2009 WRX

lavaletta · 04-14-2009, 11:00 PM

I just don't get this.

The 2009 WRX developes 195 kw and 343 Nm. The torque curves show peak torque at around 4000rpm.

So how is that the 0-100 times are being cited as 5.3 secs, the same as the 135i!!

Even allowing for AWD, those energy figures just don't make any sense to me.

I admit my frustation with this is probably a product of my perennial war with the doof-doof crowd!

RadiuM · 04-14-2009, 11:16 PM

Going by all the American road tests, a time of 4.8 is normal.

I think they have under stated the time and power of the 135i. Probably so it doesn't show up the M3 in straight line performance which is probably what most people go on.

lavaletta · 04-15-2009, 12:50 AM

Even allowing for BMW's shyness about the 135, the performance figures quoted for the WRX seem pretty extraordinary. For example, the 130i is 195kw also, yet the quoted time for 0-100 is 6.1 secs!!!

aus135i · 04-15-2009, 01:10 AM

fact 135i > WRX... u mean the STI right? the normal rax does 5.3(srry no longer follow jap cars, expect for the king)

TimMc · 04-15-2009, 01:21 AM

AWD can really get you off the line quick...

kingtut1970 · 04-15-2009, 01:42 AM

Well if i line up against one at the lights Im gonna see if it can kiss my dust LOL ..so far i have not had any issues gigling at that.

takahashi · 04-15-2009, 02:00 AM

Gear ratio? Final drive?

Breville · 04-15-2009, 06:31 AM

Don't underestimate 4x4 drive. Also, I bet its heaps lighter than a 135.

Alext · 04-15-2009, 06:35 AM

I love armchair racing...135i is slightly heavier than an 09 WRX...but the extra 30kw would make up for that no problem...

qship · 04-15-2009, 06:40 AM

Traction is action. I traded an Sti for my 135. In an all out drag the sti will launch in a way the 135 could only dream about. However, look at the terminal speed over say a 1/4 mile. The 135 will be travelling quicker and will get to 160kph about a second quicker/

bobbynoway · 04-15-2009, 04:18 PM

Maybe they did the test with tank almost empty, red line clutch dumps, spare wheel taken out, on a slighty angled down road, with 100 kmph wind assistance, cold air temps, 100+ octane fuel to get those times.

I have driven evos and previous gen wrx and for daily driving they never felt as fast as they are claimed, too laggy. You have to abuse them to get going, which I dont like to do.

Breville · 04-15-2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbynoway

Maybe they did the test with tank almost empty, red line clutch dumps, spare wheel taken out, on a slighty angled down road, with 100 kmph wind assistance, cold air temps, 100+ octane fuel to get those times.

I think you could be right!!!

Zuzu · 04-15-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbynoway

Maybe they did the test with tank almost empty, red line clutch dumps, spare wheel taken out, on a slighty angled down road, with 100 kmph wind assistance, cold air temps, 100+ octane fuel to get those times.

PLUS, you forgot being towed behind a 135...

MikeVictor · 04-15-2009, 08:50 PM

Price to punch ratio it's hard to beat a WRX, which is why I bought one a few years ago.

When I had some decent money to throw down, I bought the 135 and have never looked back since (and I loved that WRX).

minigolf · 04-20-2009, 07:47 AM

How much does an 09 Rex weigh?

sparoz · 04-20-2009, 10:37 AM

spec R - 1505 kg, Peak power = 221kw, 407@4000.

qship · 04-20-2009, 10:17 PM

That is the weight of an Sti. The WRX is marginally lighter. For all intents, the WRX and 135 weigh within a few kgs of each other. The difference is that for the same weight Subaru add a 4wd system and 2 extra doors.

sparoz · 04-21-2009, 11:16 AM

As usual, I don't read posts properly...

