Brakes catching

jdlivxx · 02-05-2015, 02:53 PM

Having issues with my passenger front brakes. The wheel will spin and catch in the same spot every time. I took it in for service and bmw is telling me that an alignment will fix this. Am I wrong in thinking that an alignment has nothing to do with this? They quoted me $250 for an alignment which is absurd. What could me the issue.

Side note...these are the 3rd set of brakes and rotors (the first two were warped) in 35k miles.

Update:

I got the car back after an alignment. Steering wheel is now more off center than before, which the car is at the dealer to fix at the moment.

I also checked the brakes on both sides. The right side spins (6 or 7 rotations) freely before slowing to a stop. The right side (just replaced pad and rotor) is worse than before. You can feel, hear and see it catch. It will make 1 rotation before coming to an abrupt stop.

This is the 5th time (3rd for me in 6 months) the car has been at the dealer for warped rotors/brake issues. I am not sure what to do at this point. It is definitely a safety issue at this point.

New brakes and rotors have been put on at 14, 24, 33 and now 36k miles.

reisf · 02-06-2015, 09:38 PM

You could just take it to a tyre shop for a wheel alignment, they shouldn't be anywhere near as expensive as BMW dealer... And it won't do any harm anyway

sorry couldnt be more helpful

_Ryan_ · 02-07-2015, 12:59 AM

Can you remove the wheel and rotate the rotor by hand? What happens?

jdlivxx · 02-07-2015, 01:52 AM

I ended up paying $150 for the alignment. Drives straight now. When I spun the wheel it would make 1 turn and stop in the same spot. The rotor was warped. They replaced the rotor and pads.

It all worked out for now. I will monitor it weekly to make sure nothing is wrong. Hopefully it doesn't warp again, but I am not holding my breath.

_Ryan_ · 02-07-2015, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jdlivxx

I ended up paying $150 for the alignment. Drives straight now. When I spun the wheel it would make 1 turn and stop in the same spot. The rotor was warped. They replaced the rotor and pads.

It all worked out for now. I will monitor it weekly to make sure nothing is wrong. Hopefully it doesn't warp again, but I am not holding my breath.

Where/how do you drive?

jdlivxx · 02-07-2015, 11:18 AM

I haven't done any spirited driving. Just up and down the 101. Sherman oaks to downtown during rush hour. Then at 11pm. I was going a little faster then traffic, but nothing excessive. I still think that something else is the culprit.

They originally thought it was my driving, but apparently they can pull the driving data from the car.

cammula · 02-07-2015, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlivxx

Having issues with my passenger front brakes. The wheel will spin and catch in the same spot every time. I took it in for service and bmw is telling me that an alignment will fix this. Am I wrong in thinking that an alignment has nothing to do with this? They quoted me $250 for an alignment which is absurd. What could me the issue.

Side note...these are the 3rd set of brakes and rotors (the first two were warped) in 35k miles.

You go through a lot of warped rotors I think something else is going on. Maybe you should have someone look at the caliper and make sure its not gripping the rotor to hard or something I have no clue.

jdlivxx · 02-17-2015, 04:49 PM

Update:

I got the car back after an alignment. Steering wheel is now more off center than before, which the car is at the dealer to fix at the moment.

I also checked the brakes on both sides. The right side spins (6 or 7 rotations) freely before slowing to a stop. The right side (just replaced pad and rotor) is worse than before. You can feel, hear and see it catch. It will make 1 rotation before coming to an abrupt stop.

This is the 5th time (3rd for me in 6 months) the car has been at the dealer for warped rotors/brake issues. I am not sure what to do at this point. It is definitely a safety issue at this point.

New brakes and rotors have been put on at 14, 24, 33 and now 36k miles.

jdlivxx · 02-19-2015, 05:27 PM

Update day 4:

They are currently replacing the right front wheel bearing as well as complete front brakes. Hopefully this solves the issue.

