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05-21-2016, 02:45 PM | #45 | |
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By camber arm I meant the upper camber arm behind the guide rod... Keep in mind the factory toe arm bushings are pretty soft as well and lead to unintended toe changes under acceleration... |
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05-21-2016, 05:26 PM | #46 | |
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I was also reading about the inner camber arm bushings at Bimmerworld. Their description was interesting reading, and may be a possible source of toe errors. http://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspensio...aring-Kit.html |
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05-21-2016, 08:13 PM | #47 | |
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Not sure what you're talking about regarding the alignment. The toe arm is rigid (in tension and compression). The bushings are rigid. The only variable is the rotational angle of the eccentric bolt. Mark its position, and no toe change should be expected. A "professional" alignment, as opposed to any other form of measurement? Yup, 3/16ths before, 3/16ths after. Confirmed again today after a day on the road. Why that is surprising, I'm not sure. It shouldn't be. I'll throw it on a rack every year or so as usual...but again, since the start of this thread...this is 1000% NOT an alignment issue.
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Yes, we know. That's what we're discussing. That's why I pressed them out and installed polys. As well as polys for the trailing arms (subframe and uprights). ...And how the replacement of those bushings improved nothing...and in fact made the dreaded snap-back more pronounced.
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05-22-2016, 03:15 AM | #50 | |
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Was referring to number 17 here, the aftermarket calls this an adjustable camber arm... |
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05-22-2016, 06:18 AM | #51 |
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I solved my rear end sway issue with aftermarket toe arms, M3 RFSB, M3 guide rods, and diff lock down bracket designed by a forum member.
Car is tuned and delivers a lot of power. Also has a more agressive 3.46 ratio torsen LSD ...
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05-23-2016, 10:47 AM | #53 |
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So I will ask again?
Has anyone put a performance run flat on this car? I assure you this will nearly fix the issue without worrying about the suspension.
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05-23-2016, 02:34 PM | #54 |
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While I'd love for a less expensive option, I'm starting to wonder what the actual difference is between those with aftermarket toe (Manzo/RE/Megan) and m3 guide arms, and those with poly replacements in those locations. The arm swap option appears to perform better to me from reading here and there. Unfortunately , that's a terrible way to try to research setups. Would be better if there was someone who had done both. That's unlikely.
dcaron9999 how are your manzo toe arms holding up?
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05-23-2016, 04:07 PM | #55 | |
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05-23-2016, 04:25 PM | #56 |
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I am running he m3 arms, whiteline rsfb, and bimmerworld toe arms. My rear end was very stable With both b8/swift spec r or m3 lca and tc Kline da with 600 springs.
I have only tested the suspension on canyons though. I am planning to go to Buttonwillow raceway this weekend so will provide any additional feedback after driving on a track. |
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05-24-2016, 09:27 PM | #57 | |
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Thanks!
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05-25-2016, 06:39 AM | #59 |
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Has anyone done the black series solid race bushings? may be a bit rough but this is as solid as u can get
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05-25-2016, 07:29 PM | #60 |
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So many reasonable posts, and then you go and lay that egg.
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They do. Have been through that myself.
http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info...products_id=59 That's why these exist from them and many other vendors. Limit lateral slop but allow multi-axis movement to continue. Jack the control arm at its outermost point in the rear and you will see all of the arms moving slightly in all axes. |
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Yup, hard to beat sphericals. Multi-axis and no slop.
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