04-14-2009, 11:00 PM	#1
lavaletta Private First Class 2 Rep 187 Posts Drives: 04 3.0i Z4; 09 135i; VO 1M Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	2009 WRX I just don't get this. The 2009 WRX developes 195 kw and 343 Nm. The torque curves show peak torque at around 4000rpm. So how is that the 0-100 times are being cited as 5.3 secs, the same as the 135i!! Even allowing for AWD, those energy figures just don't make any sense to me. I admit my frustation with this is probably a product of my perennial war with the doof-doof crowd!
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RadiuM Captain 38 Rep 839 Posts Drives: 135i, 97 GTR VSpec Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: perth iTrader: (1)	Going by all the American road tests, a time of 4.8 is normal. I think they have under stated the time and power of the 135i. Probably so it doesn't show up the M3 in straight line performance which is probably what most people go on. __________________ '09 BMW 135i, Lemans Blue '97 Nissan Skyline R33 Series II GTR V-Spec
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lavaletta Private First Class 2 Rep 187 Posts Drives: 04 3.0i Z4; 09 135i; VO 1M Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	Even allowing for BMW's shyness about the 135, the performance figures quoted for the WRX seem pretty extraordinary. For example, the 130i is 195kw also, yet the quoted time for 0-100 is 6.1 secs!!!
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aus135i Captain 27 Rep 828 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SYD iTrader: (0)	fact 135i > WRX... u mean the STI right? the normal rax does 5.3(srry no longer follow jap cars, expect for the king)
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TimMc Lieutenant Colonel 44 Rep 1,883 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia iTrader: (0)	AWD can really get you off the line quick... __________________ Driving - Manual E90 M3 (Melbourne Red/Black). Riding - BMW R1200RS Sport.
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kingtut1970 Private 0 Rep 77 Posts Drives: BMW 135i Titan Silver Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Well if i line up against one at the lights Im gonna see if it can kiss my dust LOL ..so far i have not had any issues gigling at that.
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Breville Scum in the sun 30 Rep 938 Posts Drives: 135i Coupe TiAg Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Syndey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i Coupe [0.00]	Don't underestimate 4x4 drive. Also, I bet its heaps lighter than a 135. __________________ One should love animals. They are so tasty.
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Alext Banned 138 Rep 2,042 Posts Drives: B M W Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everest iTrader: (2)	I love armchair racing...135i is slightly heavier than an 09 WRX...but the extra 30kw would make up for that no problem...
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qship Disillusioned bourgeois capitalist pig! 21 Rep 488 Posts Drives: Blue Join Date: May 2008 Location: Malbin, Ozstralia iTrader: (0)	Traction is action. I traded an Sti for my 135. In an all out drag the sti will launch in a way the 135 could only dream about. However, look at the terminal speed over say a 1/4 mile. The 135 will be travelling quicker and will get to 160kph about a second quicker/ __________________ You can lead a fool to knowledge but you cannot make him think!
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bobbynoway Private First Class 5 Rep 186 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Maybe they did the test with tank almost empty, red line clutch dumps, spare wheel taken out, on a slighty angled down road, with 100 kmph wind assistance, cold air temps, 100+ octane fuel to get those times. I have driven evos and previous gen wrx and for daily driving they never felt as fast as they are claimed, too laggy. You have to abuse them to get going, which I dont like to do.
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MikeVictor Brigadier General 210 Rep 3,288 Posts Drives: anything given a chance Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: .au iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 Mazda ND MX-5 [10.00]	Price to punch ratio it's hard to beat a WRX, which is why I bought one a few years ago. When I had some decent money to throw down, I bought the 135 and have never looked back since (and I loved that WRX).
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qship Disillusioned bourgeois capitalist pig! 21 Rep 488 Posts Drives: Blue Join Date: May 2008 Location: Malbin, Ozstralia iTrader: (0)	That is the weight of an Sti. The WRX is marginally lighter. For all intents, the WRX and 135 weigh within a few kgs of each other. The difference is that for the same weight Subaru add a 4wd system and 2 extra doors. __________________ You can lead a fool to knowledge but you cannot make him think!
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