135i Evolve remap done today

[esscolab]

I've seen other graphs and this one looks like complete power loss or something, no gradual slowdown. Perhaps it's just the way it's plotted.

[evolve]

[quote=clived;274040]

Originally Posted by esscolab

That's what happens when you take your foot off the accelerator! You may have noticed a similar effect on the road ;-)

There is no point trying to bounce off the limiter on the dyno - once you're past peak power, what's the point?

Correct - the line dropping off is simply coming off the power and stopping the run early.

I'm sure Clive would have mentioned if the power suddenly dropped off at just under 6.5k RPM!

[evolve]

Originally Posted by moff

Quick question... what's the estimated at the wheel power of the SSTT / Superchips - I thought it was 350bhp?

Is the Evolve remap completely undetectable?

Superchips quote flywheel figures in the UK. Their website claims 343 BHP. Their graph starts at 305 BHP as a baseline figure which is clearly at the fly.

Any remap is detectable should BMW want to find it.

We remap many new BMW's (x35d's, x35i's, 123d's etc) and none of our customers have had any issues with taking the car in to the dealer for servicing/updates.

[clived]

Originally Posted by esscolab

I've seen other graphs and this one looks like complete power loss or something, no gradual slowdown. Perhaps it's just the way it's plotted.

I can confirm that, somewhat obviously, the engine does not cut out at 6.5k or whatever the exact figure is... I think you're trying to see too much here.

[FazerBoy]

Hiya,

I've been thinking about having a remap done but a a little concerned about the insurance implications.

What is the general feeling about informing one's insurance company about this?

Cheers

Jack

[clived]

*My* view is either you want to commit fraud and leave yourself open to having your insurance invalidated, or you don't. My premium has increased a litte, but it's still good value for the performance I now have.

[FazerBoy]

Agreed. So your insurers didn't have a problem with it?

[esscolab]

I had to inform my broker who said my current insurer would not cover the mod. Eventually they came up with another insurer who would. I now pay about £80.00 a year more which isn't bad at all.

[moff]

Many insurers simply will not cover.

But some do and the general consensus is that your premium is likely to increase by the the same percentage as the power increase - not sure how they prove it without a rolling road! But, they are likely to use the vendor's figures.

[clived]

My car history is fairly modified (450bhp RS4, 500bhp Audi TT, remapped 535d etc.) so I do work with a very sympathetic and helpful broker, but the short answer is that there are plenty of insurers who are fine with mods.

[esscolab]

Fazerboy,

Check out gocompare.com, I ran a quick quote and got back 9 out of 20 insurers who would cover a modified car.

[esscolab]

Surprise surprise, P-torque have dropped their pricing now to £600....

[pavelitto]

What about fuel consumption? did it increase after remap?

[clived]

Originally Posted by pavelitto

What about fuel consumption? did it increase after remap?

Probably. Who cares ;-) I didn't buy a 135i to worry about mpg (although it is a lot more economical than the car it replaces, which means I can now get to and from work twice on a tank, rather than 1 1/2 times, which I do like!).

[Z4Mr]

I note that the RWHP stock from the graph on this thread is c. 250. Surprising given all the US rags seemed to get 275-300 rwhp out of the 335i on the dyno. It's obviously the same motor in the 135i as in the 335i, so what gives guys?

[MattD]

Basically, in the US they tend to use "glory" Dyno Jet dynos, which give higher readings than Dyno Dynamics etc., which are probably more commonly used over here. Although I'm sure you can still fiddle them to read whatever you want basically

[esscolab]

Originally Posted by clived

Following the general lack of interest in my 135i remap group buy, I thought I'd pop over to see Evolve today as they are only twenty minutes from me and frankly I was bored of waiting for more people to get interested! Of course, the inevitable happened and I came away with a remapped car :biggrin:



I'll let the graph speak for itself in terms of the numbers other than to say green is "before" and red is "after" With the remap, the car feels absolutely great. Transformed is the wrong word in a way, because it retains all the driveability of the car as it was stock - there is just more go, a lot more go in fact, in any gear, at any rpm. Midrange pull is very entertaining, a thoughtful right foot is absolutely needed in 1st and 2nd to avoid wheelspin and at <cough> higher speeds the car is transformed. I imagine that pulling from say 90 to 120 in 6th it would probably feel like a completely different car :wink:

The (very friendly and knowledgeable) guys at Evolve reckon this might be the first MSD81 ECU'd car to have an ODB remap in the country....

We discussed 1addicts whilst I was there and the subject of a forum discount (I've abandoned group buys - too much like hard work!). Evolve are offering 1addicts members the 135i remap for £599 inc VAT, with before and after dyno runs if requested for an additional £50. If you want to contact Evolve they are on 0870 0850 111 or info@evolveyourcar.com.

Once I've had a chance to do some more driving I'll post some more thoughts - 130 mile round trip to the office tomorrow should be fun though!

Clived, going to get mine done shortly, taking out the Superchip in the process. How is the car performing after the remap ?

[imported_SeanB]

That graph looks great, am going to be in the market for a remap soon. Can I just ask why the power and torque lines don't cross at 5252RPM like they should?

[mad chemist]

Originally Posted by SeanB

That graph looks great, am going to be in the market for a remap soon. Can I just ask why the power and torque lines don't cross at 5252RPM like they should?

Welcome to 1addicts SeanB,

The SSTT route will give you very noticeable improvement in power and torque across the whole rev range, but you just won't get quite the top-end pulling power of the Evolve re-map. That said, it's a lot easier to remove come service time.

Also, I believe the graph intersect isn't at 5,252 rpm as the bhp & lb ft Y-axes are not on the same scale. If they were they would overlap at 5,252 rpm.

Mad.

[esscolab]

Tomorrow is the big day when I get the ECU done at Evolve. The last time I had an ECU mod it was on a Vectra VXR and Regal Autosports managed to blow up the ECU. They gave me a courtesy car for 2 weeks while a replacement ECU was shipped from Opel in Germany.
I was a bit dissapointed to say the least as I expected to be driving the 300Bhp and 400Nm torque car on the way home, but had to settle for a rental 1.3 For Ka ;(


As you can imagine, I am kind of anxious about this...

[esscolab]

First Superchip with AFE


Seconds Evolve remap with AFE

[mad chemist]

Esscolb,

Pretty impressive results for both Superchips and Evolve.

Looks like the Evolve map has a fuller torque curve, but I'm still really impressed with the SSTT for the money.

Mad.