[mmeads]

Originally Posted by 0700700

do you have any idea how much the 911 carrera costs? base price is 88000 euro and for the 650ci is only 71000 euro. When you add all the extras to the carrera it goes up to 111400euro, which is m6 money.

And cayman is a g@y car for women, nothing like the 6 series

Funny, in most track tests the under-powered cayman is kicking the 911 in the butt (except for straight aways). I just read a good M-Trend article talking about that very thing. Boxter, yeah that's probably an older ladies car (so is the z4), but it's still a Porsche. I can't wait for a cayman s v. M Coupe comparo.

You probably think the Mazda MX5 is just for old ladies too...

[0700700]

Originally Posted by mmeads

Funny, in most track tests the under-powered cayman is kicking the 911 in the butt (except for straight aways). I just read a good M-Trend article talking about that very thing. Boxter, yeah that's probably an older ladies car (so is the z4), but it's still a Porsche. I can't wait for a cayman s v. M Coupe comparo.

You probably think the Mazda MX5 is just for old ladies too...

cayman's backside is g@@@@@@@@@@y, i said it. Like a 911 that has been smashed in. sorry not my taste. As for the 911, i like it with the aero cup kit.

otherwise give me an ariel atom which costs 30000$ and does 0-62mph in 3.7s and ill whip any porsche on track, even a turbo... but its still a car youd never show your mates.

And the new MX5 really doesnt have what made the old one a classic , so its for people who really cant get enough money for a proper sports car

[Tony]

For the money I would choose the 3 any day. The 645's interior doesn't look like it belongs in a $70,000+ car. Compare the quality of the 645’s interior to the 7 series and you would think that both cars are in different price ranges. The 645’s interior doesn’t seem to be of a higher quality than the E90. Which is sad because the 645 cost $30,000 more than the E90. The 645's performance also doesn't put it in the $70,000+ sports coupe department imo. If someone were giving both cars away and I had to choose one it would be the 645, which I would promptly sell. Instead of the 645 I would spend that money on a Porsche. Not only are the porches faster and have a nicer interior, they are also much more reliable than the BMW. The 6series doesn’t really do it for me. The 645 doesn’t offer $70,000+ performance or a $70,000 interior. Add some more HP (or lose weight) put some better quality materials inside of it and maybe I’ll be interested. The 645 is overrated, underpowered and overpriced IMO.

[JBOO]

All the cars mentioned above are great cars on their own, but really only the 911 truly compares to the 6 series. You may personally like other cars better, but that doesn't make it a realistic comparison. I know we like to start a lot of threads here at E90Post, but let's at least try to keep it in perspective.

[HoosBMW]

Originally Posted by aem

6>3 (no ifs or buts)

or ands

[Tony]

Originally Posted by 0700700

otherwise give me an ariel atom which costs 30000$ and does 0-62mph in 3.7s and ill whip any porsche on track, even a turbo... but its still a car youd never show your mates.

The Ariel Atom isn’t and everyday car. The Arial Atom offers no creature comforts and its suspension will beat you up like a prize fighter. The Atom is a narrow focused vehicle. Comparing that to a Porsche 911 is stupid IMO. There are plenty of cars that you can compare to the Ariel Atom to, the Porsche 911 isn’t one of them. You are comparing apples and Oranges.

[Dawg Nuts]

6 coupe...no question.

[shadye90]

Originally Posted by GregA

Z4 M Coupe

Oh hell yeah..The upcoming Z4-based M coupe is HOT!!!! But back to the subject 6 series Definitely!....Alpine White, Limo Tints, Red Inteior, 22" Lowenharts w/polished lip..

[BellasBmw]

The 6 is absolutly gorgeous. I would pick that over the e92 for sure

I just went on bmwusa.com and built my 6.. im looking at $74,295. Hmm.. yea... that 'll never happen...

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by 0700700

cayman's backside is g@@@@@@@@@@y, i said it. Like a 911 that has been smashed in. sorry not my taste. As for the 911, i like it with the aero cup kit.

otherwise give me an ariel atom which costs 30000$ and does 0-62mph in 3.7s and ill whip any porsche on track, even a turbo... but its still a car youd never show your mates.

And the new MX5 really doesnt have what made the old one a classic , so its for people who really cant get enough money for a proper sports car

Couldn't disagree more.
The Cayman is a fantastic looking car, and I haven't once thought
it's a "woman's" car. Curby fenders aren't a negative thing.

Also, the new Miata is a wonderful redo of the original. There is not reason to bash it based on price. It's pretty darn amazing that Mazda can build such a fantastic piece of driving machinery for the low amount of money they charge. That's applaudable not something to make rude comments about.
Most US Miata buyers buy them as fun cars and not as daily transport, so they have the money to buy the other more practical cars for daily transport and get the Miata for real fun, which it does deliver.

T

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by 0700700

And cayman is a g@y car for women, nothing like the 6 series

So, does that make it a lesbian if a woman buys it and a gay male if a guy buys it?

If a car is "gay", then how do we know? We would have to know it's original gender. Or, is the "cayman" a "gayman"?


T

[findtom]

Originally Posted by Broken1

Surely there is a HUGE price difference between the two cars?
This makes a thread like this a bit of a moot point.

