Rolled Fenders...Thanks M!

[Dan Parker]

Has anyone noticed the fenders are already rolled?
Nice! Thanks M!!!

285 R
265 F

???

I'm going to flip flop my wheels front to back tonight to see if the 10's fit in the front.

[BMW86]

Nice!!

[JHOOPS2]

A wider tire would definitely be my first mod. Those oe tires are to narrow for the wheels imo.

[fastauto]

i bet you can do a 18x10 square setup without issues

[///M1]

Great to know, I rolled mine (on my other car) over the weekend, a long DIY (as fenders are aluminum and are soft, hence can crease/warp and you have to keep the paint warm with a heat gun as you go slowly back and forth a few milimieters at a time). While it was 'fun' to do it once, happy to know the 1///M does not need it!

BTW, did the rear wheels fit up front? At a minimum, I'm thinking slapping the rear tires up front (perfectly fine putting 265s on a 9" wheel) and going 285/30 in the rear).

PS: do you think there is clearance for say a 10mm spacer?

[ESC OFF]

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

Has anyone noticed the fenders are already rolled?
Nice! Thanks M!!!

285 R
265 F

???

I'm going to flip flop my wheels front to back tonight to see if the 10's fit in the front.

I'd love to see you drive it that way, maybe you can convince someone its Front Wheel Drive......did they fit??

[Dan Parker]

BTW, did the rear wheels fit up front?

Scroll down about 30%. I took pics and did a short write up:

Post #77
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=528522&page=4

I don't think there's room for 10mm spacer front or rear. I'm going to lower mine before I mess with spacers to see. Look at this pic to see the stock suspension compressed.

http://www.simplywireless.org/simplywireless/1mdt.html

[Dan Parker]

I'd love to see you drive it that way, maybe you can convince someone its Front Wheel Drive

I meant I'd square it up with another set of rear wheels/tires up front. Since you are on the subject of putting the fronts on the rear check out the sweet offset of a 9" wheel on the rear.

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

I meant I'd square it up with another set of rear wheels/tires up front. Since you are on the subject of putting the fronts on the rear check out the sweet offset of a 9" wheel on the rear.

I wish the 135i fenders were rolled... I'll need to get mine done soon.

[Dan Parker]

Another reason to pay a "premium" for a 1M! When I look up and see no sunroof I think about my rolled fenders and it almost seems worth it. Don't tell any e9x M3 guys about the rolled fenders or suddenly they will all chime in about how they have adjustable suspension, an awesome V8, and a real M car.

[M3 Adjuster]

don't forget carbon fiber...lol

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

Another reason to pay a "premium" for a 1M! When I look up and see no sunroof I think about my rolled fenders and it almost seems worth it. Don't tell any e9x M3 guys about the rolled fenders or suddenly they will all chime in about how they have adjustable suspension, an awesome V8, and a real M car.

The M1 is a 30k premium over the 135i in Australia, but I can still justify spending that much when you take into account the LSD, suspension etc. It's still great value here and it would be a no-brainer in the USA.

I'm probably one of the few guys that likes my sunroof and uses it all the time, I don't mind a bit of added weight if it's my daily driver. Love my idrive too!

[Papethova]

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

Another reason to pay a "premium" for a 1M! When I look up and see no sunroof I think about my rolled fenders and it almost seems worth it. Don't tell any e9x M3 guys about the rolled fenders or suddenly they will all chime in about how they have adjustable suspension, an awesome V8, and a real M car.

That might end once the M3 goes to the parts bin for the air curtains

[///M1]

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

Scroll down about 30%. I took pics and did a short write up:

Post #77
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=528522&page=4

I don't think there's room for 10mm spacer front or rear. I'm going to lower mine before I mess with spacers to see. Look at this pic to see the stock suspension compressed.

http://www.simplywireless.org/simplywireless/1mdt.html

Thx for the link, Dan, and your 'experimentation' with the wheels, which sheds some light what we can and cannot do (or more like what we should and should not do ).

The offset of the rears is really too much to place on the fronts, too bad really, was hoping it could have worked like on my E39 M5 where I was running 275s on all 4 corners and 4 rear rims (fronts required a tiny 3mm spacer to clear my BBK). It also allowed to rotate tires which in a powerful RWD car is huge. But given you can put a 265 tire on a 9" wheel easily, I suppose one can run a square setup if they really insisted on it, despite the wheel width being an inch apart.

[Dan Parker]

Your'e welcome, no trouble really. I was very curious about this.
Although the 265 will fit on a 9" wheel I'd like to see how the sidewall looks compared to the 265 on the 10" wheel. I have a set of 285's that I stuffed on the rear of my Z4 M Coupe (barely) so I may mount them on my rear wheels when the Michelins wear out. At that point I may go with a 265 on the front wheels as I'd like to keep a 20mm difference between front and rear tires. In the first 1000 miles I'm convinced a square setup isn't ideal for the cars handling. I may change my mind once I get on the track but after pushing it through the corners this past week I'm very happy with the balance. It's very neutral and seems to oversteer easier than understeer.

[hwelvaar]

Hi fellas, what does 'rolled' mean?
Tnx.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

Hi fellas, what does 'rolled' mean?
Tnx.

Normally the inside of the fenders look like an L or C shape.

135i fenders look like this:

x
x
x.....x
xxxxx


1M fenders are rolled and look like this:

x
x
xx
xx


When a fender is "rolled" normally someone uses a tool to flatten the inside of the fenders down. A tool like this one...

http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=52

[mPlasticDesign]

Originally Posted by JHOOPS2

A wider tire would definitely be my first mod. Those oe tires are to narrow for the wheels imo.

I agree. But makes me wonder if the rolled fenders and the stretched tires were necessary just to make it even clear with the 10" ZCP's on the back???

[Franklin Joseph]

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

so I may mount them on my rear wheels when the Michelins wear out.

So this will take a few weeks? hehe

Has JC looked/driven the car yet?

[Dan Parker]

I agree. But makes me wonder if the rolled fenders and the stretched tires were necessary just to make it even clear with the 10" ZCP's on the back???

I think there's room for 275's on the rear wheels, which means I'm gong to try 285's. I think they will fit. I plan on getting it on an alignment rack in the coming weeks to see what M secrets are in the factory alignment and what we might do to make them better. It looks like they were conservative with the negative camber (I'm guessing -1r and -1.2f) so I'm curious what, if anything, can be done to improve it.

Has JC looked/driven the car yet?

I've only had it 1 week! But seriously, he's been busy racing @ VIR. I have a 3 day race at Mid-Ohio next weekend so I'm too busy getting the race car ready to worry about turning wrenches on the new car. I'm thinking June/July I'll head up to BW HQ for some lift time.