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[JLD8BMW]

just wanted to see if anyone else has seen Goodyear run flats on their new cars. Picked up my 128i last week and found Goodyears mounted. I had not heard those mentioned on the forum. Any better than Bridgestone?

Looking to get rid of the run flats and end of life and move on to non-run flats.

[CentralPA E82]

Two varieties on the 128. The LS2 on the non-sports (touring tire - not bad for a RFT) and the NCT on the sports. Not sure if they still use the NCT though.

[Tom K.]

If you have the sport package they are NCT5s. They were OEM on my ZSP '08 128i and they weren't bad for Summer Touring RFTs. The handling was surprisingly good, wet traction was very good, the tires were quiet and the ride wasn't bad at the stock 32/35 pressures.

However, when I tried to replace my worn rear tires at around 24,000 miles (fronts were only half worn), the only 2 rear tires available in the US would have had to be shipped from the west coast at a total price of $700 including mounting, balancing & tax. At that time, Tire Rack no longer listed them for the 128i, although I believe they are now available again.

I decided to change to non RFT Conti Extreme DWS and had 4 mounted for a total out the door cost of $600. The car leans more on corners but rides much more comfortably - both of which were to be expected moving to non RFT all-seasons. But except for the body lean, the Contis handle very well and both dry and wet grip are excellent.

So you should probably get around 20,000 miles or so out of the Goodyears until at least your rear tires will need replacing.

Tom

[ulrichd]

Originally Posted by Tom K.

If you have the sport package they are NCT5s. They were OEM on my ZSP '08 128i and they weren't bad for Summer Touring RFTs. The handling was surprisingly good, wet traction was very good, the tires were quiet and the ride wasn't bad at the stock 32/35 pressures.

However, when I tried to replace my worn rear tires at around 24,000 miles (fronts were only half worn), the only 2 rear tires available in the US would have had to be shipped from the west coast at a total price of $700 including mounting, balancing & tax. At that time, Tire Rack no longer listed them for the 128i, although I believe they are now available again.

I decided to change to non RFT Conti Extreme DWS and had 4 mounted for a total out the door cost of $600. The car leans more on corners but rides much more comfortably - both of which were to be expected moving to non RFT all-seasons. But except for the body lean, the Contis handle very well and both dry and wet grip are excellent.

So you should probably get around 20,000 miles or so out of the Goodyears until at least your rear tires will need replacing.

Tom

Why would tires increase the amount of body lean on your car? Springs, shocks and swaybars influence that.

[zamboni]

[QUOTE=Tom K.;8125386]If you have the sport package they are NCT5s. They were OEM on my ZSP '08 128i and they weren't bad for Summer Touring RFTs. The handling was surprisingly good, wet traction was very good, the tires were quiet and the ride wasn't bad at the stock 32/35 pressures.

However, when I tried to replace my worn rear tires at around 24,000 miles (fronts were only half worn), the only 2 rear tires available in the US would have had to be shipped from the west coast at a total price of $700 including mounting, balancing & tax. At that time, Tire Rack no longer listed them for the 128i, although I believe they are now available again.

I decided to change to non RFT Conti Extreme DWS and had 4 mounted for a total out the door cost of $600. The car leans more on corners but rides much more comfortably - both of which were to be expected moving to non RFT all-seasons. But except for the body lean, the Contis handle very well and both dry and wet grip are excellent.

My original plan was Conti as replacement but changed my mind last minute will go with Michelin PS2 non RFT this weekend, I also upgrade the rim to 269 style as well.
So you should probably get around 20,000 miles or so out of the Goodyears until at least your rear tires will need replacing.

[bozola]

I had NCT's on my 128 sport. I hated them. Cord separation @ 25000 miles on the rear, they were shot and around $300+ each.

I replaced them with Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. Haven't looked back since.

[Tom K.]

Originally Posted by ulrichd

Why would tires increase the amount of body lean on your car? Springs, shocks and swaybars influence that.

I can only assume it's the softer sidewalls. (Should have said "general lean" rather than "body lean".)

Tom