50k kms and it leaves me on the side of the road

NOrrTH · 08-01-2013, 04:37 PM

Don't get me wrong, I love my 135i but...I'm used to driving Toyotas and having NOTHING going wrong. I've had this car about two months so far, it only has 50,000 kms on it, and the water pump goes and leaves me stranded on the side of the road. I've been driving for 34 years, had all makes and models of cars, and never, not once had a break down like this.

Obviously I've been lucky, but, is this a sign of things to come? Just last week I had to replace a HID bulb to the tune of $350. Aren't those things supposed to last a ridiculously long time? I would think a water pump should be good for a minimum of 100k miles.

Anyone else had water pump issues? The service rep says there are no service bulletons on them, nor are there any other "problem area issues" with the 1 Series I should be aware of.

tuco44 · 08-01-2013, 04:53 PM

You don't say what year your 135 is and that matters to comments like this.

Water pumps are a known issue, and if you search on here, you will find numerous comments. And, no, BMWs are not as daily-driver and ignore the maintenance as (say) a Toyota is. BUT, the drive is so much better in a BMW.

Just get the stuff fixed, and carry on.

Dackelone · 08-01-2013, 04:54 PM

Let me guess... your driving a 2008 or 2009 model? Yes, the water pumps fail - it is very common thing.

e8x electric waterpump failure poll...
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798195

The 135i is a fairly reliable car. Basically the only issues are the HPFP (high pressure fuel pumps) going bad, turbo/wastegate rattle(s), SW updates to patch fix this, injector and coil pack issues. Thats really about it. Knock on wood I have not had any issues with me 135i in almost 100K kms of driving. And mine is tuned to almost 400 HP.

NOrrTH · 08-01-2013, 05:01 PM

Ya, thanks guys, your right, it is an '09 :P And thanks for info on the other issues.

I know its not a Toyota and I didn't expect it to be one. I've had many of them. They're boring. I'm was just worried that the Bimmer might be closer to a Jag than a Toyota lol

Mine has that JB4, DCI, Remus exhaust. I run it on map one occasionally and its a BEAST! If I had of had this car before I built up my muscle car ('71 GTX), I would have done it.

drufe · 08-01-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NOrrTH

The service rep says there are no service bulletons on them, nor are there any other "problem area issues" with the 1 Series I should be aware of.

Every SA I've ever spoken to when I've had an issue about something says the exact same thing: "huh!...I've never heard of that problem before", like I've got some really bizarre and mysterious issue that no one else has ever had. Then I search the web (and this forum) to find out it's been well documented and there are lots of people complaining of the same thing (like my DCT throttle lag/hesitation during slow speeds and idle fluctuations when coming to a stop). I guess I can't blame them for not wanting to make it sound like a car is full of problems, but a little honesty would go a long way.

Dackelone · 08-01-2013, 05:25 PM

IF you hang out here... you can find out the answers to most problems/questions you might encounter with your 1er. Also feel free to check out the DIY and MAINTENANCE forums - they can be quite helpful.

Welcome to 1Addicts. And you ain't driving no Jag, but BMW's are not as reliable as say a Toyo, but then again our BMW's are way more fun to drive too.

Dack

1descending · 08-01-2013, 05:43 PM

Am I the only one here who thinks its a bit silly when people with a JB4, etc. complain about reliability? I'm not saying that's what caused your water pump to fail but adding 100 horsepower sure as hell isn't gonna improve reliability.

tuco44 · 08-01-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 1descending

Am I the only one here who thinks its a bit silly when people with a JB4, etc. complain about reliability? I'm not saying that's what caused your water pump to fail but adding 100 horsepower sure as hell isn't gonna improve reliability.

No, you're not the only one.

doublevanosrc · 08-01-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1descending

Am I the only one here who thinks its a bit silly when people with a JB4, etc. complain about reliability? I'm not saying that's what caused your water pump to fail but adding 100 horsepower sure as hell isn't gonna improve reliability.

I with ya as well. Seems like the OP didn't do his homework before buying.

drufe · 08-01-2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by doublevanosrc

I with ya as well. Seems like the OP didn't do his homework before buying.

Where did the OP say anything about his car being tuned? Dackelone mentions pushing 400 hp but the OP's car could be bone stock for all we know and well cared for (not that Dackelone's isn't).

tuco44 · 08-01-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by drufe

Where did the OP say anything about his car being tuned? Dackelone mentions pushing 400 hp but the OP's car could be bone stock for all we know and well cared for (not that Dackelone's isn't).

