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      07-15-2010, 09:28 PM   #67
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You are right. The hood has the provisions to accept all stock hardware. Double-Sided pieces SHOULD be installed without shocks though, as it's a lot of pressure and they are meant for a much heavier piece. We've had the car up to 140mph and drive thousands of miles on it, no issues with it.

If you wanted it painted and don't have anywhere to take it to get painted, we can paint it for you before shipping. However, we do suggest that you get it painted locally since there are color variations between cars sometimes. It's also better to get the hood professionally installed, since there are A LOT of different adjustments to get a hood to fit to the way you like it (even if you're replacing an OEM hood).

The extra volume of the M3 bulge will help get some hot air up and out, yes!

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K well where would you have it painted, how long for that, any kind of paint protection warranty with that and what extra would that cost me.

I mean I doubt theres a lotta diff variances of Deep sea blue. Pretty sure theres only one deep sea blue metallic thru BMW paint
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      07-15-2010, 09:31 PM   #68
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I know this is a small concern but is it safe at higher speeds? I would hate to have my hood fly off at speed.
Dude cmon, honestly I would trust this hood more than the Vorst..
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      07-16-2010, 12:06 AM   #69
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Yes but is it safe if I want to do a top speed run?
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Guys,

I know this is a small concern but is it safe at higher speeds? I would hate to have my hood fly off at speed.
I mean... if you're going over 140mph, then you have A LOT more to worry about. Things like tires, suspension, and come to mind lol...

In all seriousness, we test our products so that we know they are qualified for what 99.9% of our customers will use them for. We can't tell you what happens at 190+ mph because honestly, almost no one has gone that fast on this car. We DO NOT recommend anyone go that fast in ANY car, let alone a car not set-up for that sort of thing.

I can also tell you that if you wanted to do a top speed run, you'll want to tape your diffuser, hood, bumper, and wing down (all in stock form, btw) because the only E82 I know running upwards of 175 mph is the ASR car, and the stock hood was lifting up at that speed, the diffuser was coming off (also stock), etc. That's mainly due to the E82 only having a single hood latch, where it's M3 and 3 Series counterparts have twin latches.

For extreme race applications or extreme speed applications, we definitely recommend a custom hood-latch system, or something to that nature, as we do special wheels and tires, upgraded brakes, upgraded suspension, etc.

We have gotten up there a couple of times (with the hood and trunk on) and forget about the carbon stuff... the car itself just didn't feel safe at those speeds. We had to hit the brakes pretty hard at that speed and things got really interesting, REALLY quick lol... Let's just say Chris and the wall became really close friends for a second there lol...

For the other 99.9% of customers, you'll be good

BTW - make sure you don't do 190 coming down to MIA or we'll have to bail you out of the pen before you ever make it down here
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Yes but is it safe if I want to do a top speed run?
I would get the pins just to be on the safe side. I would be more concerned about crashing and having the carbon fiber splinter and shatter through your windscreen and decapitate you!
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      07-16-2010, 12:24 AM   #72
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K well where would you have it painted, how long for that, any kind of paint protection warranty with that and what extra would that cost me.

I mean I doubt theres a lotta diff variances of Deep sea blue. Pretty sure theres only one deep sea blue metallic thru BMW paint
There's a few places we use, depending on how much you would want to pay. Again, we don't really offer this as an option, but we have done it for customers in remote areas, customers that don't trust any local shops, etc.

We'd use European Collision, Countach, Pro-Body Collision and a couple of other shops, again depending on what we/the customer wants to pay. Only an extra 3-4 days to get that done. Really depends on the shop, but between $200-300 to paint a hood is about right.

Deep Sea Blue shouldn't be a problem. The issues are mainly with colors BMW has had for a long time. Alpine White (and other whites) for example, are a disaster to match sometimes!

Again, if you want this shipped to a local shop, we can ship it straight there

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      07-16-2010, 12:32 AM   #73
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I mean... if you're going over 140mph, then you have A LOT more to worry about. Things like tires, suspension, and come to mind lol...

In all seriousness, we test our products so that we know they are qualified for what 99.9% of our customers will use them for. We can't tell you what happens at 190+ mph because honestly, almost no one has gone that fast on this car. We DO NOT recommend anyone go that fast in ANY car, let alone a car not set-up for that sort of thing.