Dackelone · 02-19-2015, 06:50 PM

It could be that your brake pedal "pretension" is slightly depressed. ie: when your not on the brake pedal, the brakes are being dragged somewhat. What about the LR wheel? Does that also spin less than the RR. I ask bc the brakes are set up in a diagonal setup. I would also look at the ABS block for any issues(codes).

jdlivxx · 02-20-2015, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

It could be that your brake pedal "pretension" is slightly depressed. ie: when your not on the brake pedal, the brakes are being dragged somewhat. What about the LR wheel? Does that also spin less than the RR. I ask bc the brakes are set up in a diagonal setup. I would also look at the ABS block for any issues(codes).

Thanks for the info. I will check that next when/if I get my car back. Hopefully it will be fixed, but in not holding my breath.

MightyMouseTech · 02-20-2015, 06:28 AM

Holy warped rotors!

Who installs your wheels? Sounds like they are not being torqued properly.

jdlivxx · 02-20-2015, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Holy warped rotors!

Who installs your wheels? Sounds like they are not being torqued properly.

It is supposedly the wheel bearings causing all the damage. Lugs were always torqued by hand, no air gun. I will know more sometime today after the field tech is done.

jdlivxx · 02-20-2015, 08:22 PM

They changed the right front wheel bearings, hubs and complete brake assembly. Hopefully it's fixed....

Dackelone · 02-20-2015, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlivxx

They changed the right front wheel bearings, hubs and complete brake assembly. Hopefully it's fixed....

Sounds like they loaded up the "warranty shotgun"!

What do they mean by "complete brake assembly" ? Rotor, pads brake caliper? Only one(side) brake caliper?

jdlivxx · 02-20-2015, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

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Originally Posted by jdlivxx

They changed the right front wheel bearings, hubs and complete brake assembly. Hopefully it's fixed....

Sounds like they loaded up the "warranty shotgun"!

What do they mean by "complete brake assembly" ? Rotor, pads brake caliper? Only one(side) brake caliper?

That's what the sa told me. I pick my car up tomorrow so I will know more than when I have the paperwork. I am also getting all of the service records on the car just to have to say my a$$ later.

New pads and rotors were put on both sides about 2000 miles ago. Should I worry about this and push for new on both sides?

Also I don't think that they seat the pads and rotors. They told me " no hard braking for 125 miles" last time they did not say anything. The time before that they told me 1k miles. Probably them covering their a$$.

MightyMouseTech · 02-21-2015, 07:54 AM

Ah OK. It is not actually the wheel bearing, you have a bent hub. You just have to replace the wheel bearing when you replace the hub.

jdlivxx · 02-21-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Ah OK. It is not actually the wheel bearing, you have a bent hub. You just have to replace the wheel bearing when you replace the hub.

Is there anything else I should be looking for considering the hub has probably be bent for 30k miles?

MightyMouseTech · 02-21-2015, 11:42 AM

Not really. Would put some extra stress on the wheel bearing, but that will be replaced. Any vibration you had in the steering wheel will also be eliminated.

jdlivxx · 02-21-2015, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Not really. Would put some extra stress on the wheel bearing, but that will be replaced. Any vibration you had in the steering wheel will also be eliminated.

Everything seems to be good. The car drives straight, no catching at the moment. The hub looked liked a vinyl that was left in the heat. Thanks for all the insight!!

jdlivxx · 02-21-2015, 05:40 PM

I attached the vehicle work history if anyone can take a look at it. Brake issues since 8k miles. They have put 6 sets of front brakes on the car.

