Pure Turbo Stage 1 N55, 5 Month Review

houtan · 12-29-2014, 02:45 PM

this is good info for dct cars.

bmw0bsession: looking forward to hearing the results after cranking up the boost. Im sure it will move, because newguys car was very fast. It will be really interesting to hear how the dct handles the higher boost.

on a side note, does anyone know of a shop that can properly install the ssp or Dodson clutch upgrade?

iuhutch · 12-29-2014, 07:23 PM

Did I not say all of this in my review

Stage 2 will require SSP or similar clutch packs IMO. It's been shown that the DCT can be overpowered with stage 1 turbo FBO and BEF...

Interested to see what Terry can get out of his F80 M3 with Pure stg2's!

iuhutch · 12-29-2014, 07:38 PM

Quick vid at 17psi

houtan · 12-29-2014, 08:17 PM

Daym. That is just like newguys car. Looks like everyone is going need dct clutch upgrades. Hopefully more options will become available to us.

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Originally Posted by iuhutch

Quick vid at 17psi

e36addict · 12-30-2014, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by iuhutch

Quick vid at 17psi

Yup. Exactly how mine is at 18-19psi

iuhutch · 12-30-2014, 10:45 AM

This is what we need>>http://www.sspperformance.com/bmw-dc...h-package.html

houtan · 12-30-2014, 12:04 PM

There is this company too, two different packages: http://dodsonmotorsport.com/?cat=86

Don't have experience with either company. anyone know who can do the install and tcu programming (if required)?

bmw0bsession · 12-30-2014, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by iuhutch

Did I not say all of this in my review

Stage 2 will require SSP or similar clutch packs IMO. It's been shown that the DCT can be overpowered with stage 1 turbo FBO and BEF...

Interested to see what Terry can get out of his F80 M3 with Pure stg2's!

Ive actually heard that one person successfully used the SSP kit others had major issues, I am trying to find the thread

snaimpally · 12-30-2014, 08:34 PM

Pure Stage 1 is an extremely cost effective upgrade that helps get the most of the upper rpm range of the engine.

Dboyz321 · 12-30-2014, 08:43 PM

Are you still running the stock cast internals? Any worries there? Thanks and glad to hear you've achieved a new level with your car.

PURE135i · 12-30-2014, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dboyz321

Are you still running the stock cast internals? Any worries there? Thanks and glad to hear you've achieved a new level with your car.

Yeah stock internals are fine so far on a lot of 400+ whp n55's. I don't think there are any 500+ WHP n55's out there yet though to test the water

iuhutch · 12-31-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bmw0bsession

Ive actually heard that one person successfully used the SSP kit others had major issues, I am trying to find the thread

This may be the thread you are referring to?

http://www.***********.com/showthrea...SP-CLUTCH-PACK

oh and @Houtan, good catch on Dodson, forgot they had kits as well.

The local guys speak of SSP more often as a solid product but I heard the customer experience may be flaky?

houtan · 01-01-2015, 06:16 PM

Check out the VTT stage 2 turbo DCT on one of the other forums . How is this clutch not slipping?

iuhutch · 01-01-2015, 06:25 PM

Who's that? Terry's? I didn't think it was DCT but I'm sure there has to be a stg2 turbo n55 dct out there!?

Sounds like SSP has installed over a dozen on n55 dcts; maybe one of those guys is on here?

houtan · 01-01-2015, 07:46 PM

Nah. Forum has boost and it has bimmer in it's name but gets blocked when I try to post the link. Running a stacked set up too. Has a video of the car going on a track too.

gemini.m3 · 01-12-2015, 06:20 PM

can somebody explain this mod? do I have to physically send in the stock turbo to them? confused

bmw0bsession · 01-12-2015, 07:20 PM

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can somebody explain this mod? do I have to physically send in the stock turbo to them? confused

Yes, you send your core they send their turbo. When they receive your core they refund you the deposit. Then you install new turbo, spend tons of money on methanol and e85. Once you have done so, sit back, relax and enjoy a nice cold beer while getting a BJ in your car. BJs are best served with boost.

PURE135i · 01-23-2015, 10:36 AM

kleach18 · 01-23-2015, 12:41 PM

Stock M4?

houtan · 01-23-2015, 03:43 PM

I believe m4 is jb4, map 7, race gas, catless, and exhaust, put down 537 whp.

Pure is pure stage 1, er CP, meth, e50, jb4 ISO map 6, bms high load BEF, stock intercooler, stock downpipe. DCT is holding strong at 20 psi on bms high load BEF!

foronoob · 05-23-2015, 10:22 PM

Guys, my 135i is 2013, DCT, Jb4, catless DP, Afe power intake, and CP-e charge pipe.
Wich mod do you recommend, Meth or Pure turbo stage 1? I wan't to slip my dct clutches. I think if I got both i will kill my dct

Sorry my english level, i'm from Argentina. :thumb down:

thanks a lot

loesch · 05-23-2015, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by foronoob

Guys, my 135i is 2013, DCT, Jb4, catless DP, Afe power intake, and CP-e charge pipe.
Wich mod do you recommend, Meth or Pure turbo stage 1? I wan't to slip my dct clutches. I think if I got both i will kill my dct

Sorry my english level, i'm from Argentina. :thumb down:

thanks a lot

Are you running regular fuel? No E85? If not I would say it depends on whether you want more low end torque, or if you want the power to build at higher RPMs. Meth will allow you to run more boost on the stock turbo's giving you more torque but you will feel the power drop off at higher RPMs. If you go with a Pure Stage 1 and no meth you'll feel the power build better at high RPMs but you'll have less torque because the octane won't be there to build high boost.

