BMW Performance Wheels and seats

Si-M240i · 03-09-2009, 08:58 AM

Seats:
How much lighter than standard (each) ?
Still use air bags ?
Standard seat belts able to be used ?
Pics ?

Wheels:
how much lighter per corner ?
Pics ?

matt · 03-09-2009, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si-135i

Seats:
How much lighter than standard (each) ? Bout 40lbs
Still use air bags ? yes
Standard seat belts able to be used ? yes
Pics ?

Wheels:
how much lighter per corner ? 7,5x18 is 10,2kg, 8,5x18 is 10,7kg
Pics ?

There you go

LemansE82 · 03-09-2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt

There you go

Did a search, but not much info came up.
I know what they look like and must say...they are HOT!!
I'm trying to find out how much they go for and if it's available?

gtaday51 · 03-09-2009, 10:53 AM

about 1300 for the 269s from Dan. The seats are stupid expensive. If you want them that badly get some Recaros.

LemansE82 · 03-09-2009, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtaday51

about 1300 for the 269s from Dan. The seats are stupid expensive. If you want them that badly get some Recaros.

Dam...that's baller price...i'm guessing $1300 is for one seat?
They are still hot though...

Thanks for the info.

driftergary89 · 03-09-2009, 11:48 AM

also from what i could find out the seat arnt sokd in the states because they dont meet some weird safty feature

LemansE82 · 03-09-2009, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftergary89

also from what i could find out the seat arnt sokd in the states because they dont meet some weird safty feature

Thanks...I was wondering how come it's not on UnitedBmw's website.
Guess we can't get here in the US.

Si-M240i · 03-09-2009, 12:57 PM

Cheers for the help. I thought the wheels were lighter, but with the weight above, I don't know by how much as what do the standard ones weigh ?

Seats, I have tried to find pick and prices in UK but no joy yet. Maybe I will use the phone ;o) I don't want to go to harnesses so stabdartd seat belts is good for me. Althought it sound like they may be stupid money, but it is a big weight saving

matt · 03-09-2009, 01:10 PM

Price for one seat is 1500 Euro.
Íf you get discount at your dealer you will get one seat for like 1300 euro...

The 261 or 261 is like 1 or 2 kg more (without tires).
Weight above is also without tires.

Speed Cat · 03-09-2009, 01:24 PM

The seats were on E BAY about 2 months ago for $8000.00 USD

The guy was from the US too

rcracer_tx · 03-09-2009, 03:10 PM

The seats are Recaro pole positions with BMW stitched on it if you are interested... Buy from Recaro and you can save thousands...

gtaday51 · 03-09-2009, 05:57 PM

The 269s are I think 2 or 3 punds lighter than the 264s.

Si-M240i · 03-10-2009, 02:52 AM

so, 4 wheels will save me about 4 Kg's. I think I will stick with stock for the time being.

With regard to the seats "Recaro pole positions" is a good tip. Would they need new chassis or do they bolt straight on ? are there any other things to do with them, ie dfo they already have the airbags fitted and the correct plugs to wire them in etc ?

adc · 03-10-2009, 09:44 AM

They are not Recaro Pole Position with a BMW logo on them. First off, they have side airbags. And I think the backseat reclines. (And I like the finish much better, but that's highly personal).

I was under the impression you can have these for around $5k. If you can sell your OEM power heated leather Sport seats for $2k, then they become attainable for mere mortals.

If you're seriously thinking about getting these in the US, I'd ask Dan @ United, or somebody at Tischer.

BMWeber · 03-10-2009, 10:18 AM

a little seat clarification: seats are Recaro sportster CS witch are available with airbags from Recaro in Europe. you cannot get the BMW performance seats in the us with out going through lots of hoops. I sat in Turner motorsports 128i with them and you loose about 3-4 inches of head room with factory bracketing. with some custom bracketing and not caring about the airbag you could probably get a set(of Recaros) in cloth for about $4500 installed.

http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/store/s.../recaro-street

tom @ eas · 03-10-2009, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftergary89

also from what i could find out the seat arnt sokd in the states because they dont meet some weird safty feature

That "weird safety feature" is a Seat Occupancy sensor in the passenger seat.

tom @ eas · 03-10-2009, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt

Originally Posted by Si-135i View Post
Seats:
How much lighter than standard (each) ? Bout 40lbs
Still use air bags ? yes
Standard seat belts able to be used ? yes
Pics ?