If you can afford the bigger, nicer, more powerful car...why is there a question?

Sometimes people don't buy the most expensive car they can afford. If they're smart and satisfied with something less expensive they'll gladly save the money.

If it were free, I'd obviously take the 6. If I were paying I'd get the E92, unless money was really no object... but if that were the case I'd get the M5.

[carnuts3]

The 911 can only be compared to the 6 series on a price basis, not on a "ride" basis. The 911 is a sports car that should be compared to the likes of the Corvette, Viper, Farari, Jaguar, Austin-Martin, Meserati, etc. The 6 series compares better to the likes of sport coupes like the MB SL500 (both in price and type of car). In any case, assuming money wasn't an issue, to suggest that there is a realistic choice between buying a 3 series coupe or a 6 series is absurd, IMO.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by findtom

Sometimes people don't buy the most expensive car they can afford. If they're smart and satisfied with something less expensive they'll gladly save the money.

Ah, some intelligence being thrown in. This will only serve to confuse us!

T

[ward]

Originally Posted by 0700700

do you have any idea how much the 911 carrera costs? base price is 88000 euro and for the 650ci is only 71000 euro. When you add all the extras to the carrera it goes up to 111400euro, which is m6 money.

And cayman is a g@y car for women, nothing like the 6 series

in the states base price is the same for the 650 and the carrera

a 911 carrera S with all the options can hang in with an M6 just fine and outperforms it in the eyes of many

[Hula-Hula]

M3 E92 over 6-series coupé...
6-series coupé over regular E92
M6 over everything!

[irowharderthanyou]

Originally Posted by aem

6>3 (no ifs or buts)

ditto

[0700700]

Originally Posted by Tony

The 645 doesn’t offer $70,000+ performance or a $70,000 interior. Add some more HP (or lose weight) put some better quality materials inside of it and maybe I’ll be interested. The 645 is overrated, underpowered and overpriced IMO.

well i have a 7 series and am eventually looking at a 6 , and i must disagree with your statement. The quality of the interior built is excellent and the standard leather is good, of course not as good as teh club leather in my 7. But if you spec the merino leather in a 6, i dare say it will be even better. And i wonder if you can tell me of any COUPEs/GTs around 70K that will do 0-60 in 5.3s for an automatic? the porsche cayman is 0.5s slower, the carrera is slower, the carrera s offers the same perfoamance (all in auto form). If you go for manual, then yes they are quicker. Otherwise the SL500 costs mroe and is slower, the masserati costs more , and the audi R8 is not ready yet. Jaguar's XK is almost a second slower..

so which 70000$ gt offers mroe performance?


oh and by the way if you going to say the Corvette C6, then you are surely not forgetting the fact that it has the cheapest interior in the world, good for a 12000$ car

Originally Posted by RPM90

Couldn't disagree more.
The Cayman is a fantastic looking car, and I haven't once thought
it's a "woman's" car. Curby fenders aren't a negative thing.

the backside seems squashed to me, just like the boxster. I like the car, and it is a terrific track weapon but the 911 is just so much better looking

[0700700]

Originally Posted by ward

in the states base price is the same for the 650 and the carrera

a 911 carrera S with all the options can hang in with an M6 just fine and outperforms it in the eyes of many

well youre lucky. the difference here is around 24000$

[timzerofive]

6 series' back side is just gorgeous, especially that cascading look of the taillights. It's a no brainer, 6 series.

[sdorn]

Originally Posted by RPM90

Couldn't disagree more.
The Cayman is a fantastic looking car, and I haven't once thought
it's a "woman's" car. Curby fenders aren't a negative thing.

The Cayman looks awesome. I have seen a couple on the roads now and they always turn my head. I don't even bother looking at 911s anymore, but the Cayman is awesome. The articles I read said that the Cayman would be just as fast as the 911 if the transmission had a little lower 1st and 2nd gear. The article I read opined that Porsche must have intentionally put taller gears in the car to make sure it couldn't keep up with the 911.

[ward]

Originally Posted by 0700700

well i have a 7 series and am eventually looking at a 6 , and i must disagree with your statement. The quality of the interior built is excellent and the standard leather is good, of course not as good as teh club leather in my 7. But if you spec the merino leather in a 6, i dare say it will be even better. And i wonder if you can tell me of any COUPEs/GTs around 70K that will do 0-60 in 5.3s for an automatic? the porsche cayman is 0.5s slower, the carrera is slower, the carrera s offers the same perfoamance (all in auto form).

so which 70000$ gt offers mroe performance?

carrera (standard model, with auto) 0-60 in 5.2 sec
carrera S (auto) 0-60 in 5.0 sec
Cayman S (auto) 0-60 in 5.8 sec

that's what Porsche claims

keeping in mind there's a mag in the states that's timed a carrera S at 4.0 flat to 60 so these numbers are VERY pessimistic


your 0-60 number for the 650 is for the manual,
BMW claims 0-60 in 5.4 sec for the auto

the porsche 911 is faster, and that's before you even consider the superior handling. You must give BMW the nod on techy features like bluetooth, sat radio, aux input, idrive but the Porsche 911 outperforms the 6 in just about every way.