radar detectors vs OPP

Mortify · 03-10-2014, 01:02 PM

Hey there fellow Canadians,

I just got my tax return in and I was thinking about getting a radar detector, specifically the belltronics Sti magnum. I was going to get it from kmph.ca

1. Do any of you have experience with radar detectors against the OPP?

2. Had anyone here used kmph.ca before?

3. Your thoughts on the purchase?

Thanks!

ZIPNBYE · 03-10-2014, 04:55 PM

No thoughts on your questions, but I really like my Belltronics STi detector. I've kissed it many times!

ronster · 03-10-2014, 06:55 PM

Dont think radar detector is legal in Ontario

KeepRightPassLeft · 03-10-2014, 08:52 PM

Radar detectors are very illegal in Ontario. If you are going to use one the best ones are the Beltronics STiR+ or the Escort Redline. If you get the redline, you must hardwire the power to it (don't use the cigarette lighter power cord) and mount it as high as possible,on the windshield and run it in dark mode.

ASPEC135i · 03-11-2014, 10:33 PM

Is it highly illegal here since its highly effective??? *winkgrin

pj.rodriguez · 03-12-2014, 12:14 PM

They are illegal in Ontario, but I know people that use radar detectors. Any particular reason as to why you would have to hardwire it and run it in dark mode all the time in Ontario?

Does the OPP have radar jammers and can tell when you have a radar?

Mortify · 03-12-2014, 02:38 PM

Yes they are illegal, that is why I'm looking for undetectable detectors, like the sti magnum. I was planning on hardwiring the detector through the cars electronics and using a sun visor mount to discretely hide it.

KeepRightPassLeft · 03-12-2014, 09:09 PM

The OPP looks for radar detector power cords and lights.

pj.rodriguez · 03-12-2014, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepRightPassLeft

The OPP looks for radar detector power cords and lights.

Is that all it is? They don't have some sort of radar detector, detector?

Also, I think valentine sells built in radars into the rearview mirror.

KeepRightPassLeft · 03-12-2014, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pj.rodriguez

Is that all it is? They don't have some sort of radar detector, detector?

Also, I think valentine sells built in radars into the rearview mirror.

They have radar detector detectors too. The Escort Redline, Beltronics STiR+ and Magnum are invisible to them. The Valentine1 is highly visible to RSFSR detector detectors.

TeinBMW · 04-11-2014, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortify

Hey there fellow Canadians,

I just got my tax return in and I was thinking about getting a radar detector, specifically the belltronics Sti magnum. I was going to get it from kmph.ca

1. Do any of you have experience with radar detectors against the OPP?

2. Had anyone here used kmph.ca before?

3. Your thoughts on the purchase?

Thanks!

I used to live in Ontario and I swear this was illegal to have a radar detector?

3002 tii · 04-11-2014, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TeinBMW

I used to live in Ontario and I swear this was illegal to have a radar detector?

Get an undetectable one, Bel/Escort make a few although a bit pricey.

TeinBMW · 04-11-2014, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 3002 tii

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Originally Posted by TeinBMW

I used to live in Ontario and I swear this was illegal to have a radar detector?

Get an undetectable one, Bel/Escort make a few although a bit pricey.

How would it be undetectable? Cops just can't receive the radar signal?

3002 tii · 04-11-2014, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TeinBMW

How would it be undetectable? Cops just can't receive the radar signal?

Correct, cops use radar detector detectors (RDD) in states/regions where RD's are illegal. These models can't be picked up RDD's like the Spectre. I don't know if it's because it gives off a different signal or jams the signal, probably the former b/c jamming seems like it would be against FCC regulation.

Keep in mind it's pointless if the RD is hanging on your windshield in plain view. Off the top of my head I think the few undetecable models are 9500ci, Redline, Sti, Sti-R, and Sti-R+ or something like that. Of those I would try to get the one that doesn't come equipped with laser jammers since Escort lidar products are average at best (although their RD's are pretty good). If you need LIDAR protection, go with Laser Intereceptors.

Edit: I will add if you pick up refurbished 8500's from Escort (eBay), those usually come with the older m3 antenna which is preferable b/c those too are not detectable. I used to read up on this stuff ALL the time when I used to speed, not the case anymore lol.

TeinBMW · 04-11-2014, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 3002 tii

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeinBMW

How would it be undetectable? Cops just can't receive the radar signal?