Wheels:
how much lighter per corner ? 7,5x18 is 10,2kg, 8,5x18 is 10,7kg
Pics ?

There you go

That's incorrect. BMW PS are not much lighter than stock:

BMW Power Seat (M3): 67lbs
BMW Performance Seat: 55lbs.

For the price people are paying for these, you can get a Recaro Sportster CS seat and have a big chunk of change left over.

fourtailpipes · 03-10-2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

The seats are Recaro pole positions with BMW stitched on it if you are interested... Buy from Recaro and you can save thousands...

i think you're confusing with the e46 m3 CSL seats, which used a modified pole position shell with bmw upholstery and hardware... the performance seats are made by recaro for bmw, but are not based on any available aftermarket seat.

the e46 m3 GTR did in fact use unmodified recaro pole positions...

OP: between the wheels and seats, you'll spend 7,000-10,000, and save maybe 30 pounds if you're lucky...

if you really want to save weight, get breyton wheels and aftermarket seats... breytons save like 8 pounds per corner, and standard racing shells (like pole position) would save like 45 pounds EACH. best of all, you can do all that for well under 4,000.

BMWeber · 03-10-2009, 07:28 PM

I've seen the BMW performance seats and the sportster cs in person they are the same seat

fourtailpipes · 03-10-2009, 08:18 PM

they say they're a BMW original by recaro, but after taking a closer look, i think you're right. at least very close. i wonder how they fit comparatively. the csl seats fit pretty different from the aftermarket version of the pole position, despite being the same shell, because the bmw version had very different pad shaping...

oneintheory · 03-10-2009, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

That's incorrect. BMW PS are not much lighter than stock:

BMW Power Seat (M3): 67lbs
BMW Performance Seat: 55lbs.

For the price people are paying for these, you can get a Recaro Sportster CS seat and have a big chunk of change left over.

Amen. By the way, are you aware that your sig graphic (for the V710) says "gummetal" instead of "gunmetal"?

tom @ eas · 03-10-2009, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oneintheory

Amen. By the way, are you aware that your sig graphic (for the V710) says "gummetal" instead of "gunmetal"?

Thanks for the heads up.

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Si-M240i Major 137 Rep 1,450 Posts Drives: M240i LCI Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England iTrader: (0)	Cheers for the help. I thought the wheels were lighter, but with the weight above, I don't know by how much as what do the standard ones weigh ? Seats, I have tried to find pick and prices in UK but no joy yet. Maybe I will use the phone ;o) I don't want to go to harnesses so stabdartd seat belts is good for me. Althought it sound like they may be stupid money, but it is a big weight saving __________________ M240i LCI (Mineral Grey):- M2 Door Mirrors, M2 Black Kidney Grills, Lower grille inserts, MP Exhaust, Dinan Carbon Fibre CAI, hot climate intake elbow
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matt Captain 61 Rep 613 Posts Drives: munichs finest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Stuttgart iTrader: (0)	Price for one seat is 1500 Euro. Íf you get discount at your dealer you will get one seat for like 1300 euro... The 261 or 261 is like 1 or 2 kg more (without tires). Weight above is also without tires. __________________ f*ckin' love my car <3
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gtaday51 gone but not forgotten 35 Rep 985 Posts Drives: gone 135 - Hello 1M! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Big Apple iTrader: (0)	The 269s are I think 2 or 3 punds lighter than the 264s. __________________ Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration don't fail me now.
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Si-M240i Major 137 Rep 1,450 Posts Drives: M240i LCI Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England iTrader: (0)	so, 4 wheels will save me about 4 Kg's. I think I will stick with stock for the time being. With regard to the seats "Recaro pole positions" is a good tip. Would they need new chassis or do they bolt straight on ? are there any other things to do with them, ie dfo they already have the airbags fitted and the correct plugs to wire them in etc ? __________________ M240i LCI (Mineral Grey):- M2 Door Mirrors, M2 Black Kidney Grills, Lower grille inserts, MP Exhaust, Dinan Carbon Fibre CAI, hot climate intake elbow
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BMWeber Major 36 Rep 1,329 Posts Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Amesbury, MA iTrader: (5)	a little seat clarification: seats are Recaro sportster CS witch are available with airbags from Recaro in Europe. you cannot get the BMW performance seats in the us with out going through lots of hoops. I sat in Turner motorsports 128i with them and you loose about 3-4 inches of head room with factory bracketing. with some custom bracketing and not caring about the airbag you could probably get a set(of Recaros) in cloth for about $4500 installed. http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/store/s.../recaro-street
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