aFe's New Dual Cone Intake! Beautiful Content Within.

holo777 · 08-01-2008, 11:11 PM

Its far better to get colder air into a turbo. Colder = denser makes for more boost at a lower turbine speed so it is easier on the turbo and more efficient. The intercooler is meant to cool the charge after the compression heating in the turbo, not heat picked up from the turbo being hot. So I like the heatshields and ducting

HP Autosport · 08-01-2008, 11:41 PM

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Xii · 08-02-2008, 12:20 AM

Tight looking setup...I'm curious as to how they squeezed out 30 horses from the intake though thats pretty insane.

Charles1 · 08-02-2008, 12:24 AM

Nice - looks like someone build an intake with some "work" behind it.

guardianangel3290 · 08-02-2008, 01:23 AM

how much longer for the RR intake anyway?

jkp1187 · 08-02-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by silverfox

This intake looks really good and brings in cold air.

Not trying to flame, but how do you figure that? It looks like the front cone will get fresh (cold) air from the ductwork, but I'm betting that the back one will just be sucking in hot air from the engine and the turbos.... (In fact, since the box isn't closed, the front cone will be bringing in some hot air, too.) Or am I missing something?

fourmicah · 08-02-2008, 09:04 AM

What's the point of having a heat shield if it's open to the engine bay? Granted the stock intake ducting is there, but I can't help but think it would be better if it was closer to the wheel well and blocked off from the engine compartment more.

WhiteOne · 08-02-2008, 10:38 AM

Looks great. Utilizes the space very well. If it seals against the hood it should work as good as it looks. Great job guys! IMHO

jkp1187 · 08-02-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fourmicah

What's the point of having a heat shield if it's open to the engine bay? Granted the stock intake ducting is there, but I can't help but think it would be better if it was closer to the wheel well and blocked off from the engine compartment more.

I'd rather have one cone in a box getting nothing but external air than two getting a mix of outside and inside. (Though I'm sure it sounds fawkin' schweet, if I may say so.)

coco_m3 · 08-03-2008, 01:16 AM

who cares!
its SEXY!
I WANT IT!

silverfox · 08-03-2008, 02:07 PM

The hood should seal off the intake compartment preventing heat soak.

Ob.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkp1187

Not trying to flame, but how do you figure that? It looks like the front cone will get fresh (cold) air from the ductwork, but I'm betting that the back one will just be sucking in hot air from the engine and the turbos.... (In fact, since the box isn't closed, the front cone will be bringing in some hot air, too.) Or am I missing something?

WhiteOne · 08-03-2008, 02:47 PM

Would adding some insulation to the heat shield make it even nicer? Just a thought...

Crowley · 08-03-2008, 03:42 PM

Looks very nice .. just a little to pricey for me though ..

Crowley

jkp1187 · 08-03-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by silverfox

The hood should seal off the intake compartment preventing heat soak.

Ob.

Maybe, although it looks like there's a gap in front of the back cone, and of course there isn't a flush seal in front where the ductwork from the grille interfaces with the shield. The cones themselves and the ductwork from the cone to the intake doesn't look like it seals off at all. Probably fine on the track when there's fresh air pouring in, but I'm guessing it'd be less so in stoplight driving.

And how would you know for sure if the box is flush against the inside of the hood?

natedog_1959 · 08-03-2008, 07:14 PM

Some putty on the top edge of the heat shield would let you know how well it is sealing against the hood. Nate

JohnnyTT · 08-03-2008, 07:14 PM

Not sure if mentioned... But it looks like the rear filter is not going to get as much air as the front filter. When the roof is down, the top will be sealed off, seems like it will get air only from the left channel and a small amount from whatever passes over the angled part of the front filter.

JohnL135I · 08-03-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyTT

Not sure if mentioned... But it looks like the rear filter is not going to get as much air as the front filter. When the roof is down, the top will be sealed off, seems like it will get air only from the left channel and a small amount from whatever passes over the angled part of the front filter.

From looking at the design, it is not an "Air Tight" intake, relying on the factory snorkel for air. I don't think there will be an issue with the rear filter drawing in the required air it need.

ChrisK · 08-04-2008, 07:03 AM

I want to see a few Dyno tests before I jump on the bandwagon. This is too much like a short ram air intake which is prone to heat soak from the engine bay.

:iono:

JohnnyTT · 08-04-2008, 09:38 AM

Well...I don't love the design, and without RAM air..I really thing the back one will have less air than the front. there is very little flow to get back there, and elsewhere, it was mentioned that the shield seals with the hood, so even less for the back one.

ChrisK · 08-04-2008, 10:21 AM

Forget keeping your engine bay clean.

My135 · 08-04-2008, 10:53 AM

I like the way that the air snorkel was integrated as part of the in-take system. This is the best in-take that I've ever seen on 1 and 3 series.

135iPSU · 08-04-2008, 11:39 AM

it definitely is one sick looking intake, although you are definitely paying the price for what you are receiving in this case, I'm not sure about those power gains though, that seems way too optimistic with just an intake.

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WhiteOne Major 28 Rep 1,000 Posts Drives: 2008 AW 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	Looks great. Utilizes the space very well. If it seals against the hood it should work as good as it looks. Great job guys! IMHO
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WhiteOne Major 28 Rep 1,000 Posts Drives: 2008 AW 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	Would adding some insulation to the heat shield make it even nicer? Just a thought...
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JohnnyTT Captain 29 Rep 750 Posts Drives: 2011 X3 3.5 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0)	Not sure if mentioned... But it looks like the rear filter is not going to get as much air as the front filter. When the roof is down, the top will be sealed off, seems like it will get air only from the left channel and a small amount from whatever passes over the angled part of the front filter.
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JohnnyTT Captain 29 Rep 750 Posts Drives: 2011 X3 3.5 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0)	Well...I don't love the design, and without RAM air..I really thing the back one will have less air than the front. there is very little flow to get back there, and elsewhere, it was mentioned that the shield seals with the hood, so even less for the back one.
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My135 Lieutenant Colonel 85 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	I like the way that the air snorkel was integrated as part of the in-take system. This is the best in-take that I've ever seen on 1 and 3 series.
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135iPSU Enthusiast 11 Rep 272 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jun 2008 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	it definitely is one sick looking intake, although you are definitely paying the price for what you are receiving in this case, I'm not sure about those power gains though, that seems way too optimistic with just an intake.
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