Correct, cops use radar detector detectors (RDD) in states/regions where RD's are illegal. These models can't be picked up RDD's like the Spectre. I don't know if it's because it gives off a different signal or jams the signal, probably the former b/c jamming seems like it would be against FCC regulation.

Keep in mind it's pointless if the RD is hanging on your windshield in plain view. Off the top of my head I think the few undetecable models are 9500ci, Redline, Sti, Sti-R, and Sti-R+ or something like that. Of those I would try to get the one that doesn't come equipped with laser jammers since Escort lidar products are average at best (although their RD's are pretty good). If you need LIDAR protection, go with Laser Intereceptors.

Edit: I will add if you pick up refurbished 8500's from Escort (eBay), those usually come with the older m3 antenna which is preferable b/c those too are not detectable. I used to read up on this stuff ALL the time when I used to speed, not the case anymore lol.

+1 great info!!!

Mortify · 04-11-2014, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TeinBMW

+1 great info!!!

Just to update my own thread, I purchased the Beltronics STi Magnum, with a direct wire kick (DIY in the electronics section) and a visor pouch to keep it concealed. works great saved me from a few tickets

pj.rodriguez · 04-11-2014, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortify

Just to update my own thread, I purchased the Beltronics STi Magnum, with a direct wire kick (DIY in the electronics section) and a visor pouch to keep it concealed. works great saved me from a few tickets

haha. How fast were you going? I drive 140 pretty much all the time, and I use my eyes and common sense as a radar detector.

ASPEC135i · 04-12-2014, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortify

Just to update my own thread, I purchased the Beltronics STi Magnum, with a direct wire kick (DIY in the electronics section) and a visor pouch to keep it concealed. works great saved me from a few tickets

How does it work???

Was it a speed trap that was set up? A cop parked on the shoulder of hwy?

Brooklyn Mark · 04-12-2014, 09:21 AM

Does anyone know if the V1 is undetectable? What if you have it built into the mirror?

KeepRightPassLeft · 04-18-2014, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 3002 tii

Correct, cops use radar detector detectors (RDD) in states/regions where RD's are illegal. These models can't be picked up RDD's like the Spectre. I don't know if it's because it gives off a different signal or jams the signal, probably the former b/c jamming seems like it would be against FCC regulation.

Keep in mind it's pointless if the RD is hanging on your windshield in plain view. Off the top of my head I think the few undetecable models are 9500ci, Redline, Sti, Sti-R, and Sti-R+ or something like that. Of those I would try to get the one that doesn't come equipped with laser jammers since Escort lidar products are average at best (although their RD's are pretty good). If you need LIDAR protection, go with Laser Intereceptors.

Edit: I will add if you pick up refurbished 8500's from Escort (eBay), those usually come with the older m3 antenna which is preferable b/c those too are not detectable. I used to read up on this stuff ALL the time when I used to speed, not the case anymore lol.

The older refurbished 8500 from Escort on EBay have the S7 antenna which is not stealth to RDD. The 8500 was never made with the M3 antenna.

As for laser jammers the AntiLaser Priority is the one to go with.

KeepRightPassLeft · 04-18-2014, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklyn Mark

Does anyone know if the V1 is undetectable? What if you have it built into the mirror?

It isn't undetectable.

Mortify · 04-19-2014, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pj.rodriguez

haha. How fast were you going? I drive 140 pretty much all the time, and I use my eyes and common sense as a radar detector.

I was going 90km/h in a 50km/h zone, As one example. I like to think of the radar detector as a condom, it doesn't work 100% of the time, but if you're going to do it, why not have some protection?

In my city most of the cruisers keep their radar on while driving, I get at least a 30 seconds heads up before I even see them. Just because I have the radar detector doesn't mean that I'm not still on the lookout for undercover patrols.

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Originally Posted by ASPEC135i

How does it work???

Was it a speed trap that was set up? A cop parked on the shoulder of hwy?

It catches all sorts of radar bands within a frequency range, sometimes I get false positives in with City Mode No X Band on, but the false positives are in known locations and never move.

How has it saved me from tickets?

A few times I've been beating it and my detector will alert me of a signal, I immediately hit the brakes, slow down to the legal limit and let them pass me. I've been tagged by two speeds traps but I had at least a 20 second alert before the cop coming into view.

The best part is, is that cops radar only has a few hundred meter range, whereas my detector can pick up to one mile away... kind of unfair

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