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[ptack]

Here are 2 quick and dirty iphone pics. I had the wheels on for less tha 24 hours - why?
1) RUBBING!! The rears have 265/35s as recommended by both Mod Bargains and Forgestar. On the slightest bounce or bump THEY RUB and not just a little - it can sound like the tire is coming through the wheel well.
2) Vibration - these wheels do not appeat to be specifcally made for the 1 series and their hubs are machined a bit larger than the BMW hubs. To compensate for this, Forgestar includes thin aluminum rings to fill the gap. The problem we encountered is that these rings are so tight to the car hubs that, even scoured and greased, it was very difficult to get just one on/off for a test fit. There is no way it would come off after 8 months of driving and be reusable. So, because I need to switch wheels, I mounted them without the rings. The result was some slight fluttering and vibration at certain speeds.
I may post better pics next week if I mount them again for our meet in Edison. I'll also let you all know what Forgetar and Mod Bargains has to say.

[randomquickness]

I have been very seriously considering these for a second set of light weight 18's. I look forward to seeing how this turns out! Sucks you had the issues right off the bat man!

[BrokenVert]

that sucks man, I know youve been waiting for those for awhile.

[oneintheory]

i'm not sure how these issues could be anyones fault but your own...
i had forgestars in 19" and ran 265/35 on the rear with absolutely ZERO rubbing issues. I had PS2s as well...ultimately, it comes down to the tire. some will rub and some will not. i have a vert, which has a slightly lower ride height than the coupe to begin with as well.


as far as the rings go, i was able to remove 3 in a fashion that would enable me to reuse them, but one was flush with the hub and i had to torch it off. driving without them WILL cause vibrations, that's why they're included.

[M3R1]

Sucks bigtime...

[Stig'sM3]

im running 265s in the rear with ps2s and no rubbing issues at all. and why were you surprised with the vibration when you didnt install the hub rings??? haha seriously

[Schn3ll]

I am also running 265s and no rubbing issues, unless I go over huge bumps with a FULL car (3 passengers). And even then the rubbing is very brief. And about the hubcentric rings, what did you expect? USE THEM.

[ptack]

The rings are pretty much a one shot deal. You put them on and they are not likely to come off in a reusable shape. That's not a good solution. Maybe if I can get 20 more from Forgestar it will work. That will be a 5 year supply.

The tires are not even close to fitting. They even rub on sharp curves if there's enough lean.

Are those with 265s that don't rub usubng Forgestar 18" F14s? These are Hankook V12 tires.

[mc1877]

Im about to pull the trigger on these wheels but after this read second thoughts are entering. Hub rings? WTF? Why would you run wheels that did fit as they should? Sounds like a universal "fix" which equals poor quality in my mind.

[Schn3ll]

I just took my 19" Forgestars off for winter and I salvaged all of my rings easily. I don't see why these would be thought of as a 1 shot deal. It takes a little effort but they come off.

What are the offsets on the 18's? Possibly different than the 19's?

[Username135]

Originally Posted by Schn3ll

I just took my 19" Forgestars off for winter and I salvaged all of my rings easily. I don't see why these would be thought of as a 1 shot deal. It takes a little effort but they come off.

What are the offsets on the 18's? Possibly different than the 19's?

Your rings came off but that is not always the case. For the 18's, I would be more concerned that they are rated at 1200lbs.

[Yvette]

sux to hear..... this make me think reconsidering forgestar

[oneintheory]

god, this place is SO doom and gloom. one person's problems do not translate into a bad product and bad company.

[Username135]

Originally Posted by oneintheory

god, this place is SO doom and gloom. one person's problems do not translate into a bad product and bad company.

A wheel rated at 1200lbs per corner does raise concerns.

[AchtungF80]

That stinks Paul...all that waiting and this is the end result.
I wouldn't drive on them if they are fluttering like that...could become a safety issue.
Can't wait to see what the vendor has to say.

[modbargains]

Hey Guys,

For those of you doubting these wheels, do not because first things first the original poster should not be running the wheels without the rings to begin with. His concerns are that the rings will not be able to come off but for the members that have had the wheels for sometime they have not had any issues removing these rings.

Originally Posted by oneintheory

i'm not sure how these issues could be anyones fault but your own...
i had forgestars in 19" and ran 265/35 on the rear with absolutely ZERO rubbing issues. I had PS2s as well...ultimately, it comes down to the tire. some will rub and some will not. i have a vert, which has a slightly lower ride height than the coupe to begin with as well.


as far as the rings go, i was able to remove 3 in a fashion that would enable me to reuse them, but one was flush with the hub and i had to torch it off. driving without them WILL cause vibrations, that's why they're included.

