[sirees01]

Without any bias, do you think the quality of E90 is superior to E60 ?

I sat in both a E91 & E60 today both with Leather & nice spec.
Without any bias, the E60 interior felt inferior against the E91.

[voltron1011]

That's because the E60 is more "Bangle" than the E90.

[SCA]

Not really a fan of any of the new interiors, E65/E66 (7), E60 (5), E63/E63 (6) E83 (X3), E85 (Z4), and the E90. The E90 interior has grown on me more than any of the others and that is really the one one that matters.

[sirees01]

Originally Posted by voltron1011

That's because the E60 is more "Bangle" than the E90.

Who got their hands on the E90 then ?

Bangle must have had some input !

[SCA]

Originally Posted by sirees01

Who got their hands on the E90 then ?

Bangle must have had some input !

Adrian van Hoodydonk.

[Bimmerista]

Originally Posted by SCA

Adrian van Hoodydonk.

He is the guy who made Bangle fameous-HE did the 7 series.

I think the e60 is grop-dead gorgeous on the outside, on the inside the double hump à la IDrive is simply uncool. As well, the dash is too high; there should have been one less cant indentation, remove the bottom lip in the middle and things would have been just fine.

Of course this is my opinion. Best move BMW could make, again, IMHO is to re-engineer their vehicles and make IDrive an option across the line.

[maq]

Originally Posted by voltron1011

That's because the E60 is more "Bangle" than the E90.

Why is the E60 more "Bangle" than the E90? And what does Chris Bangle have anything to do with quality?

It seems blaming Bangle is a trend now. "If there's anything you don't like about a new BMW, it's because Chris Bangle has ruined it..."

Originally Posted by SCA

Adrian van Hoodydonk.

That'd be Joji Nagashima.

[Bimmerista]

That'd be Joji Nagashima.[/QUOTE]


Joji baby did the outside, not the inside design.

[LEDZEP]

I've never been in an E60, so I can't answer.

[maq]

Originally Posted by Bimmerista

Joji baby did the outside, not the inside design.

Well, I was refering to the AVH comment.

Yes, Nagashima was the exterior designer. The E90's interior design was proposed by Matthias Hoffman.

How we get on the designers topic in a thread about quality is beyond me...

[Bimmerista]

Ah, we are experts at digression without complete irrelevance.

[maq]

Originally Posted by Bimmerista

Ah, we are experts at digression without complete irrelevance.

In simply words, we are damn good at thread hijacking.

Just to be on topic, I think the two models' interiors are of equal quality.

[SCA]

Originally Posted by maq

Why is the E60 more "Bangle" than the E90? And what does Chris Bangle have anything to do with quality?

It seems blaming Bangle is a trend now. "If there's anything you don't like about a new BMW, it's because Chris Bangle has ruined it..."



That'd be Joji Nagashima.

He actually penned it. Influence came from AVH which trickles down from Bangle.

[fq1]

As a former owner of a 2005 545i (just sold it last week), all the talk about the e60 interior quality being inferior is garbage. Maybe the earlier 2004s might have been but definitely not the 05. I just ordered an e90 330i and am hoping that they have improved the interior quality from the one that I drove in the Ultimate Drive event. Those cars appeared to be pre-production cars and definitely their interiors materials were significantly inferior to that of my e60. In fact, their interiors felt almost as cheap as that of my 04 X3 (which I believe is the best driving SUV out there but is severely let down by the quality of its interior materials). However, a couple of minutes in the showroom the other day in a 330 appeared to allay my fears about the the e90's interior. In conclusion, I would attest that the e60 interior quality is at least as good as that of the e90, if not better. Now, styling is a different matter. I did not like that of the e60 initially but warmed up to it soon. And those who complain about I-Drive should not be driving these cars. I got so used to it that I feel withdrawal symptoms right now. Could be improved? Absolutely. Is it better than MMI? Definitely, in my opinion. But then, I even liked the original i-Drive on my previous two 745s. If my then 7-year-old and 4-year-old could figure out most of the functions on it by themselves within 15 minutes, then there is something wrong with the critics who can not figure it out.

No flames, just MHO.

