Installed the revised B&M 45123 in BSM 135i's car

[MadMan77]

It may take quite a bit of time to reach the 10+ GB goal. Is it going to be worth our wait, discount-wise, to stick with this GB or just to purchase it directly?

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by MadMan77

It may take quite a bit of time to reach the 10+ GB goal. Is it going to be worth our wait, discount-wise, to stick with this GB or just to purchase it directly?

Can't really answer that for you...Obviously, the more people that buy, the more leverage I have to go back to Will and ask for a bigger discount, but then it may actually take LONGER to get the bigger discount.

I know it wouldn't be worth their time to give a discount on top of their already discounted price for just one or two buyers, but their sales price is already pretty darn good...

I don't know. Up to you if you want to wait. At this point I would probably sit tight, since last communication I had with Will, he said he'll be out of town for a big racing coming up:

http://www.grand-am.com/schedule/eve...ries=r&eid=872

My best guess is if you place an order in the next 2-3 weeks he's not going to be able to fulfill it anyway since he and half the shop will be at Watkins Glen in upstate New York (if you're in the area, go check it out and say hi to Will). So given that tidbit, it's entirely up to you if you want to wait.

On a complete side-note and tangent, if you've never been to a Grand Am race, it's an experience to behold if you're a car enthusiast. Will and his team (Turner Motorsports) are pretty friendly to the public so if you can get in the paddocks, be sure to stop by and say hi. Will's the tall (he's about 6' 3") clean shaven (at least the last time I saw him) dude in his mid 30s.

[MadMan77]

Gotcha. So just stick tight for a couple weeks then. It is hard but I think I can do it.

[spdrcr]

Is this revised part from Turner anything different than I would get from any other B&M retailer? I just did a google search for this part and plenty of other vendors selling it from $165 USD:
http://www.google.com/products?q=B%2...l=en&scoring=p

[vitig]

If is possible somebody send me to spain(i pay the cost) i like one.

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by spdrcr

Is this revised part from Turner anything different than I would get from any other B&M retailer? I just did a google search for this part and plenty of other vendors selling it from $165 USD:
http://www.google.com/products?q=B%2...l=en&scoring=p

If they're selling it for $165, then chances are it's the OLD version with the taller stick. While technically it FITS, the stick does sit about 1/2" too high.

[spdrcr]

Most of those places don't have it in stock, they order in from B&M. Surely B&M would only have the 'new' version now?

[BSM 135i]

Originally Posted by spdrcr

Most of those places don't have it in stock, they order in from B&M. Surely B&M would only have the 'new' version now?

yeah and Turner

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by spdrcr

Most of those places don't have it in stock, they order in from B&M. Surely B&M would only have the 'new' version now?

If they don't have it in stock, and order the new ones, and if they HONOR that price...You are getting the steal of the century my friend.

Wouldn't hurt to email them and ask if that price is correct, ask them to double check with B&M to make sure.

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by vitig

If is possible somebody send me to spain(i pay the cost) i like one.

Put your name on the list, I'll speak to Will when he comes back from the race next week to see if he'll ship overseas.

[vitig]

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[The HACK]

Just did some digging around, and Will's back from his weekend so I got an email response back. He didn't say anything about shipping overseas, but I get the hunch that shipping is shipping and he'll have no problem honoring oversea's orders. So those of you on the fence about the order, go ahead and add your name to the list.

Also spoke with my buddies at B&M, he's the national sales manager. To clarify a few things, the prices you're seeing online are from shops and jobbers that are listing the OLD price schedule, meaning that is the price for the old unit that was made 2-3 years ago that sits higher. He doubt that anyone is going to be able to honor those prices, since the new, shorter units cost them significantly more to make and he can't even sell them to the jobbers at those prices. Retail is $299. He also confirms that B&M and Turner will be the only ones with the new, revised shifters since they just arrived late June and BSM135i is the ONLY one with the new unit so far, and that what's on the shelf and what's sold to TMS, plus BSM135i's shifter accounts for ALL the new revised 45123.

Will said he's setting up the back-end of his site to accept the special group buy pricing, and that once that special discount code is set up, it'll only work for the first 10 orders of the 45123 he receives. So this is how it's going to work, once he emails me all the pertinent information and confirm the code is working, I'm going to post it here and you guys will get to enjoy your new B&M shifters in the next few weeks.

