Pics: New 330i, SG, ZSP, 15mm spacers, Zaino'd.

fletcher969 · 03-13-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by obLu

Is it the camera angle? It looks like it sits taller with more fender gap than a normal zsp. Or is that having the wheels pushed out further visually draws attention to the fender gap?

I just checked with other pics of stock 330i ZSP's, and from what I can tell, mine is identical. Of course without going out to the garage right now, and checking the gaps specifically, I can't be 100% sure, but using the non-scientific visual comparison of differing size pics, it seems ok to me!

BMW786 · 03-13-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fletcher969

I was considering tinting her, but in IL, NO TINT is allowed in the front driver and passenger windows, while ANY degree of tint is allowed in the rears. Subsequently, if I tint according to what's allowed, it ends up being a two-shaded tint job, and quite frankly, I'd rather leave it as-is instead. If they weren't so strict about it here, I'd go ahead with some 35%-55% all the way around, but they do in fact pull people over for tint in the front. Oh well...

Ppl. get pulled over here in Cali for tint all the time. Just get it done lightly, like 32% all around...that's what I did and it'll make a huge difference to the look of the car. I think they will be less inclined to pull you over as long as they can see you. Agreed though, I would leave it as is rather than just do the rear windows.

marcus330i · 03-14-2006, 02:30 AM

What's the cost and the purpose of spacers? Is it cosmetic only or is there a traction/balance thing? It's late and I'm too lazy to search. Great pics....can't wait for my SG 330...just 17 days!

davinet78 · 03-14-2006, 03:14 AM

beautiful car
enjoy

Paul330d · 03-14-2006, 04:44 AM

Did you try "before & after" with the spacers? Do they affect the ride comfort or handling in any way? Great looking car!

fletcher969 · 03-14-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by marcus330i

What's the cost and the purpose of spacers? Is it cosmetic only or is there a traction/balance thing? It's late and I'm too lazy to search. Great pics....can't wait for my SG 330...just 17 days!

I read plenty of threads concerning spacers, and the handling dynamics were discussed only briefly in a few. The general consensus, however, was minor adjustments to the wheel offsets wouldn't affect handling significantly, though I've heard it argued also that the roll center is lowered, and therefore, stability is improved, even if slightly. From a practical standpoint, I can tell no difference in the handling.

For me though, all things being equal, it was cosmetic, because the spacers push the wheels out, and make the rear end look beefier, and a bit more aggressive.

The cost is about $120 for a set of 2 spacers.

fletcher969 · 03-14-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul330d

Did you try "before & after" with the spacers? Do they affect the ride comfort or handling in any way? Great looking car!

Unfortunately, in my zeal to get the spacers installed, and because it started to rain just prior to doing so, I didn't take before/after pics. Just find some pics of stock rears, and compare to those with spacers from the same angle, and the difference will be obvious...especially those with 15mm-20mm spacers installed. Simply put, spacers provide for a beefier, more aggressive look, similar to what one sees with the M-series setups.

As for handling...no, I can feel no difference in handling whatsoever.

fletcher969 · 03-14-2006, 10:55 AM

Not the best comparison, but here's a side-by-side comparison of stock vs 15mm. If you use the horizontal line on the rear bumper as reference, you can see the stock tire intersects with the fender at or just below this line, whereas the 15mm setup intersects well above the horizontal line. The angles are slightly different, but if anything, it takes away some from the actual effect of the spacers when compared in real life. And for what it's worth, the real effect of the spacers is best seen when looking at the car from side angles or variations of same.

marcus330i · 03-14-2006, 11:38 AM

Cool...I can see the difference and I agree it looks better! Thanks for the info.....they are only installed on the rear then? And who was your supplier? And can a tire shop do the install? Thank you thank you.

LEDZEP · 03-14-2006, 12:09 PM

Congratulations!! Beautiful car!

fletcher969 · 03-14-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by marcus330i

Cool...I can see the difference and I agree it looks better! Thanks for the info.....they are only installed on the rear then? And who was your supplier? And can a tire shop do the install? Thank you thank you.

Yes, typically only installed on the rear. Most people get them from Rogue Engineering, where I got mine, or from H&R Springs (click on the "Products" link to start your search). RE will send lug bolts with theirs, but they aren't black, and won't match the front. I prefer the black bolt look, because of the contrast it provides the wheel, so I'm looking for longer lug bolts to replace the one's sent with the spacers. H&R doesn't send lug bolts with theirs...one has to order them separately (and yes, longer lug bolts are necessary!!!).

As for installation... If you can change a tire, you can install the spacers. They simply fit snug over the end of the axil hub. Literally takes about 5 minutes a wheel to install DIY. No need to pay somebody to do it for you.

BimmerSD · 04-02-2006, 09:50 PM

are spacers safe? i.e. does their presence make a difference somehow on the force/stress applied on the wheel or bolts?

sesegal99 · 03-25-2007, 06:50 PM

so the question is....where to get 15 mm spacers and black bolts?? Anyone Anyone?

DougLikesBMW · 03-25-2007, 07:16 PM

Nothing beats black leather and dark wood trim

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KL2DC · 03-25-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sesegal99

so the question is....where to get 15 mm spacers and black bolts?? Anyone Anyone?

Go with black bolt caps...