As far as how well the DCT holds each of these options, I'm not sure since I have a manual. If I recall correctly it wasn't until people got the Stage 1 with meth or E85 that they starting seeing problems.

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houtan Colonel 707 Rep 2,448 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: socal iTrader: (17) Garage List 2011 135i [9.80]	this is good info for dct cars. bmw0bsession: looking forward to hearing the results after cranking up the boost. Im sure it will move, because newguys car was very fast. It will be really interesting to hear how the dct handles the higher boost. on a side note, does anyone know of a shop that can properly install the ssp or Dodson clutch upgrade? __________________ 2011 LMB 135i DCT Pure Turbos Stage 3 (PS3) dyno results for N55 Pure Turbos N55 Stage 2 (PS2) results, reviews, install tips and docs, pictures, etc
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iuhutch Captain 111 Rep 656 Posts Drives: 18%E2%80%99 F80 ZCP Join Date: May 2013 Location: local iTrader: (0)	Did I not say all of this in my review Stage 2 will require SSP or similar clutch packs IMO. It's been shown that the DCT can be overpowered with stage 1 turbo FBO and BEF... Interested to see what Terry can get out of his F80 M3 with Pure stg2's!
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iuhutch Captain 111 Rep 656 Posts Drives: 18%E2%80%99 F80 ZCP Join Date: May 2013 Location: local iTrader: (0)	This is what we need>>http://www.sspperformance.com/bmw-dc...h-package.html
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houtan Colonel 707 Rep 2,448 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: socal iTrader: (17) Garage List 2011 135i [9.80]	There is this company too, two different packages: http://dodsonmotorsport.com/?cat=86 Don't have experience with either company. anyone know who can do the install and tcu programming (if required)?
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snaimpally Major 136 Rep 1,192 Posts Drives: 2011 335i MT Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (9) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i [0.00]	Pure Stage 1 is an extremely cost effective upgrade that helps get the most of the upper rpm range of the engine. __________________ PTF Map, Pure Turbo Stage 1, GFB DV+, Mfactory LSD, AA FMIC, B12 Pro Kit, M3 FCA, AR DP and Dynavin N6, Mosconi AS100.4, AS100.4, AS200.2, Micro Precision tweeters & woofers, Esotar2 1200
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Dboyz321 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 40 Posts Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	Are you still running the stock cast internals? Any worries there? Thanks and glad to hear you've achieved a new level with your car. Last edited by Dboyz321; 12-30-2014 at 08:44 PM.. Reason: Saw install location in thread.
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houtan Colonel 707 Rep 2,448 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: socal iTrader: (17) Garage List 2011 135i [9.80]	Check out the VTT stage 2 turbo DCT on one of the other forums . How is this clutch not slipping? Last edited by houtan; 01-01-2015 at 06:22 PM..
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iuhutch Captain 111 Rep 656 Posts Drives: 18%E2%80%99 F80 ZCP Join Date: May 2013 Location: local iTrader: (0)	Who's that? Terry's? I didn't think it was DCT but I'm sure there has to be a stg2 turbo n55 dct out there!? Sounds like SSP has installed over a dozen on n55 dcts; maybe one of those guys is on here?
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houtan Colonel 707 Rep 2,448 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: socal iTrader: (17) Garage List 2011 135i [9.80]	Nah. Forum has boost and it has bimmer in it's name but gets blocked when I try to post the link. Running a stacked set up too. Has a video of the car going on a track too.
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houtan Colonel 707 Rep 2,448 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: socal iTrader: (17) Garage List 2011 135i [9.80]	I believe m4 is jb4, map 7, race gas, catless, and exhaust, put down 537 whp. Pure is pure stage 1, er CP, meth, e50, jb4 ISO map 6, bms high load BEF, stock intercooler, stock downpipe. DCT is holding strong at 20 psi on bms high load BEF! __________________ 2011 LMB 135i DCT Pure Turbos Stage 3 (PS3) dyno results for N55 Pure Turbos N55 Stage 2 (PS2) results, reviews, install tips and docs, pictures, etc
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foronoob New Member 3 Rep 18 Posts Drives: BMW M240i ´21 Long beach blue Join Date: May 2014 Location: Argentina iTrader: (0)	Guys, my 135i is 2013, DCT, Jb4, catless DP, Afe power intake, and CP-e charge pipe. Wich mod do you recommend, Meth or Pure turbo stage 1? I wan't to slip my dct clutches. I think if I got both i will kill my dct Sorry my english level, i'm from Argentina. :thumb down: thanks a lot
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