In the mean time, if you don't mind paying full retail, this is the only other place where you can GUARANTEE that you're getting the new, revised 45123:

http://www.bmracing.com/PRODUCTS/BMW...MW-1-SERIES-04

[MadMan77]

Originally Posted by The HACK

Just did some digging around, and Will's back from his weekend so I got an email response back. He didn't say anything about shipping overseas, but I get the hunch that shipping is shipping and he'll have no problem honoring oversea's orders. So those of you on the fence about the order, go ahead and add your name to the list.

Also spoke with my buddies at B&M, he's the national sales manager. To clarify a few things, the prices you're seeing online are from shops and jobbers that are listing the OLD price schedule, meaning that is the price for the old unit that was made 2-3 years ago that sits higher. He doubt that anyone is going to be able to honor those prices, since the new, shorter units cost them significantly more to make and he can't even sell them to the jobbers at those prices. Retail is $299. He also confirms that B&M and Turner will be the only ones with the new, revised shifters since they just arrived late June and BSM135i is the ONLY one with the new unit so far, and that what's on the shelf and what's sold to TMS, plus BSM135i's shifter accounts for ALL the new revised 45123.

Will said he's setting up the back-end of his site to accept the special group buy pricing, and that once that special discount code is set up, it'll only work for the first 10 orders of the 45123 he receives. So this is how it's going to work, once he emails me all the pertinent information and confirm the code is working, I'm going to post it here and you guys will get to enjoy your new B&M shifters in the next few weeks.

In the mean time, if you don't mind paying full retail, this is the only other place where you can GUARANTEE that you're getting the new, revised 45123:

http://www.bmracing.com/PRODUCTS/BMW...MW-1-SERIES-04

That is good to hear. Since they will be limiting the GB prices for 10 units will you PM those that have been waiting, such as myself, first so we are ensured to get the new unit?

Thanks for taking the football and running with it on this. Much is appreciated especially since you have contact from within.

[The HACK]

Update: Just got off the "email" with Will's IT guy, all the back-end stuff to make the group buy is a go, Will's out of the office today but will be back to clarify whether or not he's got the items on the shelves ready to ship immediately when the order is placed.

I've also clarified about international shipping, and they will accept international orders as well, but for international shipping, you MUST email them prior to placing the order online to get a shipping quote, otherwise there'll be no "shipping" charge shown on the bill and they'll have to call YOU to confirm the additional shipping charge and can delay the order process. Email address to get international shipping straighten away:

info@turnermotorsport.com

In the subject line please mention B&M 45123 Group Buy and International Shipping quote.

I expect everything to be sorted out by Monday and everyone on the list will be contacted via PM for instructions on how to participate, you will have until Friday to place your order to ensure you're getting the revised unit and GB price. If you have any questions regarding install, don't hesitate to PM me or post...I've done at least a dozen of these installs and knows all the possible screw-ups and hurdles.

[MadMan77]

That sounds great man. I am sure I am speaking for a few people in saying thanks for all the work.

[adrean8j]

Yep, yep...just waiting for the PM.

[BlackjackMulligan]

Originally Posted by BSM 135i

I know there was someone on here who bought it a while back but returned it because it was a little notchy but that was the old piece, this one is smooth!

That was me who purchased the "old" version and didn't like it. When looking at the pictures of the new one vs the old, the biggest difference to me isn't the lower shifter handle height, but the shorter part from the pivot collar (the blue part) to where it attaches to the linkage at the bottom. My bet is that this will make it MUCH smoother. Even though I didn't like the old one it was very well made, it just wasn't made for our car. This one, being engineered just for the 1er, will be a great piece I'm sure.

I also am familar with the install so I can help too if necessary.

[ichiban]

is this 249 shipped?

[MadMan77]

I believe that will be discussed via PM.

[pnguyen1028]

Just waiting on the PM!

[The HACK]

Originally Posted by ichiban

is this 249 shipped?

I don't think so. Like I said earlier, the margin for Will is pretty slim to start with, if I can get a bigger group buy going (say 20 people) he will consider free shipping on top of maybe even a bigger discount. As is, all this work for him and I don't think he stands to make more than $500 total even if I can fill 10 orders for him.

[Evice]

if this fits my 128, I want to be in as well.