for 10 seconds and shut down. After a quick look at the 10 or so codes, service doesn't believe it is the HPFP, but it sure sounds like it to me. Service has been told by BMW that the HPFP problem was fixed in all 2009 vehicles.

We shall see. I was supposed to go to Michigan (I'm on vacation this week) but the Admiral (my wife) understandably refuses to travel in the 135 even if they "fix" it...

Yipes.

Was there a 30FF code? Could be the wastegate/turbo problem that I had a few weeks back.

Good luck and keep us posted.

MOCKBA · 07-07-2009, 01:26 AM

We have big areas not covered by cell, like Yosemite. Is it risky going there?

jeremyc74 · 07-07-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gemini330zhp

I wonder if there is a aftermarket HPFP available????

Nope. It's a new technology, and they're pretty tricky to manufacture. On top of that, the different manufacturers aren't all using the same methods for controlling them. Unfortunatly these are a little more application specific than the old low pressure in-tank pumps that used to do the job. On those an aftermarket company could use the same basic unit in a lot of different applications to spread the cost around. Here they'd have to have on specifically for the N54.

Add1ct · 07-07-2009, 09:56 AM

which is all the more reason BMW has to figure this out. If I were a lawyer for BMW and I knew this was happening I would ask: "who do you think is going to be liable if someone dies because an HPFP just stopped working during an ultimate driving maneuver?"

cagekicker · 07-07-2009, 12:06 PM

good luck!

kb2dhg · 07-07-2009, 02:45 PM

This seems to be common on the 135's has any one had the same problems with the 128's?

Lucky1 · 07-07-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kb2dhg

This seems to be common on the 135's has any one had the same problems with the 128's?

No because the part isn't common to the 128i.

It has a different pump.

Slay0r · 07-08-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by InsaneSkippy

Not to mention, when people bring their cars in, knowing the HPFP is going bad, the dealers won't do anything until you're calling them from the side of the road basically.

u pretty much hit the nail on its head. I had scanned my 1 with the BT scanner, got the 2FBF "fuel pressure at ignition release" code, but i cleared it. It was supposed to come right back since the problem was still there. I guess it didn't b/c when i sat down with my SA he said "high pressure fuel pump eh,...u musta read that on the internet" and i said, "well it wasnt publically put out in a bmw brouchure." He didnt get as much of a kick out that as i did. And when i had picked up my car they did NOT replace it. they said they found nothing wrong with it.

But now a month later im feeling HEAVILY reduced power (no cel) and a couple of long cranks. Once i get it scanned again showing the 2FBF code its going back to stock and back to the dealership.

Lucky1 · 07-13-2009, 09:05 PM

Some good news (if you can call it that):

Looks like the Edmunds long term 135i is getting the long cranks and they're thinking it's the fuel pump issue. Maybe this issue will finally get some exposure in the press that it deserves. Although I have a feeling the pump will be replaced and Edmunds will just praise BMW for the quick fix but anyhoo here is the link:

http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...soon.html#more

Add1ct · 07-13-2009, 09:45 PM

didn't they tune that car? it would be interesting if the tuner code got some press too

cagekicker · 07-14-2009, 10:56 PM

what the hell is going on with the 1er?????

marvinp · 07-14-2009, 11:05 PM

macmook, so was it an HPFP failure? I'd be curious to know if 2009s suffer from the problem as well.

RambleJ · 07-15-2009, 04:38 PM

I don't see why so many of you are worried about taking your car on trips?? I have had 3 hpfp replacement and I still drive my car on every single roadtrip me and the lady take, and im carefree about it.
If you all have read entirely though the warranty packet that is included with the standard manual. You would see that there is a trip interuption benefit through BMW, basically if you are at least 100 miles out of your residence and the car breaks down(warranty covered issue). BMW will tow the car to the nearest dealership and remiburse you up to $750.00 for meals, lodging, car rentals!

jeremyc74 · 07-15-2009, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RambleJ

I don't see why so many of you are worried about taking your car on trips?? I have had 3 hpfp replacement and I still drive my car on every single roadtrip me and the lady take, and im carefree about it.
If you all have read entirely though the warranty packet that is included with the standard manual. You would see that there is a trip interuption benefit through BMW, basically if you are at least 100 miles out of your residence and the car breaks down(warranty covered issue). BMW will tow the car to the nearest dealership and remiburse you up to $750.00 for meals, lodging, car rentals!

$750 wouldn't cover the cost if I break down in FL (a trip I normally do twice a year) and have to fly home on a last minute ticket, then fly back to get the car. Not to mention all the time involved.

RambleJ · 07-15-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremyc74

$750 wouldn't cover the cost if I break down in FL (a trip I normally do twice a year) and have to fly home on a last minute ticket, then fly back to get the car. Not to mention all the time involved.

Aww well i guess, for me it works for some and not all. I can work from abroad, confrence calls on the road, along reports and agent tracking from my laptop. I guess it depends on your overall flexibility. If my hpfp were to break down I wouldn't mind a couple days extended vacation on BMW!

TMR013 · 07-15-2009, 08:01 PM

Was at the Dealership the other day and had a good discussion on the HPFP issue with one of the SA's. He's convinced it's the gas we have in the States, and the seasonal ethenol additives and other enviromental changes we have. Makes the ECU overcompensate the lean/rich mix putting added stress on the seals and causing failure. He basically said it's a crapshoot on if you get the problem, and sometimes it's more severe than other times. Might be pulling it out of his ass but it really sounded to me like this guy knew his stuff.

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RambleJ Colonel 60 Rep 2,014 Posts Drives: F10 535i M-sport Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Back in teh so cal iTrader: (2)	I don't see why so many of you are worried about taking your car on trips?? I have had 3 hpfp replacement and I still drive my car on every single roadtrip me and the lady take, and im carefree about it. If you all have read entirely though the warranty packet that is included with the standard manual. You would see that there is a trip interuption benefit through BMW, basically if you are at least 100 miles out of your residence and the car breaks down(warranty covered issue). BMW will tow the car to the nearest dealership and remiburse you up to $750.00 for meals, lodging, car rentals!
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