[ace008]

I just came back from San Francisco BMW and my CA told me it was going to be around 44k for a 335i. What do you guys think? I thought it was going to be around 40k. He also said the 328i would be 39k. These were estimates.

UPDATE: I just recieved a quote from Danny, internet sales in SF for 1500 over euro invoice for each 335i. We are ordering 3 of these (Me and two other friends). Is this a good deal?

[RichReg]

Ehhhhhhhh.....could be?

[stressdoc]

Estimated what? Not base MSRP. What specifics were involved? Otherwise it's meaningless.

[Darrel Revok]

My dealer estimates $47k. Then again he may be just talking bs so when the price is lower I won't mind paying sticker.

Dealers know as much as you and I about pricing at this point, which is guess at best.

[MoreCowbell]

More details needed!!!

[chonko]

Originally Posted by ace008

I just came back from San Francisco BMW and my CA told me it was going to be around 44k for a 335i. What do you guys think? I thought it was going to be around 40k. He also said the 328i would be 39k. These were estimates.

If that is true then I guess BMW should not plan on selling that many cars (335i). Considering the market, and if North American line up is going to be 328i/335i- I very much doubt it. I strongly believe that the 335i sedan will be kept well under $40K- just my take.

[Jch330]

when i put down the deposit for my 328ci, my SA told me that he believed it would be aroun $36,000 base for the 328, he warned this was only an estimate but i think that only seems logical, to price the 328 above the 330 would not make sense, and they have to keep the 335 within range as it is the same car with a more powerful engine.

[BMW F22]

I hope that 335i was estimated with options. If it's $44k base, there's no one in hell im gonna get one. That's almost M3's pricing.

[foofighter]

well considering the new M3 will most likely go up in price...there has to be something to fill that price point.

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by foofighter

well considering the new M3 will most likely go up in price...there has to be something to fill that price point.

Yeah but $44k base??? that's ridiculous. that's $8k price increase over the 330i. I know we're all speculating but I am willing to bet that it's not gonna be $44k base. It will most likely be $42, or less.

[Dawg Nuts]

If it is 44k BMW can plan to lose alot of sales to Infiniti, Lexus, etc...

[foofighter]

it's all conjecture at this point right now and for all of us to sit and hypothesize about pricing is a mute point.

Let me ask everyone one this...I know the difference between the 325 and 330 is ~4k so extrapolate that? I dunno

[ace008]

Yeah, I dunno how reliable his sources are. I agree that he might just be boosting the price so when i get it for 42k, i won't feel so bad. Me and a couple of friends were thinking about doing euro delivery when it comes out. He said that when the car comes out, they will sell at MSRP for a while. Anyone know if I can get discounts off european delivery? We are planning to get 3 335is.

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by ace008

Yeah, I dunno how reliable his sources are. I agree that he might just be boosting the price so when i get it for 42k, i won't feel so bad. Me and a couple of friends were thinking about doing euro delivery when it comes out. He said that when the car comes out, they will sell at MSRP for a while. Anyone know if I can get discounts off european delivery? We are planning to get 3 335is.

dude if you're gonna do ED, maybe let me know when?? I think it'd be kinda cool if we all pick up our 335s at the same time. It's like an E90post meet, in MUNICH.

[arbitrage]

Originally Posted by ace008

Yeah, I dunno how reliable his sources are. I agree that he might just be boosting the price so when i get it for 42k, i won't feel so bad. Me and a couple of friends were thinking about doing euro delivery when it comes out. He said that when the car comes out, they will sell at MSRP for a while. Anyone know if I can get discounts off european delivery? We are planning to get 3 335is.

If you are planning to get 3 cars at once (even for different people) you should be able to really negotiate even though the 335 is going to be a hot seller. If you have more than one dealership around your area then start emailing and find out the best offer, then play that off the next dealer for a better offer. No need to be nice when buying cars especially if you and your 2 friends stick together. I'm sure with an e90 you could all get invoice but e92 who knows. Good luck

[ace008]

Originally Posted by BMWE90

dude if you're gonna do ED, maybe let me know when?? I think it'd be kinda cool if we all pick up our 335s at the same time. It's like an E90post meet, in MUNICH.

Yeah, that would kick ass. It'll be like a meet in europe with e92s. We will get it as soon is it is available for euro delivery. The same CA told us that it should be available when the car launchs in Sept. We dealt with Kevin Thomas at SF BMW.