Saab has some nice off the shelf ones...
http://www.stateofnine.com/page/stat...ROD/LugNutCaps

Learnt of these from anrew330i

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...saab+bolt+caps

E86M · 03-25-2007, 07:24 PM

sweet car....maybe its time to put some H&R sport spring hehehe

bavarian19 · 03-25-2007, 07:37 PM

holy thread resurrection

KL2DC · 03-25-2007, 07:38 PM

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holy thread resurrection

u can say that again...

Fletches (the OP) was my shipmate all the way back in February 2006. He disappeared shortly after delivery. That reminds me, I want to email him up.

dme330i · 03-25-2007, 07:51 PM

Looks good!

kpcoupe · 03-25-2007, 08:05 PM

ROFL!!! I bought my montego blue 328i coupe at motorwerk just a while ago, u'll see me there every saturday getting it washed. nice car !

MWcoupe · 03-25-2007, 09:16 PM

very nice! congrats!........i got 15mm spacers i think they would look better with 18mm. i like the way 15mm looks, lucky i didnt go with the 12mm.

sesegal99 · 03-26-2007, 08:10 AM

So the spacers and bolts are around $120 and sabb bolt covers are $30. We're talkin 150 plus shipping for these? Anyone got some more pictures of the 15s installed?

03-14-2006, 02:30 AM	#25
marcus330i Lieutenant 42 Rep 524 Posts Drives: 2006 330i 6spd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Point Loma, California iTrader: (0)	What's the cost and the purpose of spacers? Is it cosmetic only or is there a traction/balance thing? It's late and I'm too lazy to search. Great pics....can't wait for my SG 330...just 17 days! __________________ Realtor Mobile: 6spd / Sport / Prem / Navi / ED 3-30-06 73 3.0s/84 528e/90 525i/97 M3 4dr/99 M3 Conv/2001 330i/2004 545i ED/2006 330i ED June 05 You're in control...is there anywhere you want to go ? -------------------------
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fletcher969 Dad: "Can't never did nothing" 8 Rep 319 Posts Drives: '96 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0)	Not the best comparison, but here's a side-by-side comparison of stock vs 15mm. If you use the horizontal line on the rear bumper as reference, you can see the stock tire intersects with the fender at or just below this line, whereas the 15mm setup intersects well above the horizontal line. The angles are slightly different, but if anything, it takes away some from the actual effect of the spacers when compared in real life. And for what it's worth, the real effect of the spacers is best seen when looking at the car from side angles or variations of same. Attached Images __________________ 2006 330i: SG/Blk-Blk-Burl/6MT/ZSP/Heated seats/Sat prep 01-26-2006: Ordered Vehicle 02-01-2006: Production Start 02-06-2006: Production End 02-09-2006: Arrived at POExit 02-13-2006: Transit - Don Juan 03-01-2006: Unloaded in Charleston 03-02-2006: VPC 03-06-2006: Arrived at dealership 03-08-2006: Took delivery
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marcus330i Lieutenant 42 Rep 524 Posts Drives: 2006 330i 6spd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Point Loma, California iTrader: (0)	Cool...I can see the difference and I agree it looks better! Thanks for the info.....they are only installed on the rear then? And who was your supplier? And can a tire shop do the install? Thank you thank you. __________________ Realtor Mobile: 6spd / Sport / Prem / Navi / ED 3-30-06 73 3.0s/84 528e/90 525i/97 M3 4dr/99 M3 Conv/2001 330i/2004 545i ED/2006 330i ED June 05 You're in control...is there anywhere you want to go ? -------------------------
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BimmerSD Enlisted Member 5 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 2006 330i/Prem/Nav/Sp/20%tint Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	are spacers safe? i.e. does their presence make a difference somehow on the force/stress applied on the wheel or bolts? __________________ 2006 330i/prem/sport/nav/manual/20%tint black stallion
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03-25-2007, 06:50 PM	#35
sesegal99 Captain 70 Rep 666 Posts Drives: 2009 328I Coupe Sport Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	so the question is....where to get 15 mm spacers and black bolts?? Anyone Anyone? __________________ 2009 328i Coupe Space Grey w/ Dakota LeatherSTEP, Sport Pkg. w Paddle Shifters, Prem. Pkg., Comfort Access, Grey Popler Trim, Heated Seats, Shadowline Trim, Xenon Adaptive Lights, GP Thunder Fogs, GP Thunder Angels, RE15mm Spacers, 35% Tint,OEM Alarm, Clear Corners, K&N, Strut Brace
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MWcoupe 24k GOLD 148 Rep 1,453 Posts Drives: Mineral White M4 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: BROOKLYN NY iTrader: (0)	very nice! congrats!........i got 15mm spacers i think they would look better with 18mm. i like the way 15mm looks, lucky i didnt go with the 12mm.
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03-26-2007, 08:10 AM	#44
sesegal99 Captain 70 Rep 666 Posts Drives: 2009 328I Coupe Sport Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	So the spacers and bolts are around $120 and sabb bolt covers are $30. We're talkin 150 plus shipping for these? Anyone got some more pictures of the 15s installed? __________________ 2009 328i Coupe Space Grey w/ Dakota LeatherSTEP, Sport Pkg. w Paddle Shifters, Prem. Pkg., Comfort Access, Grey Popler Trim, Heated Seats, Shadowline Trim, Xenon Adaptive Lights, GP Thunder Fogs, GP Thunder Angels, RE15mm Spacers, 35% Tint,OEM Alarm, Clear Corners, K&N, Strut Brace
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