I can also tell you that if you wanted to do a top speed run, you'll want to tape your diffuser, hood, bumper, and wing down (all in stock form, btw) because the only E82 I know running upwards of 175 mph is the ASR car, and the stock hood was lifting up at that speed, the diffuser was coming off (also stock), etc. That's mainly due to the E82 only having a single hood latch, where it's M3 and 3 Series counterparts have twin latches.

For extreme race applications or extreme speed applications, we definitely recommend a custom hood-latch system, or something to that nature, as we do special wheels and tires, upgraded brakes, upgraded suspension, etc.

We have gotten up there a couple of times (with the hood and trunk on) and forget about the carbon stuff... the car itself just didn't feel safe at those speeds. We had to hit the brakes pretty hard at that speed and things got really interesting, REALLY quick lol... Let's just say Chris and the wall became really close friends for a second there lol...

For the other 99.9% of customers, you'll be good

BTW - make sure you don't do 190 coming down to MIA or we'll have to bail you out of the pen before you ever make it down here


I dont think they were referring to going 190mph, but some of us are able to take the E82 to its electronically limited top speed (135/155mph), ie: myself and my fellow German residents. I would be concerned about the hood holding up at 155mph, or even 100mph+, on the Autobahn.
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      07-16-2010, 01:28 AM   #74
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I dont think they were referring to going 190mph, but some of us are able to take the E82 to its electronically limited top speed (135/155mph), ie: myself and my fellow German residents. I would be concerned about the hood holding up at 155mph, or even 100mph+, on the Autobahn.
I don't foresee it as being any more of an issue than the stock hood could be. They mount the same way, re-use the stock mounting hardware, etc. Also, aside from the squared latch, the hood also has the release mechanism, which once locked helps keep it in place too.

We've road tested the hood and trunk for months with no issues at all. We've been to 140+ quite a few times and drive the car really hard in all sorts of different road and driving conditions - never had an issue, and their won't be. The only suggestions I could make to anyone that wants to take extra steps for extreme high-speed situations is to use aftermarket hood shocks (or none at all) to release any pressure they might build, and keep the vents open so that air just flows through the hood.

We've made every step to make this as OEM as possible, and when we post the underside pics, you'll see we kept the same lines and structural design as the OEM hood, so this is as close to stock as an aftermarket hood gets

A few race-cars will be running our hood and trunk, and those guys gutted all the shocks, latches, and are running our Race-Lite hood (yet to be released) which weighs in at almost nothing. They'll be running custom hood pins that they will be making themselves

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      07-16-2010, 09:41 AM   #76
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      07-16-2010, 10:04 AM   #77
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I have done this with the diffuser on and had zero issue, everything else was stock as well.

Yes suspension is some what of a concern (soon to be replaced). What kind of hood pins are available that are not ugly as sin?
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      07-16-2010, 10:40 AM   #78
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What kind of hood pins are available that are not ugly as sin?
Aerocatch are the cleanest looking IMO.
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      07-16-2010, 11:17 AM   #79
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I agree.

Icarbon, how would these be put on?
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      07-16-2010, 11:27 AM   #80
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Aerocatch are the cleanest looking IMO.
Those are the ones on the brracing car right?those look pretty good
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Order placed! I can't wait to get my trunk!!
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      07-16-2010, 12:18 PM   #82
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Hoods look good. Too bad I'm going to be out of the country for a while.
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      07-16-2010, 12:26 PM   #83
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seriously at any speed over 100 on normal roads i would be worry about my life more than my hood or whatever LOL.
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Mario. Make a CF ood that looks just like the stock one. I am not a big fan of the M3 hood look.
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Just thought about something. How will you guys deal with verts? We have a small shark fin on our trunk lid for sat nav and BMW assist.
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Just thought about something. How will you guys deal with verts? We have a small shark fin on our trunk lid for sat nav and BMW assist.
verts always had a different csl trunk. check out the e93 one.
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Guys,

I am parking cars till 1am to pay for this thing. Just thought you should know.
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Shit if all i had to do was park some cars all night to get a sweet hood...
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