04-12-2011, 05:38 PM | #67 |
Lieutenant Colonel
28
Rep 1,938
Posts |
I wasn't totally sold on this car for a long time, but now that I see what the ED prices are relative to what a US purchased 135i runs these days, it turns into a very compelling package for what they want for one. I'm toying with the idea.
Last edited by Brandon26pdx; 04-12-2011 at 09:24 PM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 06:21 PM | #69 |
Banned
224
Rep 3,094
Posts |
I ordered my 135 in Feb of 08 and I am not thinking twice about "upgrading" to the 1M
Im paying about 3-4k more for the 1M than I paid for the 135 in 2008 and they are loaded similarly. I dont doubt the 1M isnt a huge improvement (if any) red light to red light, but if thats what we are using as a measuring stick I can buy cars for half the price and get the red light to red light jump. |
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 06:31 PM | #70 | |
First Lieutenant
16
Rep 329
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
JOY is being offered in manual transmission and RWD. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 07:16 PM | #71 | |
Brigadier General
1846
Rep 4,836
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 07:21 PM | #72 |
Banned
224
Rep 3,094
Posts |
That was my point , if I wanted a straight line car I could beat the 1M or 135 for half the price. Its dumb to say the 1M isnt a worthy upgrade because it shaves 0.1 or 0.2 secs off a 0-60 time.
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 07:32 PM | #73 |
Brigadier General
1846
Rep 4,836
Posts |
Gotcha. Misunderstood your previous statement. So what you are saying is the 1M is a worthy upgrade to the 135 but not for the 0-60.
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 07:40 PM | #74 | |
First Lieutenant
16
Rep 329
Posts |
Quote:
I think there is still too many people that use 0-60 to dictate car purchases. And the Audi TTRS comparo responses reflect that. For some reason adults still have the childish notion that if a car goes fast 0-60, it goes faster on any course, and track, any road. If anything the C&D remarks about the TTRS should squash this notion - but you can lead a horse to water..
__________________
JOY is being offered in manual transmission and RWD. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 09:05 PM | #75 |
Captain
14
Rep 602
Posts |
Thanks for your opinion. Unless you have driven a 1M and you can tell us if you have, I'll go ahead and rely on the opinions of Chris Harris and others who have actually driven the thing, and I am an existing 135 owner. Plan to get into one - and at the same time keep improving my 135 - at the first opportunity. You can't possibly look at a set of published figures which can tell you only that much, and appreciate how a car truly performs. And to the naysayers generally - those who think the 1M is a parts bin poser M car - you could do much worse than having a go at re-learning the alphabet. Especially the letter M and what it stands for in the context of BMW, because as far as parts-bin mongrels go, our 135s (and I do love mine) fit that bill very well what with a zillion mods from a zillion aftermarketers albeit working together very nicely under one roof.
__________________
BMW Performance Exhaust, Michelin Pilot Supersports F-225/40, R-255/35, BMW Performance Suspension, BMW Performance black kidneys, Quaife LSD, M3 rear sub-f bushings, M3 front control arm, rear guide rod and rear upper link kits, BMW Performance cross-drilled/slotted rotors, AFE Cold Air Intake. Last edited by Yogijet; 04-12-2011 at 09:30 PM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 09:14 PM | #76 | |
Captain
14
Rep 602
Posts |
Quote:
1. I agree; 2. congrats on the pending 1M acqusn.; and 3. if for whatever reason, the 1M doesn't work out - you need to wear sunglasses to drive the VO everyday, people stop and stare and ask you inane questions just to spend time with the car, or your significant other starts to trash it out of jealousy - please, please, please, shout me first for a quick sale .