No, that's correct, the OP's car is likely not tuned. My comment was generic, not necessarily about the OP's car at all.

1descending · 08-01-2013, 07:44 PM

OP said in post #4 that he has a JB4 but regardless I've been seeing a lot of people with tuned cars complaining about reliability.

foghat · 08-01-2013, 08:10 PM

Not so easy to equate a tuned n54 with decreased reliability. In fact, these cars have proven to be very reliable when pushing silly amounts of hp.

The items that are often issues on these cars: hpfp, water pump, turbo/wastegate rattle, coils, injectors, vanos solenoids, fail regularly on non-tuned and tuned cars alike.

For sure there are certain maintenance type things you will have to do more often if you are tuned (plugs for one). A tune will often 'expose' parts on their way out earlier than you would see without a tune (plugs, coils and vanos solenoids come to mind). though not sure you can call that a reliability issue.

foghat · 08-01-2013, 08:14 PM

And to the OP. It sucks for sure. I just turned over 50,000 km myself. Water pumps go often, though you don't hear about many going at 30,000 miles. Hopefully I have better luck than you.

NOrrTH · 08-02-2013, 02:03 PM

Thanks for the welcome.

I bought my car 2nd hand from a dealer a few months ago with 49k kms. I've put on a couple of k with it already.

It came with a JB4 Stage 3, BMS DCI, Remus exhaust, Hotchkiss suspension upgrades and wicked looking wheels and tires already installed. The car looks showroom and I don't get the feeling it was beat on at any point in its short history. The original owner went between the 135i, 911 and an Audi A4 within a 4 month period and says he wishes he kept the 135.

The warranty history shows it had a couple of coils replaced so its ticking off the problem area boxes lol The water pump would have cost me $1,200 if the extended warranty had not of covered it.

gmartan · 08-02-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by drufe

Every SA I've ever spoken to when I've had an issue about something says the exact same thing: "huh!...I've never heard of that problem before", like I've got some really bizarre and mysterious issue that no one else has ever had. Then I search the web (and this forum) to find out it's been well documented and there are lots of people complaining of the same thing (like my DCT throttle lag/hesitation during slow speeds and idle fluctuations when coming to a stop). I guess I can't blame them for not wanting to make it sound like a car is full of problems, but a little honesty would go a long way.

Same experience. Same year. Same issues with throttle lag and idle fluctuations. First dealer had it multiple times for multiple days but fixed nothing. Second dealer is taking this more seriously and has had it for a week so far. No news yet. We'll see where that goes.

drufe · 08-02-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gmartan

Same experience. Same year. Same issues with throttle lag and idle fluctuations. First dealer had it multiple times for multiple days but fixed nothing. Second dealer is taking this more seriously and has had it for a week so far. No news yet. We'll see where that goes.

Please let me know how it goes and if they solve the issues and what the resolution was. I've had mine in several times as well and had the DME software updated a couple times to no avail. Frustrating as hell because once the car is moving in 1st, it's a beast and a dream to drive.

drufe · 08-02-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gmartan

Same experience. Same year. Same issues with throttle lag and idle fluctuations. First dealer had it multiple times for multiple days but fixed nothing. Second dealer is taking this more seriously and has had it for a week so far. No news yet. We'll see where that goes.

BTW, this SIB was posted by another member in a different thread and I was going to take it in on my next visit. It mentions stalling which I've only had happen twice in 2 years but it also includes idle fluctuations in the problem description so I figured it might be worth a shot.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/151944423/...T-Stalling-TSB

kits135i · 08-02-2013, 05:11 PM

My water pump went at 20k miles. On the side of the road for 3 hours waiting for a tow... It happens.... I still don't hate my car.

