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      06-30-2013, 06:50 PM   #1
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Turner performance package for the 128i

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This looks interesting. I'm most curious about the ecu tune though. Because they say "We take the stock software and make adjustments for 91 octane (stock software is set around 87)"

The claimed 19hp and 17tq is impressive, as I did not think that was possible for $600 with our engines (n51/52). Does anyone have this in their car? Thoughts?

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For the money you'd be better off going with an intake manifold and a tune from evolve or another euro company. This seems like the same exact thing that the AA tune is.
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Intake is worthless, tune isn't one of the major ones unless they are using a canned AA tune.

Wouldn't spend money on it.
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      06-30-2013, 08:00 PM   #4
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this may come off as tarded but Im wondering if you can flash it back, granted I assume the AA and *as a fact* the EVOLVE tune would be better but for $600?
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      06-30-2013, 08:09 PM   #5
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this may come off as tarded but Im wondering if you can flash it back, granted I assume the AA and *as a fact* the EVOLVE tune would be better but for $600?
That AFE intake is over $300
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      06-30-2013, 08:45 PM   #6
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I understand that but I guess Im more concerned if 1) it could be flashed back to stock and 2) proof of this tune, for the price it does seem enticing however ill just stay optimistic in hopes its not another bms powerbox kind of deal
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      06-30-2013, 09:22 PM   #7
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turner is very legit. you can flash it back, but you would have to send your DME back to turner to do so...call Marco at turner and ask him for all the details, hes a good dude, always helps me out.

not so familiar with the non-turbo 1ers, but I respect the hell outta turner for their work. I would consider them like the baby sister of Dinan for tunes (Dinan lovers feel free to rip me for this).

Also, their customer service is legit.
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      07-01-2013, 04:56 AM   #8
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"We take the stock software and make adjustments for 91 octane (stock software is set around 87)"

Thanks
Just asking a question here and not going against anything.

If the stock software on a n51/n52 is set for 87 octane, than why does it say on the car and even in the owners manual minimum 91 octane?
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      07-01-2013, 06:52 AM   #9
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      07-01-2013, 09:05 AM   #10
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Just asking a question here and not going against anything.

If the stock software on a n51/n52 is set for 87 octane, than why does it say on the car and even in the owners manual minimum 91 octane?
....cosign....
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      07-01-2013, 10:59 AM   #11
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....cosign....
I don't know, that's why I'm really curious why they said this!
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this may come off as tarded but Im wondering if you can flash it back, granted I assume the AA and *as a fact* the EVOLVE tune would be better but for $600?
How is it "a fact" that evolve tune would be better? Still as yet to see a single dyno showing its superiority over other tunes?
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      07-02-2013, 02:02 AM   #13
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How is it "a fact" that evolve tune would be better? Still as yet to see a single dyno showing its superiority over other tunes?
'Better' is an expansive word.

For a start, AA and Evolve have devoted their time to this forum, building reputable relations.

How many people can contest to AA or Evolve? A lot.
Turner? I think the list is at like 3 now.
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'Better' is an expansive word.

For a start, AA and Evolve have devoted their time to this forum, building reputable relations.

How many people can contest to AA or Evolve? A lot.
Turner? I think the list is at like 3 now.
Sorry but your reply is just more fanboyism. Do you have any of these tunes? Have you had any independent dyno testing to back up the vendors claims? Or 1/4 mile or circuit improvements to offer as evidence?

The claims of some of the tools on this sub-forum are embarrassing. Nothing against the companies, just the fanboys.
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      07-02-2013, 04:36 AM   #15
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Sorry but your reply is just more fanboyism. Do you have any of these tunes? Have you had any independent dyno testing to back up the vendors claims? Or 1/4 mile or circuit improvements to offer as evidence?

The claims of some of the tools on this sub-forum are embarrassing. Nothing against the companies, just the fanboys.
Why don't you, ? There's dozens of threads on this in multiple N52 sub forums.

Can't fanboy over something I don't have.

Just enjoy the car and pick a tune that suits you.
There's plenty of information out there - if you don't trust it, pave your own way.

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      07-02-2013, 11:40 AM   #16
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If the stock software on a n51/n52 is set for 87 octane, than why does it say on the car and even in the owners manual minimum 91 octane?
Under "Fuel - specification" in my owners manual it says minimum octane for the 128i is 87 but the recommended octane is 91.
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Under "Fuel - specification" in my owners manual it says minimum octane for the 128i is 87 but the recommended octane is 91.
fair enough. I double checked my owner manual and my owners manual agrees with my gas cap stating a fuel minimum requirement of 91

It is on my 113 page under my Fuel Specifications sub header Required fuel. Than it goes on stating to make sure to use high-quality brands for fuel blah blah blah.



However, this brings in new light on the situation. Again not that I am doubting anyone or Turners description on the tune. I was just curious because I know one thing for sure, the type of fuel my car needs.
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evolve in action...

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      07-02-2013, 12:55 PM   #19
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and FYI there aren't "many" dynos for 128i's in general across this forum. But this is close enough of a vendor claim for me let alone they have been tried and true over the years
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The following is from the 2013 OM:

Recommended fuel grade
BMW recommends AKI 91.

Minimum fuel grade
BMW recommends AKI 89.

Maybe the OM requirement has changed over the years?
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      07-02-2013, 01:31 PM   #21
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My car is tuned for 93 I believe.

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Sorry but your reply is just more fanboyism. Do you have any of these tunes? Have you had any independent dyno testing to back up the vendors claims? Or 1/4 mile or circuit improvements to offer as evidence?

The claims of some of the tools on this sub-forum are embarrassing. Nothing against the companies, just the fanboys.
I've been there first hand for remote dyno tunning by Evolve of a variety of cars all in one go(E39 M5, E46 M3, E60 M5) and the results were excellent. I see no reason to think they would suddenly lose their touch with the E82. There is nothing wrong with being an enthusiast of a good company that is engaged with the community and delivers an unparalleled product.

I will happily dyno my car against anyone who wants to buy the Turner tune and AFE airbox combo.
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hey uhhhh st|g can you dyno your car anyways because I would like to see what kind of power the evolve tune and DISA manifold develops
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