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No Problem guys. Me posting it is a curse now. You'll be looking for it and it will be more pronounced now. :-( I know. It is pretty bad. They werent retouched to bring it out. It was posted on another forum by a man who sold his Honda. He was pretty excited. He didnt quite notice it until everyone else pointed it out.
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06-01-2009, 03:58 PM | #24 |
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My e92 M has it on the quarter panels, around the "m" logo on each side... unfortunately it's be around with BMW's for years...
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97930 for more pictures/information. |
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06-01-2009, 04:33 PM | #25 |
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I have some in my Crimson Red. I thought perhaps the texture I saw was because of the metal or something, I just didn't put much thought into it. Then I had it detailed and the detailer told me that was orange peel. Now I see it all the time. He did say mine was less than a lot of BMWs, and I've looked at a few others and can see he what he means.
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06-04-2009, 06:24 PM | #26 |
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I have noticed that BMW's have significant amount of orange peel but don't be too worried in regards to bmw only having orange peel, I have an infiniti and it has orange peel.
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06-05-2009, 08:03 AM | #27 |
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Yep,...Orange Peel Sucks.
My 87 E30 Vert had "some" Orange peel when I bought it,..but it also had surface scratches all over it from the previous owners rings. SOOOO TO ELIMINATE the ORANGE PEEL (and hundreds of surf scratches) on the E30:
Disclaimer: The wetsanding on the E30 either removed what was left of the clear coat,..or there wasnt much of one to begin with. Im not planning on doing this to my 135i. Too Risky,..but figured it was worth passing along to the masses.
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06-05-2009, 08:29 AM | #28 |
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The peel is in the clear. Just about all cars have it, some worse than others, and some makes worse than others. Dodge is the worst. If you really look close at your finish, you may also notice a fisheye, a bump, a piece of dirt painted over, bubbles, and light marks. No finish is flawless. Just live with it.....and yes, it is hard for a bodyshop (a good bodyshop) to match the peel.
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06-05-2009, 01:42 PM | #29 |
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Almost all paints have a certain amout of "peel". About the only car that I have seen without any peel is Bentley. There paint is hand rubbed and polished to eliminate peel.
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06-06-2009, 12:21 AM | #31 | |
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For those who don't know what this is, and it seems it's quite a few, the orange peel is not something you feel. IOW, it's not like you have divets in the paint. It simply looks like the surface of an orange. Thick paint can also cause this effect. BMW, Audi, MB, or higher end cars tend to have more layers of paint and that can add to the effect. More coats but thinner coats can help make this not happen, as well as proper sanding and smoothing in between coats. But, this is mass production, there isn't time or enough profit margin to be that precise. If you want perfection then go to a real professional auto painter and be prepared to buy for that hand applied perfection. Once auto paints switched to water based paints, this orange peel seemed to become much more common. I'm sure there were better paint levelers that were volatile and toxic and thus they are no longer used. Result is more orange peel. Here's some good info: Hard and Soft Paints Hardness: [In materials science, hardness is the characteristic of a solid material expressing its resistance to permanent deformation. There are three principal operational definitions of hardness: Scratch hardness, Indentation hardness, Rebound or dynamic hardness] Hardness is defined as the ability of a material to resist local deformation (or penetration) from externally applied pressure, and is directly related to its tensile strength; stronger materials are generally harder. The enamel paint finishes on vehicles from the 50’s and 60’s era were as tough as porcelain. But rightly due to environmental concerns, those high percentage petroleum based paints have been generally superseded, resulting in the softer water-based paint finishes of today and the unavoidable orange-peel seen on many new and re-painted vehicles. Today’s paints, unfortunately, rank somewhere near the bottom of the scale of hardness, especially single coat black / red paint the exception being white single stage and Ceramiclear, when compared to all the materials your paint can possibly come in contact with (always bear that in mind). |
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10-12-2009, 06:30 PM | #33 |
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We had some hail storm here and I never notice orange peel before, and got the repair shop to have a look - and the peel is in the clear. He said it takes lots of hours of work to make it mirror finish but it can be done.
The other option is that what can be done, is to spray an over coat of clear to the entire vehicle and that would fix the problem.... Looks like I might just put up with it!!
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Still looks like alot of orange peel to me. Between the gas cap and the tail light in particular, looks very orangey. |
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10-29-2009, 12:05 PM | #37 |
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Orange peel? Welcome to BMW. Go to your local dealership and check out a new M5 or 750 and you'll see it all over the place...even on a $100,000 car.
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