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      03-28-2011, 09:26 AM   #1
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Anyone know if running a Berk muffler delete here in Germany is legal? I want to improve the exhaust tone of my 135i but dont want to get a big Euro fine for this.
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      03-28-2011, 09:28 AM   #2
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[quote=darisc;9229801]Anyone know if running a Berk muffler delete here in Germany is legal? I want to improve the exhaust tone of my 135i but dont want to get a big Euro fine for this.
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      03-28-2011, 12:46 PM   #3
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I would say that sound level is probably where they would get you

all cars/bikes/trucks are reqired to be under a certain sound level...search the european posts...I remember elsabor67 posting something about the dbs that are legal. Not sure about the muffler delete part...I figure no one is really looking as long as the sound is good. Just my thoughts.
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      03-28-2011, 02:37 PM   #4
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The "MAGIC" number is 95db. That is the max loud an exhaust can be. The way its measured is an inspecor will stand behind the vehicle at about 2-3 feet away at a 45degree angle and have the db meter at the level of the exhaust. If it registers anything above that, you are too loud.

Berk Technology makes excellent products at great prices (I have the Street Exhaust Version), but I would suggest you to look around. Some exhausts do come with a 95db certificate guaranteeing that 95db level. I almost went the AFE route when a guy was selling the BT exhaust I have now.
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      03-30-2011, 07:22 AM   #5
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I dont know of the db on the Berk MD system, I think I will just put my stocker back on for inspection purpose only. How do you like the Berk sport? I would love to hear it in person
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      03-30-2011, 07:32 AM   #6
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Very mellow and quiet for my taste. but I have kittyless dp's and midpipes on the way
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      03-30-2011, 10:09 AM   #7
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Very very nice! What brand did you go with? when you get all installed I would love to hear it gurgle, burble and belch like a pissed off small block v8, you will have to post a vid
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Elsabor>where did you order your parts?
no european dealer for Berk or other exhaust?

thank's!
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      04-20-2011, 05:04 PM   #9
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Elsabor>where did you order your parts?
no european dealer for Berk or other exhaust?

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For the exhaust, I purchased mine through another forum member a while back and got it shipped from the U.S. If you search around in the "For Sale" you can find something good. I know there is a guy in Greece that is selling a full DP back exhaust, but don't remember if its a BT setup.

On the European dealer, I would also have to search and see
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      04-21-2011, 02:54 AM   #10
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Elsabor>where did you order your parts?
no european dealer for Berk or other exhaust?

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Why not just PM berktechnology and ask if they have a dealer (s) in the Euro region or see if they can ship to you direct etc...
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      04-21-2011, 03:27 AM   #11
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But 95db isnt everything! You Need it TV approach to get it Street legal... I am 100% sure that the Berk got not the TV Papers... So youre loosing your Abe of your Car and the insurance Company wont Pay anything ( in Case )

So, its Not easy to put some Import Stuff on your Car, at least in Germany... If you got som "rubbing Tyres" for example, you wont get a TV sign, without a TV sign your Car is Not Street legal...
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But 95db isnt everything! You Need it TV approach to get it Street legal... I am 100% sure that the Berk got not the TV Papers... So youre loosing your Abe of your Car and the insurance Company wont Pay anything ( in Case )

So, its Not easy to put some Import Stuff on your Car, at least in Germany... If you got som "rubbing Tyres" for example, you wont get a TV sign, without a TV sign your Car is Not Street legal...
It's a bit different for US Service Members assigned in Germany. We get our vehicles inspected through the base by German and "qualified" US personnel. We go through 2 guidelines which is the US motor vehicle regulation based on TUV guidelines. By what I was told, the 95db is the limit that they recognize as "loud enough" guidelines.

Our registrations do not need to be stamped by TUV due to the Status of Forces Agreement (SoFA), Someone please chime in if i'm wrong... but our vehicles can fail inspection by some issues that TUV does follow like the 10cm height clearance for example (biggest PITA when inspecting my E30 before)

Long story short: We don't get stamped by TUV, but our inspections are in a way guided by US and German/European guidelines.
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      04-21-2011, 06:23 AM   #13
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^thats what I understand it to be also.
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      04-21-2011, 03:08 PM   #14
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Another for you... You get the cheaper Cars, Parts ...  i Need a Greencard...

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But 95db isnt everything! You Need it TÜV approach to get it Street legal... I am 100% sure that the Berk got not the TÜV Papers... So youre loosing your Abe of your Car and the insurance Company wont Pay anything ( in Case )

So, its Not easy to put some Import Stuff on your Car, at least in Germany... If you got som "rubbing Tyres" for example, you wont get a TÜV sign, without a TÜV sign your Car is Not Street legal...
It's a bit different for US Service Members assigned in Germany. We get our vehicles inspected through the base by German and "qualified" US personnel. We go through 2 guidelines which is the US motor vehicle regulation based on TUV guidelines. By what I was told, the 95db is the limit that they recognize as "loud enough" guidelines.

Our registrations do not need to be stamped by TUV due to the Status of Forces Agreement (SoFA), Someone please chime in if i'm wrong... but our vehicles can fail inspection by some issues that TUV does follow like the 10cm height clearance for example (biggest PITA when inspecting my E30 before)

Long story short: We don't get stamped by TUV, but our inspections are in a way guided by US and German/European guidelines.
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