08-01-2013, 04:37 PM	#1
NOrrTH New Member 2 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i M Sport Join Date: May 2013 Location: Nanaimo, BC iTrader: (0)	50k kms and it leaves me on the side of the road Don't get me wrong, I love my 135i but...I'm used to driving Toyotas and having NOTHING going wrong. I've had this car about two months so far, it only has 50,000 kms on it, and the water pump goes and leaves me stranded on the side of the road. I've been driving for 34 years, had all makes and models of cars, and never, not once had a break down like this. Obviously I've been lucky, but, is this a sign of things to come? Just last week I had to replace a HID bulb to the tune of $350. Aren't those things supposed to last a ridiculously long time? I would think a water pump should be good for a minimum of 100k miles. Anyone else had water pump issues? The service rep says there are no service bulletons on them, nor are there any other "problem area issues" with the 1 Series I should be aware of.
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tuco44 Colonel 644 Rep 2,294 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive M Perf Edtn Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Western Canada iTrader: (0)	You don't say what year your 135 is and that matters to comments like this. Water pumps are a known issue, and if you search on here, you will find numerous comments. And, no, BMWs are not as daily-driver and ignore the maintenance as (say) a Toyota is. BUT, the drive is so much better in a BMW. Just get the stuff fixed, and carry on. __________________ 2018 340i xDrive M Perf Edtn Sunset Orange Previous BMWs - 19 others since 1971.
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Dackelone European Editor 10532 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	Let me guess... your driving a 2008 or 2009 model? Yes, the water pumps fail - it is very common thing. e8x electric waterpump failure poll... http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798195 The 135i is a fairly reliable car. Basically the only issues are the HPFP (high pressure fuel pumps) going bad, turbo/wastegate rattle(s), SW updates to patch fix this, injector and coil pack issues. Thats really about it. Knock on wood I have not had any issues with me 135i in almost 100K kms of driving. And mine is tuned to almost 400 HP. __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide
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Dackelone European Editor 10532 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	IF you hang out here... you can find out the answers to most problems/questions you might encounter with your 1er. Also feel free to check out the DIY and MAINTENANCE forums - they can be quite helpful. Welcome to 1Addicts. And you ain't driving no Jag, but BMW's are not as reliable as say a Toyo, but then again our BMW's are way more fun to drive too. Dack __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide
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1descending Private 4 Rep 79 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Am I the only one here who thinks its a bit silly when people with a JB4, etc. complain about reliability? I'm not saying that's what caused your water pump to fail but adding 100 horsepower sure as hell isn't gonna improve reliability.
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NOrrTH New Member 2 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i M Sport Join Date: May 2013 Location: Nanaimo, BC iTrader: (0)	Ya, thanks guys, your right, it is an '09 :P And thanks for info on the other issues. I know its not a Toyota and I didn't expect it to be one. I've had many of them. They're boring. I'm was just worried that the Bimmer might be closer to a Jag than a Toyota lol Mine has that JB4, DCI, Remus exhaust. I run it on map one occasionally and its a BEAST! If I had of had this car before I built up my muscle car ('71 GTX), I would have done it.
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1descending Private 4 Rep 79 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	OP said in post #4 that he has a JB4 but regardless I've been seeing a lot of people with tuned cars complaining about reliability.
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foghat Captain 59 Rep 913 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Great White North iTrader: (1)	Not so easy to equate a tuned n54 with decreased reliability. In fact, these cars have proven to be very reliable when pushing silly amounts of hp. The items that are often issues on these cars: hpfp, water pump, turbo/wastegate rattle, coils, injectors, vanos solenoids, fail regularly on non-tuned and tuned cars alike. For sure there are certain maintenance type things you will have to do more often if you are tuned (plugs for one). A tune will often 'expose' parts on their way out earlier than you would see without a tune (plugs, coils and vanos solenoids come to mind). though not sure you can call that a reliability issue.
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foghat Captain 59 Rep 913 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Great White North iTrader: (1)	And to the OP. It sucks for sure. I just turned over 50,000 km myself. Water pumps go often, though you don't hear about many going at 30,000 miles. Hopefully I have better luck than you.
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NOrrTH New Member 2 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i M Sport Join Date: May 2013 Location: Nanaimo, BC iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the welcome. I bought my car 2nd hand from a dealer a few months ago with 49k kms. I've put on a couple of k with it already. It came with a JB4 Stage 3, BMS DCI, Remus exhaust, Hotchkiss suspension upgrades and wicked looking wheels and tires already installed. The car looks showroom and I don't get the feeling it was beat on at any point in its short history. The original owner went between the 135i, 911 and an Audi A4 within a 4 month period and says he wishes he kept the 135. The warranty history shows it had a couple of coils replaced so its ticking off the problem area boxes lol The water pump would have cost me $1,200 if the extended warranty had not of covered it.
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kits135i Private First Class 9 Rep 145 Posts Drives: Coming Soon Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	My water pump went at 20k miles. On the side of the road for 3 hours waiting for a tow... It happens.... I still don't hate my car.
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