jdlivxx · 02-21-2015, 05:41 PM

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jdlivxx Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2012 135i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: los angeles, ca iTrader: (1)	Brakes catching Having issues with my passenger front brakes. The wheel will spin and catch in the same spot every time. I took it in for service and bmw is telling me that an alignment will fix this. Am I wrong in thinking that an alignment has nothing to do with this? They quoted me $250 for an alignment which is absurd. What could me the issue. Side note...these are the 3rd set of brakes and rotors (the first two were warped) in 35k miles. *Update:* I got the car back after an alignment. Steering wheel is now more off center than before, which the car is at the dealer to fix at the moment. I also checked the brakes on both sides. The right side spins (6 or 7 rotations) freely before slowing to a stop. The right side (just replaced pad and rotor) is worse than before. You can feel, hear and see it catch. It will make 1 rotation before coming to an abrupt stop. This is the 5th time (3rd for me in 6 months) the car has been at the dealer for warped rotors/brake issues. I am not sure what to do at this point. It is definitely a safety issue at this point. New brakes and rotors have been put on at 14, 24, 33 and now 36k miles. Last edited by jdlivxx; 02-17-2015 at 03:05 PM..
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reisf Lieutenant 128 Rep 525 Posts Drives: LBB M2 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	You could just take it to a tyre shop for a wheel alignment, they shouldn't be anywhere near as expensive as BMW dealer... And it won't do any harm anyway sorry couldnt be more helpful
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_Ryan_ Captain 59 Rep 741 Posts Drives: E87 130i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Melbourne, AU iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 BMW 130i [5.24]	Can you remove the wheel and rotate the rotor by hand? What happens?
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jdlivxx Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2012 135i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: los angeles, ca iTrader: (1)	I ended up paying $150 for the alignment. Drives straight now. When I spun the wheel it would make 1 turn and stop in the same spot. The rotor was warped. They replaced the rotor and pads. It all worked out for now. I will monitor it weekly to make sure nothing is wrong. Hopefully it doesn't warp again, but I am not holding my breath.
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jdlivxx Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2012 135i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: los angeles, ca iTrader: (1)	I haven't done any spirited driving. Just up and down the 101. Sherman oaks to downtown during rush hour. Then at 11pm. I was going a little faster then traffic, but nothing excessive. I still think that something else is the culprit. They originally thought it was my driving, but apparently they can pull the driving data from the car.
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jdlivxx Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2012 135i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: los angeles, ca iTrader: (1)	*Update:* I got the car back after an alignment. Steering wheel is now more off center than before, which the car is at the dealer to fix at the moment. I also checked the brakes on both sides. The right side spins (6 or 7 rotations) freely before slowing to a stop. The right side (just replaced pad and rotor) is worse than before. You can feel, hear and see it catch. It will make 1 rotation before coming to an abrupt stop. This is the 5th time (3rd for me in 6 months) the car has been at the dealer for warped rotors/brake issues. I am not sure what to do at this point. It is definitely a safety issue at this point. New brakes and rotors have been put on at 14, 24, 33 and now 36k miles.
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jdlivxx Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2012 135i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: los angeles, ca iTrader: (1)	Update day 4: They are currently replacing the right front wheel bearing as well as complete front brakes. Hopefully this solves the issue.
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Dackelone European Editor 10539 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	It could be that your brake pedal "pretension" is slightly depressed. ie: when your not on the brake pedal, the brakes are being dragged somewhat. What about the LR wheel? Does that also spin less than the RR. I ask bc the brakes are set up in a diagonal setup. I would also look at the ABS block for any issues(codes). __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide
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MightyMouseTech Major General 4338 Rep 6,196 Posts Drives: 13 135i 6MT LeMans Blue MSport Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada iTrader: (0)	Holy warped rotors! Who installs your wheels? Sounds like they are not being torqued properly.
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jdlivxx Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2012 135i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: los angeles, ca iTrader: (1)	They changed the right front wheel bearings, hubs and complete brake assembly. Hopefully it's fixed....
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MightyMouseTech Major General 4338 Rep 6,196 Posts Drives: 13 135i 6MT LeMans Blue MSport Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada iTrader: (0)	Ah OK. It is not actually the wheel bearing, you have a bent hub. You just have to replace the wheel bearing when you replace the hub.
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MightyMouseTech Major General 4338 Rep 6,196 Posts Drives: 13 135i 6MT LeMans Blue MSport Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada iTrader: (0)	Not really. Would put some extra stress on the wheel bearing, but that will be replaced. Any vibration you had in the steering wheel will also be eliminated.
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jdlivxx Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2012 135i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: los angeles, ca iTrader: (1)	I attached the vehicle work history if anyone can take a look at it. Brake issues since 8k miles. They have put 6 sets of front brakes on the car.
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jdlivxx Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: 2012 135i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: los angeles, ca iTrader: (1)	Here is the history. Attached Images
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