Lowering Springs with m-sport shocks

NWillard77 · 03-02-2014, 09:09 AM

Those of you running lowering springs with m-sport shocks, how is the ride quality? Did you notice any improved handling with just the springs? Normally i know its recommended to do springs and shocks (or coilovers), but where the m-sport is already much lower than most cars mild lowering springs should work fine. Just curious if handling and ride suffers or improves? I plan to run just the H&R sport springs.

Fidiman · 03-02-2014, 10:21 AM

I have the Eibach Prokit springs and the handling has improved a lot

Not too much in term of lowering and the ride is more compfortable !

NWillard77 · 03-02-2014, 11:39 AM

perfect! im hoping the H&R's will lower it a bit more than the eibach's do, but glad to hear handling has improved!

Kgolf31 · 03-02-2014, 12:01 PM

Dampers are optimized to the spring that is matched with it.

With that being said, don't be surprised if you see a decrease in damping, and overall handling with lower springs if the rates are drastically different

Garabins · 03-02-2014, 02:55 PM

Your ride will be bouncy and increase in stiffness, you should definitely upgrade your dampers with the springs.

Fidiman · 03-02-2014, 03:48 PM

Yep, I know ride quality is better with dampers which match. For me it's just a temporary solution during the M3 chassis conversion (coils this year or in 2015) !

Cozy · 03-10-2014, 04:57 AM

Honestly, there is less role, more direct turn in and less floating about/greater stability BUT, it is stiffer. The springs work well with the M-Sport dampers but the M-Sport dampers are still mushy with way too much bounce.

I can't really say anything bad about the springs other than they highlight that the rest of the suspension is WEAK!

I know a guy who runs the above but with M3 rear subframe bushes and ARB's who absolutely loves it. I can't say he's wrong, it feels good but the M-Sport shocks needs some stiffer damping.

I'd say for the first 6mths you'll love them but after a while in the car you'll notice what needs changing and opt for coils

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NWillard77 · 03-12-2014, 08:17 PM

well, i dont plan on ever doing coils on this car unless i somehow get lucky and my car is a test car for a company developing a set. I am slowly retracting from modding cars. my first audi i went big turbo, full exhaust, suspension, engine build, wheels, etc and spent every bit of my paycheck on it, next car i did every bolt on possible from exhaust to engine mounts to suspension setup along with a tune without spending the big bucks on a turbo kit and build. This one....just a tune, slight drop, intake, and MAYBE wheels in a year or two unless i can find a nice set cheap on CL or something. Im just not into it as i used to be, just want to make the car "mine" and a little more fun to drive since i drive a LOT.

This car already handles sooo much better than any of my 3 audis did so im sure if the springs alone are an upgrade in handling i will like them! Worst thing that can happen is i call up tire rack and order a cup kit or just shocks.

Cozy · 03-13-2014, 02:30 AM

The shocks on this car aren't great and like I say, upset the surrounding bits when you shorten their rebound. Do it right first time and upgrade your shocks too as you'll probably love it forever that way.

bazil769 · 02-01-2015, 04:48 PM

Anyone tried Swift Spec R springs with the M-Sports? Pics anyone?