[Xens]

Originally Posted by fq1

As a former owner of a 2005 545i (just sold it last week), all the talk about the e60 interior quality being inferior is garbage. Maybe the earlier 2004s might have been but definitely not the 05. I just ordered an e90 330i and am hoping that they have improved the interior quality from the one that I drove in the Ultimate Drive event. Those cars appeared to be pre-production cars and definitely their interiors materials were significantly inferior to that of my e60. In fact, their interiors felt almost as cheap as that of my 04 X3 (which I believe is the best driving SUV out there but is severely let down by the quality of its interior materials). However, a couple of minutes in the showroom the other day in a 330 appeared to allay my fears about the the e90's interior. In conclusion, I would attest that the e60 interior quality is at least as good as that of the e90, if not better. Now, styling is a different matter. I did not like that of the e60 initially but warmed up to it soon. And those who complain about I-Drive should not be driving these cars. I got so used to it that I feel withdrawal symptoms right now. Could be improved? Absolutely. Is it better than MMI? Definitely, in my opinion. But then, I even liked the original i-Drive on my previous two 745s. If my then 7-year-old and 4-year-old could figure out most of the functions on it by themselves within 15 minutes, then there is something wrong with the critics who can not figure it out.

No flames, just MHO.

So you found different levels of quality between different E90s? That's very interesting, I wonder why.

[SCA]

Originally Posted by Xens

So you found different levels of quality between different E90s? That's very interesting, I wonder why.

"I just ordered an e90 330i and am hoping that they have improved the interior quality from the one that I drove in the Ultimate Drive event. Those cars appeared to be pre-production cars and definitely their interiors materials were significantly inferior to that of my e60."

[Xens]

Originally Posted by SCA

"I just ordered an e90 330i and am hoping that they have improved the interior quality from the one that I drove in the Ultimate Drive event. Those cars appeared to be pre-production cars and definitely their interiors materials were significantly inferior to that of my e60."

Exactly, I wondered why they were putting lower grade materials in those prototypes then decided to change to higher grade materials. Or is it simply an impression the above poster received without any real change in the materials.

I can read just fine, thank you.

[BimmerGuyFL]

I can atest to this because when the E60 first came out I test drove it and found the interior to be a notch below the E39 525i I drove back then. a year later when the 05 Model E60's came out i found the interior quality to be much improved. as far as the E60 interior being better or worst then the E90, it's pretty close but I feel as if the E60 feels more solid and as the same quality of that of the E90. I currently own a 2005 E60 530i and a 2005 E46 330i.

[ward]

I really doubt that very many people at all own both cars

so just about everyone's vote is meaningless

[SCA]

Originally Posted by Xens

I can read just fine, thank you.

[sirees01]

Originally Posted by ward

I really doubt that very many people at all own both cars

so just about everyone's vote is meaningless

I know a few people who own a E60 & have also bought E90's as their second car.

Generally most of these people bought their E60 before launch & were very unhappy with the quality of the interior after their purchase.

My father in law was one of these people, & he offloaded the car after 6 months & took a big hit.

[mrbelk]

Originally Posted by fq1

As a former owner of a 2005 545i (just sold it last week), all the talk about the e60 interior quality being inferior is garbage. Maybe the earlier 2004s might have been but definitely not the 05. I just ordered an e90 330i and am hoping that they have improved the interior quality from the one that I drove in the Ultimate Drive event. Those cars appeared to be pre-production cars and definitely their interiors materials were significantly inferior to that of my e60. In fact, their interiors felt almost as cheap as that of my 04 X3 (which I believe is the best driving SUV out there but is severely let down by the quality of its interior materials). However, a couple of minutes in the showroom the other day in a 330 appeared to allay my fears about the the e90's interior. In conclusion, I would attest that the e60 interior quality is at least as good as that of the e90, if not better. Now, styling is a different matter. I did not like that of the e60 initially but warmed up to it soon.

Funny you mention a comparison to the '04 X3. My wife's '05 X3's interior materials and quality are significantly better than the '04 X3. My '04 545's interior materials are not quite up to par; there are several places where BMW used some pretty thin, cheap plastic.

The '06 E90 interior seems to me to be of significantly higher quality than my '04 E60.

One more reason to not buy a first year BMW...

-MrB