[akhbhaat]

Originally Posted by foofighter

well considering the new M3 will most likely go up in price...there has to be something to fill that price point.

The M3 does not correlate (from a marketing standpoint) to the rest of the 3 series line. What BMW does with the M3 has no bearing on the other cars.

The "bridge model" crap is nonsense.

As for the 328i, it should cost significantly less than the current 330i, even in coupe form. Otherwise, there is absolutely no sense to using the 328i moniker.

[THE JEDI]

Aint no way I'd pay 44K for a base 335:mad: and I'm a BMW nut these greedy ass dealers are gonna ruin BMW , and BMW NA needs to get of there duffs and remember the reason people buy the car it has great performance at a great price and if they let it jump 8 grand:mad: STUPID ,but hey I have a feeling it won't even jump 3500 , and BMW will sell all they can LEXUS AND INFINITI and BENZ will all weep in the halls of what could have :rocks:

[Pretender]

Originally Posted by foofighter

it's all conjecture at this point right now and for all of us to sit and hypothesize about pricing is a mute point.

Let me ask everyone one this...I know the difference between the 325 and 330 is ~4k so extrapolate that? I dunno

Who said that? The 330 and 325 price difference is $5700 ($36.6 - $30.9), not ~$4000. So if you just make it an ideal situation that 335/330 price difference is the same as 330/325, the price on 335 will be $36.6k + $5.7k = $42.3k. Again that is an ideal situation. Now 335 will be expected more on that difference because it's a coupe which is usually ~$1.5K higher than the sedan with the same configuration. Therefore, $44k will be possible.
Some people expect the 335 price will be ~$40k which will be only ~$2.4k higher than the e46 330Ci for an extra 75HP + new body design + bunch of new stuffs added. That must be a joke.

[BMW F22]

$8k increase for 45 additional HP...BMW can kiss my ass good bye. Im going over to Lexus.

$41-42k yes, $44k- no (possible but no).

Does anyone else realize that the IS350 has a base of ~37k and 306hp?? BMW is obviously making the 335 to compete with them. So to charge $44k base for a 300 HP car (less HP here) is just plain...ignorant.

I have a feeling it might be lower than $41-42k base (maybe $39k something).

[Pretender]

Originally Posted by BMWE90

$8k increase for 45 additional HP...BMW can kiss my ass good bye. Im going over to Lexus.

$41-42k yes, $44k- no (possible but no).

Does anyone else realize that the IS350 has a base of ~37k and 306hp?? BMW is obviously making the 335 to compete with them. So to charge $44k base for a 300 HP car (less HP here) is just plain...ignorant.

I have a feeling it might be lower than $41-42k base (maybe $39k something).

Yeah, if you love HP, then go for Lancer Evo or Subaru WSX Sti. They're worth HP/dollar.
BTW, 335i is not competing with IS350. IS350 was even outsold by 330i since it's released already and the gap get bigger.

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by Pretender

Yeah, if you love HP, then go for Lancer Evo or Subaru WSX Sti. They're worth HP/dollar.
BTW, 335i is not competing with IS350. IS350 was even outsold by 330i since it's released already and the gap get bigger.

I know the 330i outsold the IS. To compete with the IS is to compete in the HP war. the IS is part of the competition. The C350 and G35 are also in the competition. HOw are you gonna tell me that BMW is not competing with the IS350?? Why would they make an even more powerful car when the 330i is already outselling the IS? Isnt it obvious that by putting more HP in their cars, BMW will attract more customers (i.e. those that think HP is a big factor)?

Im not saying that since im spending more on the BMW, I should get a ton more HP cause I can always buy an old car, put in $30k in mods and get it to produce 700hp and whoop a bunch of cars out there. So why wouldnt I pay $44k for a base car?? It's not just about the HP, it's about the value. It's true that BMW cars do handle better, but many consumers dont even look into that. THey care about VALUE!!

Look at how many people on this board think that $44k base is ridiculous (and they're ENTHUSiASTS!!). Many customers look at it this way: both the IS and the 335 have pretty much the same features, yet the 335i costs $8k more. If I were a first time BMW buyer, I would think twice about it after realizing that fact.


It's late and I cant formulate everything I want to say right now. However, if the 335i will have a base of $44k, I swear it will not sell anywhere close to what BMW have planned. Many customers will be going elsewhere, I know I would.