__________________
BMW Performance Exhaust, Michelin Pilot Supersports F-225/40, R-255/35, BMW Performance Suspension, BMW Performance black kidneys, Quaife LSD, M3 rear sub-f bushings, M3 front control arm, rear guide rod and rear upper link kits, BMW Performance cross-drilled/slotted rotors, AFE Cold Air Intake. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 11:01 PM | #77 |
Lieutenant
13
Rep 483
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 11:03 PM | #78 |
Lieutenant
13
Rep 483
Posts |
Personally I agree with the article. The 1M is really not significantly different from a 135...and despite the fact I'll get massacred for this statement, I'll say it anyway...the 1M is not a real M!
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 11:32 PM | #80 |
Captain
26
Rep 672
Posts |
[QUOTE=BMWBoss;9356387]Personally I agree with the article. The 1M is really not significantly different from a 135...and despite the fact I'll get massacred for this statement, I'll say it anyway...the 1M is not a real M![/QUOTE
Is the x5 M not a real M because it's a truck? What about the x6 M? If the M division builds a car it's an M car. It's really quite simple. |
Appreciate
0
|
04-12-2011, 11:32 PM | #81 | |
Banned
224
Rep 3,094
Posts |
Quote:
I may not even sell my 135 when I bring the 1M home, I havent decided yet. Neither of these is my daily driver, they are 4 and 5 in the stable. New 135 buyers should look at the 1M as a viable option and any serious driver would take the M. Its an easy decision worth the extra 4k hands down. Current 135 owners are in a different boat and I think finances for each individual dictates if they can or should upgrade. If one cant afford it then it doesnt matter if the M goes to 60 in 1.5 secs, but to say its not worth it because it only shaves 0.1 sec off the time isnt logical. As you stated, and I along with many agree, the car as a package offers much more than a 0-60 time. I dont care if you can mod a 135 for less than the upgrade cost, thats not the same, but its a feasible option for someone who doesnt have a spare 50k laying around. I can buy the M and mod that too (as it is my 135 now is quicker than the M will be when it arrives). Im not paying 50k to get to 60 quicker, I could do that for 15k |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-13-2011, 03:16 AM | #82 | ||||
Brigadier General
121
Rep 4,070
Posts |
Quote:
Bollocks right back at ya. If you read what I said concerning existing owners (135i) that already have done the M3 susp. upgrades AND a tune...this is not a huge jump...bottom line...Recently bought? pffffft....MY2008, April build. When I pull up to the lights next to one I would embarrass a stock 1M with the posted numbers from C&D...sorry (370WHP, 401lb/ft....sorry not impressed by the numbers right now). Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
*note* Remember guys I am not angry or mad at ya! Just spirited discussion. I have no problem agreeing to disagree! |
||||
Appreciate
0
|
04-13-2011, 03:19 AM | #83 | |
Brigadier General
121
Rep 4,070
Posts |
Quote:
You could theoretically spend the 15k to get your existing car around the track faster AND faster to 60. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-13-2011, 08:09 AM | #84 | |
Captain
26
Rep 672
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-13-2011, 09:22 AM | #85 | |
Brigadier General
121
Rep 4,070
Posts |
Quote:
REMEMBER guys I DO like the car It is a BMW after all and I BMW's! |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-13-2011, 09:32 AM | #86 |
Captain
25
Rep 612
Posts
Drives: On a good day, AW 1M coupe
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: between Indiana and the alley
|
The M division is not defined by NA motors.
They have already stated that FI is the future of M. The 1M is among the first of many more to come. It just so happens that great naturally aspirated motors were a big part of what made the previous generations of M cars legendary, and that's great. Last edited by ///1M; 04-13-2011 at 10:06 AM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
04-13-2011, 09:34 AM | #87 | |
Brigadier General
1846
Rep 4,836
Posts |
Quote:
Well BMW seems to think it is a 'real' M and that is good enough for us. Aside from the engine the 1M is basically an M3 covered with a different skin. The performance out of the box is close to that of the current M3 with the bonus of better fuel economy at a much better price point. The 1M is what the M3 was before it got fat. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-13-2011, 09:38 AM | #88 |
La Flama Blanca
27
Rep 1,545
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|