n55 exhausts? berk race/street or other?

135rampo · 03-12-2015, 02:46 AM

hello,

Im based in the UK and having trouble trying to find many exhausts available for the 135i. Im looking for something thats fairly loud but with dct i really dont want something that is going to drone? is the berk street my best bet? or with just a race axel back will it drone?
its probably work mentioning that i am only looking to change the axel back at this time then down pipe at a later date.

Cheers Rampo

Alex@YSPECtuning · 03-12-2015, 02:50 AM

Hello 135ramp,

Berk street is a great axle back system. It will cause zero drone. If you are looking for an axle back system, why not look into the BMW Performance exhaust. It's a nice sounding system, not to loud, zero drone. Another one you can look into is Agency Power and Corsa. Hope this helps!

-Alex

135rampo · 03-12-2015, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex@YSPECtuning

Hello 135ramp,

Berk street is a great axle back system. It will cause zero drone. If you are looking for an axle back system, why not look into the BMW Performance exhaust. It's a nice sounding system, not to loud, zero drone. Another one you can look into is Agency Power and Corsa. Hope this helps!

-Alex

thank you for the quick reply. i have looked into the bmw performance one although in the UK it is nearly twice the price of a berk axel back! is the berk street louder than the bmw performance or vice versa? will also looking into agency power and corsa although i need a supplier who is happy to send to the UK!

e36addict · 03-12-2015, 07:16 AM

The berk street will be quieter than the PE exhaust, but it has a much lower/deeper tone to it. I personally prefer the stock muffler or PE muffler over the berk street. If you plan to keep the stock cat and resonator in place I say go with the berk race. Sounds much better IMO

Solo_M_Tech · 03-12-2015, 08:24 AM

With stock DP, and Resonator, Berk Race. With Catless DP and Res Delete, Berk Street or something custom.

mike@x-ph.com · 03-12-2015, 12:26 PM

berk is nice but would go with the Active Autowerke Gen I

135rampo · 03-12-2015, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by e36addict

The berk street will be quieter than the PE exhaust, but it has a much lower/deeper tone to it. I personally prefer the stock muffler or PE muffler over the berk street. If you plan to keep the stock cat and resonator in place I say go with the berk race. Sounds much better IMO

will i not get horrible drone with the berk race on a n55 with dct?

e36addict · 03-12-2015, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 135rampo

will i not get horrible drone with the berk race on a n55 with dct?

With stock cat and resonator, no.

I ran BMS DP, stock resonator and Berk race for a while and the drone was pretty bad. After many different setups I ended up with the DP, resonator delete and stock muffler. It sounds wonderful. Same setup with a PE muffler is just barely any louder, but still no drone and the sound is even more glorious.

135rampo · 03-13-2015, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by e36addict

With stock cat and resonator, no.

I ran BMS DP, stock resonator and Berk race for a while and the drone was pretty bad. After many different setups I ended up with the DP, resonator delete and stock muffler. It sounds wonderful. Same setup with a PE muffler is just barely any louder, but still no drone and the sound is even more glorious.

so just to confirm with just the race axel back on a standard 135i n55 dct there wont be any drone?

Pyrat 2 · 03-13-2015, 05:54 AM

BMWP on a DCT has drone unless you keep the revs up.

135rampo · 03-13-2015, 06:21 AM

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BMWP on a DCT has drone unless you keep the revs up.

Thats annoying to find out

Cavpilot2k · 03-13-2015, 09:03 AM

Hmm. That's unfortunate about the drone. The PE (w/res-delete Y-pipe) on my N55 manual doesn't drone. I guess the DCT sits at a less-than ideal RPM range during cruise speeds?

When I got my car with the PE pre-installed, I expected to not like it and want to change it out immediately. I, however, found that I really like it. Tastefully quiet when you want it so, and lovely sound when you get on it. The only downside is that it is loud on cold start. I don't mind, but my GF thinks it sounds like a teenager's car on cold start. I secretly love it.

135rampo · 03-13-2015, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cavpilot2k

Hmm. That's unfortunate about the drone. The PE (w/res-delete Y-pipe) on my N55 manual doesn't drone. I guess the DCT sits at a less-than ideal RPM range during cruise speeds?

When I got my car with the PE pre-installed, I expected to not like it and want to change it out immediately. I, however, found that I really like it. Tastefully quiet when you want it so, and lovely sound when you get on it. The only downside is that it is loud on cold start. I don't mind, but my GF thinks it sounds like a teenager's car on cold start. I secretly love it.