03-02-2014, 09:09 AM	#1
NWillard77 Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 258 Posts Drives: 2008 135i sparkling grey/red Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: North Shore, MA iTrader: (2)	Lowering Springs with m-sport shocks Those of you running lowering springs with m-sport shocks, how is the ride quality? Did you notice any improved handling with just the springs? Normally i know its recommended to do springs and shocks (or coilovers), but where the m-sport is already much lower than most cars mild lowering springs should work fine. Just curious if handling and ride suffers or improves? I plan to run just the H&R sport springs.
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Fidiman Captain 113 Rep 614 Posts Drives: BMW 120d e82 M Sportpaket Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: France iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 120d E82 [10.00]	I have the Eibach Prokit springs and the handling has improved a lot Not too much in term of lowering and the ride is more compfortable ! __________________ M Sport package, Stage 1, CDV, BMC airfilter, VMR vb3, ST XTA, BMW Performance stuff, M3 arms, E93 M3 anti-roll bars F and R, ... French community of 1 and 2 Series: One-Two-Bimmers
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NWillard77 Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 258 Posts Drives: 2008 135i sparkling grey/red Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: North Shore, MA iTrader: (2)	perfect! im hoping the H&R's will lower it a bit more than the eibach's do, but glad to hear handling has improved!
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Kgolf31 Brigadier General 459 Rep 4,531 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4MC, 2012 128i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ohio iTrader: (4)	Dampers are optimized to the spring that is matched with it. With that being said, don't be surprised if you see a decrease in damping, and overall handling with lower springs if the rates are drastically different
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Garabins Private 9 Rep 65 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Grand Rapids iTrader: (1)	Your ride will be bouncy and increase in stiffness, you should definitely upgrade your dampers with the springs. __________________ MKV GTI - Gt3071r/ 400Whp - Sold 2010 135i
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Fidiman Captain 113 Rep 614 Posts Drives: BMW 120d e82 M Sportpaket Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: France iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 120d E82 [10.00]	Yep, I know ride quality is better with dampers which match. For me it's just a temporary solution during the M3 chassis conversion (coils this year or in 2015) ! __________________ M Sport package, Stage 1, CDV, BMC airfilter, VMR vb3, ST XTA, BMW Performance stuff, M3 arms, E93 M3 anti-roll bars F and R, ... French community of 1 and 2 Series: One-Two-Bimmers
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03-10-2014, 04:57 AM	#7
Cozy Major 111 Rep 1,487 Posts Drives: E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Surrey, England iTrader: (0)	Honestly, there is less role, more direct turn in and less floating about/greater stability BUT, it is stiffer. The springs work well with the M-Sport dampers but the M-Sport dampers are still mushy with way too much bounce. I can't really say anything bad about the springs other than they highlight that the rest of the suspension is WEAK! I know a guy who runs the above but with M3 rear subframe bushes and ARB's who absolutely loves it. I can't say he's wrong, it feels good but the M-Sport shocks needs some stiffer damping. I'd say for the first 6mths you'll love them but after a while in the car you'll notice what needs changing and opt for coils .
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03-12-2014, 08:17 PM	#8
NWillard77 Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 258 Posts Drives: 2008 135i sparkling grey/red Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: North Shore, MA iTrader: (2)	well, i dont plan on ever doing coils on this car unless i somehow get lucky and my car is a test car for a company developing a set. I am slowly retracting from modding cars. my first audi i went big turbo, full exhaust, suspension, engine build, wheels, etc and spent every bit of my paycheck on it, next car i did every bolt on possible from exhaust to engine mounts to suspension setup along with a tune without spending the big bucks on a turbo kit and build. This one....just a tune, slight drop, intake, and MAYBE wheels in a year or two unless i can find a nice set cheap on CL or something. Im just not into it as i used to be, just want to make the car "mine" and a little more fun to drive since i drive a LOT. This car already handles sooo much better than any of my 3 audis did so im sure if the springs alone are an upgrade in handling i will like them! Worst thing that can happen is i call up tire rack and order a cup kit or just shocks.
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03-13-2014, 02:30 AM	#9
Cozy Major 111 Rep 1,487 Posts Drives: E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Surrey, England iTrader: (0)	The shocks on this car aren't great and like I say, upset the surrounding bits when you shorten their rebound. Do it right first time and upgrade your shocks too as you'll probably love it forever that way.
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02-01-2015, 04:48 PM	#10
bazil769 Lieutenant 58 Rep 525 Posts Drives: BMW 128I Convertible 02/09 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (1)	Anyone tried Swift Spec R springs with the M-Sports? Pics anyone?
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