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      07-18-2012, 01:27 AM   #1
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I got M3 suspension bits installed recently and the specs on the alignment done afterwards don't look right to me.
There is a large amount of cross camber. It was explained that it would even out when I was in the drivers seat. Would 200lbs in the front right seat fix this? I didn't think compression changed camber on MacPherson struts?

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      07-18-2012, 01:41 AM   #2
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it's surprising they didn't just ask your weight and put that amount on the driver's seat O_o
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Camber error of 1 degree seems a really big misalignment. It doesn't seem right to me at all. I am not an expert, but I doubt that's going to be fixed by sitting in the drivers seat. Do you know if there is any record of the alignment numbers before the suspension work was done?
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      07-19-2012, 07:50 PM   #4
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Camber error of 1 degree seems a really big misalignment. It doesn't seem right to me at all. I am not an expert, but I doubt that's going to be fixed by sitting in the drivers seat. Do you know if there is any record of the alignment numbers before the suspension work was done?
Yeah doesn't look quite right but hoping some experts here can chime in.
If you can read the picture the final setting are

CAMBER
Front left: -1.45
Front right: -0.30
Rear Left: -1.49
Rear Right: -0.40

TOE
Front left: +0.06
Front right: +0.06
Rear Left: +0.06
Rear Right: +0.09
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      07-20-2012, 09:45 AM   #5
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I don't agree with the front camber difference as the specs on the cross camber is -0.50 to 0.50. As for the toe for performance you would want about 0 or slightly in the negative numbers for the front and for the rear the specs are 0.12 to 0.18 which on the highway equates to a little safer for doing quick lane changes to keep the rear in check. I had mine done yesterday and you can see the specs they went with. All they really wanted to know is it was an aggressive street setup. Although I'm not happy with the front camber settings as it should have been more.
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Yeah doesn't look quite right but hoping some experts here can chime in.
If you can read the picture the final setting are

CAMBER
Front left: -1.45
Front right: -0.30
Rear Left: -1.49
Rear Right: -0.40

TOE
Front left: +0.06
Front right: +0.06
Rear Left: +0.06
Rear Right: +0.09

that's a pretty sh!t alignment. have them fix the camber and recheck the other numbers after.
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      07-26-2012, 09:34 PM   #7
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that's a pretty sh!t alignment. have them fix the camber and recheck the other numbers after.
+1. The camber is off.
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I suspect their whole alignment rack is off. If you are at the stock ride height with m3 conrol arms (and the camber pin removed), I seem to recall the max negative camber on the 1-series is around 1.1 - 1.2 degrees. Negative camber of 1.5 seems a stretch. I would go elsewhere for a proper alignment.
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      07-27-2012, 12:52 PM   #9
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maybe the alignment tech forgot he was only wearing one shoe?

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I am installing Dinan camber plates and getting a new alignment done. Does anyone have recommendations of what numbers I should aim for? I do aim to track the car fairly regularly.
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      12-11-2012, 07:20 PM   #11
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As a follow up to this, I installed Dinan camber plates and got a new alignment done at a different shop, looks a lot more reasonable.

CAMBER
Front left: -2.28
Front right: -2.22
Rear Left: -1.2
Rear Right: -1.19

TOE
Front left: 0
Front right: 0
Rear Left: +0.5
Rear Right: +0.5

Caster
Left: +7.12
Right: +7.07

According to their alignment sheet the previous set up was pretty funky. It had massive amounts of toe in on the back and nothing was even left to right.
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