Originally Posted by Schn3ll

I am also running 265s and no rubbing issues, unless I go over huge bumps with a FULL car (3 passengers). And even then the rubbing is very brief. And about the hubcentric rings, what did you expect? USE THEM.

Originally Posted by Schn3ll

I just took my 19" Forgestars off for winter and I salvaged all of my rings easily. I don't see why these would be thought of as a 1 shot deal. It takes a little effort but they come off.

What are the offsets on the 18's? Possibly different than the 19's?

I think we all notice a pattern here pretty much saying use the rings.

Originally Posted by Username135

Your rings came off but that is not always the case. For the 18's, I would be more concerned that they are rated at 1200lbs.

I've gone over this issue numerous times and what it comes down to it these wheels are specifically designed for light cars like the E82's and Porsche's. If you called STL they would tell you that the wheels were purposely tested to check for 1200lb load rating, not that the wheels only passed for this amount. Forgestar obviously doesn't want these wheels going on bigger vehicles like the 7 series -which is what a 4564lb Curb weight (750i) they threw in an additional tolerance level- that if they want, they've offered to throw the wheels at STL again at a higher load rating, fairly confident with their additional 20% that it would do 1400lbs.

Originally Posted by e90sexion

sux to hear..... this make me think reconsidering forgestar

DON'T RECONSIDER these wheels are amazing and you will be pleased

Originally Posted by oneintheory

god, this place is SO doom and gloom. one person's problems do not translate into a bad product and bad company.

Totally agree with you on this one. Seriously guys read the responses before you jump to conclusions about the Forgestars. On another note at **********s we would never recommend running a 265 although many of you do and seem to have no issues.

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[larryn]

Originally Posted by rbernard1984

What size and offsets did you end up going with?

+1 What offset did you order?

Rubbing is a very separate issue from not running the rings, and the problems that causes.

[ptack]

18x 8.5 ET48, 18x 9 ET52
As best as I could determine with the limited amount of driving that I did, the rubbing is probably coming from the inside edge of the fender. Oddly, the rear on the passenger side rubs way more than the driver side.
Forgestar has said they can supply extra rings which is good since I'm going to want a supply of extras. They think they might be able to adjust the offset slightly on the rears, but only up to 4mm. I'll reassess the wheels this Saturday at our lunch get-together. We'll see what the collective 1Addicts wisdom says.

[onehungevo]

Originally Posted by ptack

18x 8.5 ET48, 18x 9 ET52
As best as I could determine with the limited amount of driving that I did, the rubbing is probably coming from the inside edge of the fender. Oddly, the rear on the passenger side rubs way more than the driver side.
Forgestar has said they can supply extra rings which is good since I'm going to want a supply of extras. They think they might be able to adjust the offset slightly on the rears, but only up to 4mm. I'll reassess the wheels this Saturday at our lunch get-together. We'll see what the collective 1Addicts wisdom says.

Clean your car and post better pictures!!

[sek-m]

18x9 ET 52 on the rear and they rub??

I am waiting to spring to change my whells and buy ones of 18x9 ET 48 for rear so this is interesting for me

[Victory Road]

The Hankook tires in 265 width is the main problem here. I love the Hankook tires, but they run wide. As **********s said, 265 is not the recommended size even though it is common to see. 255 would have reduced, if not eliminated your rubbing

[ptack]

Originally Posted by frank@WSTO

The Hankook tires in 265 width is the main problem here. I love the Hankook tires, but they run wide. As **********s said, 265 is not the recommended size even though it is common to see. 255 would have reduced, if not eliminated your rubbing

Thanks for pointing that "recommendation" issue out. I missed it on the Mod Bargains reply. Here is one of my discussions with them about this from many months ago.



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Roger,

I'm very interested and am just trying to check on potential tires and overall fit. Could I do 265/35 tires on the rears (18 x 9 et52) or would they rub? I don't want to have to roll the fenders or exagerate the camber. I would expect that a 255 tire would work if necessary. I'm also looking into 235/35s for the front and have similar questions. Has anyone tried these size wheels on a 1 series? What about the 18 x 9.5? Not enough offset?

Paul

Hello Paul,

Glad to hear that you are interested, these size wheels have not been tested on the E82 yet; however, from what I know and my professional opinion, they 235/35 F 265/35 R combo will work. A 255 in the rear will fit for sure, no rubbing what-so-ever.

As for the 9.5" width, we are still looking at this possibility. I will let you know once we come to any conclusion.


Best regards,

Roger