-=EMS=-Dry Carbon Sun Roof. YES Sun Roof!!

AlBel1214 · 01-21-2009, 09:27 PM

+1

JME · 01-21-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Monaco35Dream

this is effin cool....but i like my sunshine

The sunroof still works. You can have your sunshine, and it'll weigh less :D

Andrew@ET · 01-21-2009, 10:26 PM

No group buy guys Sorry .. but the first 3 people to purchase get 10% off hows does that sound?

jkp1187 · 01-22-2009, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew@EMS

definitely not for the faint of heart.. not to mention it is 100% dry carbon not just laid carbon

What's the difference...? :iono:

Andrew@ET · 01-22-2009, 12:37 PM

DRY CARBON vs WET CARBON
Many people do not realize what the difference between wet carbon fiber and dry carbon fiber, and sometimes the carbon fiber product they are purchasing is not entirely carbon fiber. People always judge the product just by the price, they do not understand the equipment, raw material and making mold are all different.

Dry carbon fiber is made in a pre-preg and dry process which consists of vacuum forming sheet of carbon fiber into a mold at temperatures around 350¢K, this process allows carbon fiber to form into a strong and lightweight composite.

On the other hand, wet carbon fiber is formed by using hand laid carbon fiber sheets into a mold then mixed with resin (30% carbon fiber, 70%resin). This process may allow air pockets form inside, then makes the wet carbon fiber structure weak and also is susceptible to changes in temperature.

We can usually notice the difference between them by looking at the surface of the material. Dry carbon fiber surfaces are smooth and show no air bubble pockets. In contrast, wet carbon fiber is wavy and air bubble pockets are noticeable. Because of the molding process, dry carbon fiber cost more to produce than wet carbon fiber.

WAY · 01-23-2009, 09:09 AM

How about a dry carbon roof? That way those without a sunroof or really do not want a roof can have an option!

Andrew@ET · 01-23-2009, 09:53 AM

A cf roof overlay with no sun roof cut out?

AlBel1214 · 01-23-2009, 10:09 AM

^^^ I think a CF roof with the cutout would be sweet...

Andrew@ET · 01-23-2009, 02:48 PM

should have no cut out very soon

WAY · 01-23-2009, 05:10 PM

Hang on Andrew...overlay? If I understand what you mean by overlay, then doesn't that defeat the purpose unless you are only doing it for cosmetic reasons? I want something a carbon roof that reduces the weight of my car and importantly reduces the centre of gravity...

Andrew@ET · 01-23-2009, 06:31 PM

yes its cosmetic.. You want your roof cut out and a carbon one in its place?

I dont know about that does not sound very safe if you were to flip or something .

WAY · 01-25-2009, 05:17 AM

BMW itself use it for their M series cars, so why not? Only question is, how do they bond the CF roof to the rest of the body?

Andrew@ET · 01-25-2009, 08:08 PM

do not think they just cut out the oem roof and replace it with cf..

bluephobic(1) · 07-06-2010, 12:05 PM

I'm def in on a group buy.

Andrew@ET · 07-06-2010, 12:11 PM

Wont be happening sorry we do not work with that vendor anymore they are a scammer.

Fibreoptix.

BrokenVert · 07-06-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bluephobic(1)

I'm def in on a group buy.

You are new here so let me fill you in. These cf pieces were made by a mook who stole peoples money including money from this company ems, who made this thread.

A reputible company called iCarbon it going to make a similar moonroof piece with the next or month or two so you should wait for that.

bluephobic(1) · 07-06-2010, 12:26 PM

Thanks for the info and not flaming the new Guy.

onefastman · 07-06-2010, 09:35 PM

+1 on icarbon, im on the list!

01-21-2009, 09:27 PM	#23
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01-21-2009, 10:26 PM	#25
Andrew@ET Brigadier General 181 Rep 4,038 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	No group buy guys Sorry .. but the first 3 people to purchase get 10% off hows does that sound?
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01-22-2009, 12:37 PM	#27
Andrew@ET Brigadier General 181 Rep 4,038 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	DRY CARBON vs WET CARBON Many people do not realize what the difference between wet carbon fiber and dry carbon fiber, and sometimes the carbon fiber product they are purchasing is not entirely carbon fiber. People always judge the product just by the price, they do not understand the equipment, raw material and making mold are all different. Dry carbon fiber is made in a pre-preg and dry process which consists of vacuum forming sheet of carbon fiber into a mold at temperatures around 350¢K, this process allows carbon fiber to form into a strong and lightweight composite. On the other hand, wet carbon fiber is formed by using hand laid carbon fiber sheets into a mold then mixed with resin (30% carbon fiber, 70%resin). This process may allow air pockets form inside, then makes the wet carbon fiber structure weak and also is susceptible to changes in temperature. We can usually notice the difference between them by looking at the surface of the material. Dry carbon fiber surfaces are smooth and show no air bubble pockets. In contrast, wet carbon fiber is wavy and air bubble pockets are noticeable. Because of the molding process, dry carbon fiber cost more to produce than wet carbon fiber.
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01-23-2009, 09:09 AM	#28
WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	How about a dry carbon roof? That way those without a sunroof or really do not want a roof can have an option!
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01-23-2009, 09:53 AM	#29
Andrew@ET Brigadier General 181 Rep 4,038 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	A cf roof overlay with no sun roof cut out?
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01-23-2009, 10:09 AM	#30
AlBel1214 Major 52 Rep 1,118 Posts Drives: past 135i, now c6, future M3?? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Philly iTrader: (0)	^^^ I think a CF roof with the cutout would be sweet... __________________ -----LS3 C6----- *z51 suspension,* *NPP dual mode exhaust(wild2mild),20% tint,* zr1 replica wheels, gloss black fender stripes** R.I.P SGM 135i w/ some mods
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01-23-2009, 02:48 PM	#31
Andrew@ET Brigadier General 181 Rep 4,038 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	should have no cut out very soon
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01-23-2009, 05:10 PM	#32
WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Hang on Andrew...overlay? If I understand what you mean by overlay, then doesn't that defeat the purpose unless you are only doing it for cosmetic reasons? I want something a carbon roof that reduces the weight of my car and importantly reduces the centre of gravity...
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01-23-2009, 06:31 PM	#33
Andrew@ET Brigadier General 181 Rep 4,038 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	yes its cosmetic.. You want your roof cut out and a carbon one in its place? I dont know about that does not sound very safe if you were to flip or something .
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01-25-2009, 05:17 AM	#34
WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	BMW itself use it for their M series cars, so why not? Only question is, how do they bond the CF roof to the rest of the body?
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01-25-2009, 08:08 PM	#35
Andrew@ET Brigadier General 181 Rep 4,038 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	do not think they just cut out the oem roof and replace it with cf..
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07-06-2010, 12:05 PM	#36
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07-06-2010, 12:11 PM	#37
Andrew@ET Brigadier General 181 Rep 4,038 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	Wont be happening sorry we do not work with that vendor anymore they are a scammer. Fibreoptix.
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07-06-2010, 12:26 PM	#39
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07-06-2010, 09:35 PM	#40
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