Thats the sort of thing im looking for! 850 GBP here for the exhaust and y pipe though so over $100 i think for you guys seems a lot for not a lot if you know what i mean?

Cavpilot2k · 03-13-2015, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 135rampo

Thats the sort of thing im looking for! 850 GBP here for the exhaust and y pipe though so over $100 i think for you guys seems a lot for not a lot if you know what i mean?

kinda. The original owner paid $1200 USD for the BMW PE. FWIW, it isn't just an axle-back, it does come with a mid-section that deleted the resonator (and secondary cat if you are running N54).

135rampo · 03-14-2015, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cavpilot2k

kinda. The original owner paid $1200 USD for the BMW PE. FWIW, it isn't just an axle-back, it does come with a mid-section that deleted the resonator (and secondary cat if you are running N54).

do you have to cut anything to fit it?

Cavpilot2k · 03-14-2015, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 135rampo

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Originally Posted by Cavpilot2k

kinda. The original owner paid $1200 USD for the BMW PE. FWIW, it isn't just an axle-back, it does come with a mid-section that deleted the resonator (and secondary cat if you are running N54).

do you have to cut anything to fit it?

No. It's factory fitment.

135rampo · 03-15-2015, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cavpilot2k

No. It's factory fitment.

Ok thanks mate

loesch · 03-15-2015, 03:19 AM

Considering where the Euro is now vs the Dollar I'd try and source a BMW PE Exhaust.

loesch · 03-15-2015, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

berk is nice but would go with the Active Autowerke Gen I

Why are you trying so hard to sell the AA Gen I's? I've seen you in more than one thread now trying to sell these when it's not necessarily the best option for the OP.

mike@x-ph.com · 03-15-2015, 03:48 AM

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Why are you trying so hard to sell the AA Gen I's? I've seen you in more than one thread now trying to sell these when it's not necessarily the best option for the OP.

Because in my opinion this exhaust offers the best combination between loud and no drone (daily driver) which is exactly what OP is looking for.
its not like AA is the only brand we offer and im just trying to make a sale. We offer 19 different 135i exhausts. I gave OP my honest opinion about the best exhaust for him based on his preference ( if he had asked for the loudest 135 exhaust, i would have recommended something else)

You will see me recommending the AA 135 exhaust Gen I in every thread when guys are asking for an exhaust that offers a good combo between loud / good daily driver because in my opinion this exhaust does exactly what OP is asking for.

we are all entitled to our opinion and can recommend the exhaust that we think fits OP's needs . im not sure why you are bothered by me giving an opinion in this thread or any other thread ?

135rampo · 03-15-2015, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Because in my opinion this exhaust offers the best combination between loud and no drone (daily driver) which is exactly what OP is looking for.
its not like AA is the only brand we offer and im just trying to make a sale. We offer 19 different 135i exhausts. I gave OP my honest opinion about the best exhaust for him based on his preference ( if he had asked for the loudest 135 exhaust, i would have recommended something else)

You will see me recommending the AA 135 exhaust Gen I in every thread when guys are asking for an exhaust that offers a good combo between loud / good daily driver because in my opinion this exhaust does exactly what OP is asking for.

we are all entitled to our opinion and can recommend the exhaust that we think fits OP's needs . im not sure why you are bothered by me giving an opinion in this thread or any other thread ?

do you ship to the UK is the main thing?

.. · 03-15-2015, 12:12 PM

Don't waste your money on Berk mids.

Do a custom single 3" midpipe. It's cheaper and 100% better.

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Cavpilot2k Chief Warrant Officer 1025 Rep 1,638 Posts Drives: like a damn lunatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	Hmm. That's unfortunate about the drone. The PE (w/res-delete Y-pipe) on my N55 manual doesn't drone. I guess the DCT sits at a less-than ideal RPM range during cruise speeds? When I got my car with the PE pre-installed, I expected to not like it and want to change it out immediately. I, however, found that I really like it. Tastefully quiet when you want it so, and lovely sound when you get on it. The only downside is that it is loud on cold start. I don't mind, but my GF thinks it sounds like a teenager's car on cold start. I secretly love it. __________________ "Prius" is Latin for Eunuch. "Hrothgar": 2012 135i: 6MT M-Sport, BSM/Blk; Nav, Premium, Convenience, HK Dinan Stage 2 +PPK /// BMW PE /// VRSF CP /// K&N /// Koni Sports /// RSFB Inserts /// MPS4S 225/255 /// Other Stuff
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.. Lieutenant 62 Rep 581 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Somewhere iTrader: (0)	Don't waste your money on Berk mids. Do a custom single 3" midpipe. It's cheaper and 100% better.
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