BMW 1M Coupe Partially Unveiled at Oktoberfest! [INFO, VIDEO & PHOTOS]

Doggybags · 08-30-2010, 02:23 PM

I hope its a "hybrid" N54 with two twin scrolls and stronger internals.

I'd be down with that.

randomquickness · 08-30-2010, 02:29 PM

I don't think they are too concerned with internals strength as people have been tuning this engine for 4 years with minimal issues.

Doggybags · 08-30-2010, 02:38 PM

true true but that's aftermarket, just thinking of oem safety factors...

spellbmw · 08-30-2010, 03:04 PM

Man, I absolutely love my 2010 135i...but found myself thinking this morning, 'Hey, I could sell it and go with the M!" It's amazing how we're truly '1addicts!'

M3roar · 08-30-2010, 03:28 PM

i hate this teaser thing... Lemme see it so I can put my order in!

Boosted_N54 · 08-30-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dmboone25

I am willing to bet that this version of the N54 will NOT be very tuner friendly.

I would assume that BMW is making sure of that....

and i bet you it will be a tuner friendly car. and also it will make more power when its tuned then the 135i . tuner companys will always have a way,
they have to make money to...

BrokenVert · 08-30-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by formula M

Sorry, u are mistaken.. BMW doesn't care about backyard tuners.

agreed we got lucky with the N54 because BMW originally designed it as a 400hp motor and then retuned it for the street.

Atropos · 08-30-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by twenzel

Still blows my mind that people judge and base a whole car on its peak HP number.

Or 0-60 times (one of the most pointless numbers for a sports car ever) for that matter.

Boosted_N54 · 08-30-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by formula M

Sorry, u are mistaken.. BMW doesn't care about backyard tuners.

lol ok if thats what you think. so i guess dinan or jb or other tuners wont be able to have aftermarket perfrmance parts foe to 1M

i think we will have to sit and wait to see if it will be possible

FactorX81 · 08-30-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Da _Grk_Tuner

and i bet you it will be a tuner friendly car. and also it will make more power when its tuned then the 135i...

I see a lot of people saying this why would this be the case if it were the same motor? Are the turbos larger or different cam shafts? I would think it would be the same capability in the end if it were the same motor.

bryce · 08-30-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Itanius

An N54 with TWO twin-scroll turbos? Oh my...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doggybags

I hope its a "hybrid" N54 with two twin scrolls and stronger internals.

I'd be down with that.

2 twin scoll manifolds on an inline 6 engine is IMPOSSIBLE due to cylinder pairing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by formula M

Sorry, u are mistaken.. BMW doesn't care about backyard tuners.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

agreed we got lucky with the N54 because BMW originally designed it as a 400hp motor and then retuned it for the street.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmboone25

I am willing to bet that this version of the N54 will NOT be very tuner friendly.

I would assume that BMW is making sure of that....

^wrong. there's always a way to re-tune a car. piggy backs are almost impossible to prevent....bmw even tried on the n55 and there's a beta version of the juicebox and shiv has almost worked out the proceed. even if bmw somehow prevents piggy back tunes (very, very slim chance at that), re-flashes are a very viable option (GIAC, evotech, etc).

BrokenVert · 08-30-2010, 06:06 PM

^ I wasn't saying that people wouldn't tune it. I'm just saying that the N54 is a very well built powerplant because it was designed as such a high output motor.

I'm just worried about a repeat of what happened with foxbody mustangs. Were the car was designed for 230 hp and when pushed to around 300 hp the connecting rods would break

bryce · 08-30-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BrokenVert

^ I wasn't saying that people wouldn't tune it. I'm just saying that the N54 is a very well built powerplant because it was designed as such a high output motor.

I'm just worried about a repeat of what happened with foxbody mustangs. Were the car was designed for 230 hp and when pushed to around 300 hp the connecting rods would break

ok, that makes sense. there's zero reason to believe that the 1m engine won't be equally as strong as the n54, however, especially with a higher hp rating. bmw may even use the same crank, rods, pistons, etc., especially if it's based on the n54.

Itanius · 08-30-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bryce

2 twin scoll manifolds on an inline 6 engine is IMPOSSIBLE due to cylinder pairing.

Quit making so much sense!

03BeastCharmer · 08-30-2010, 08:06 PM

It's not a carbon Diffuser. Here is the full size unreduced version of the picture I took. It's just the flash reflecting off the metal heat shield.

mcacciola · 08-30-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Haywood

Seriously? Wow, you have a lot of reading to do!

I wasn't clear enough.

I meant to said that the marketing/product guys need to figure out better.
Still don't get it why would change the Letter/Number old time BMW M division branding trademark just because there is a previous M1.

The case of Z's are a good example of adjusting names based on new products and/or model evolution.

Z1, Z3, Z4, Z8, Z4 (again) and Z2 coming soon.
just IMO.....

mcacciola · 08-30-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Madozu

Because of this car ^^

I wasn't clear enough.

I meant to said that the marketing/product guys need to figure out better.
Still don't get it why would change the Letter/Number old time BMW M division branding trademark just because there is a previous M1.

The case of Z's are a good example of adjusting names based on new products and/or model evolution.

Z1, Z3, Z4, Z8, Z4 (again) and Z2 coming soon.
just IMO.....

bryce · 08-30-2010, 08:59 PM

^repetitive post is repetitive

M3roar · 08-30-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by formula M

Bro, u can clearly see the CF weave... r u sure you are talking about the same spot on the picture as we are...?

Dude I pointed the "CF" out originally and I dont even know anymore. I can see both arguments. But it does look the color and tight weave of CF. I just dont know for sure anymore. Im hoping its CF though.

sq86 · 08-30-2010, 11:39 PM

Its def CF because there is no way a reflection would wrap around like that.

I am inclined to think that this car has some upgrades on it like a performance package because its got a cf diffuser and csl wheels plus other possible things we don't see. I would imagine that this car would lots of things that would be available as options to a 135 owner through bmw performance, i.e. cf diffuser, cf mirrors, etc.

I have to say I am extremely excited about this car and it looks very promising. I am very inclined to trade my 328xi for this when it comes out. The only thing that would hold me back would be the price point. Anything over $57-58 will be a bit absurd because you could get a base m3 then.

BrokenVert · 08-31-2010, 12:20 AM

So I think the real question is why didn't an overly excited and overly intoxicated enthusiast run up to the car and rip off the cover?

Bluesummer · 08-31-2010, 01:53 AM

hello HPFP failure and limp mode

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BrokenVert Resident Kerbalnaut 477 Rep 10,703 Posts Drives: Topless Brute/Hybrid Boogaloo Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fahrvergnügen/NY iTrader: (0)	^ I wasn't saying that people wouldn't tune it. I'm just saying that the N54 is a very well built powerplant because it was designed as such a high output motor. I'm just worried about a repeat of what happened with foxbody mustangs. Were the car was designed for 230 hp and when pushed to around 300 hp the connecting rods would break __________________
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