BMW PPK Cost?

Prodigy. · 05-08-2014, 06:50 AM

I called a couple of BMW dealerships to get quotes on the stage 1 PPK today. Both quoted around $1717 + installation. When i asked how much installation was one said $600!! the other said they will have to call me back.

Why is installation so expensive? I was under the impression it's just an ECU remap, how difficult can that be? What am i missing?

UR25IO · 05-08-2014, 07:07 AM

Not to sure but it will take most of the day to install and I think BMW charge $220per/hr
also if there is any glitch they would have to deal with the dramas. Should Read Up on the aftermath of PPK 1

MightyMouseTech · 05-08-2014, 07:57 AM

WTF? It is just a software update. Had my local dealer do it for 1 hour labour, $110. I thought that was bad.......

Harlequin · 05-08-2014, 08:47 AM

The problem is that the BMW install instructions supplied to the dealer will state the worst-case scenario for the time required to perform the coding.

As an example, my dealer told me it would take 8 hours of coding to upgrade my Base Stereo to the Alpine coding on my 135i.

It took 45 minutes.

However, my dealer quoted me $1600 to install because $200/hr X 8.

Just make it clear that you understand that the quote is worst-case cost but that you expect to pay only for the actual coding time...

ItsHectic · 05-08-2014, 12:33 PM

I dont think you need to get it done at a dealership, you can go to a trusty independent BMW mechanic, would be cheaper too.

Pete did my software update.

BMWRX · 05-08-2014, 03:15 PM

JB4, ProCede, or Cobb might be a cheaper and more beneficial alternative for you (although warranty is void).

ItsHectic · 05-08-2014, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWRX

=(although warranty is void).

They dont think it be like it is but it do.

TS135i · 05-08-2014, 05:35 PM

It set me back $2000 installed from the dealer when car delivered new, yes its a rip off but I do like it

Knightelf · 05-08-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsHectic

They dont think it be like it is but it do.

I have no idea what you meant

questionable · 05-08-2014, 06:43 PM

Why not just opt for a Cobb or jb4 ?

Prodigy. · 05-08-2014, 06:46 PM

I did briefly question why it was $600 to install and he said there is a lot of work involved.

Will wait to see what the other installation quote is before i make a decision but it does seem overly expensive, don't want to void warranty so that's the main reason i'm looking into the PPK.

ItsHectic · 05-08-2014, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightelf

I have no idea what you meant

The dealership wont know about an ECU tune, or atleast not most brands if you uninstall it before handing them the car.

UR25IO · 05-08-2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian///M

More rubbish

!

7smurfs · 05-08-2014, 07:42 PM

Excuse my laziness for not searching/googling but what sort of power gains does the PPK provide over stock for N54?

Harlequin · 05-08-2014, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsHectic

They dont think it be like it is but it do.

Umm.... OK.. If you say so... Not really sure what you're saying, but sure!

Quote:

Originally Posted by questionable

Why not just opt for a Cobb or jb4 ?

I get really sick of people asking this question... I think it's safe to assume that if someone specifically wants a PPK then they have already considered and rejected the aftermarket options...

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Originally Posted by Prodigy 72

I did briefly question why it was $600 to install and he said there is a lot of work involved.

PPK Stage 1 is simply an unlock code entered into the ECU. PPK Stage 2 is extra/replacement engine cooling hardware.

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Originally Posted by ItsHectic

The dealership wont know about an ECU tune, or atleast not most brands if you uninstall it before handing them the car.

The dealership can and will know as much as they can be bothered finding out. Anything and everything you do to the car is traceable if they devote enough time to looking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian///M

Order PPK from the USA. Must be installed at dealer as software is verified in Germany by VIN.

This.

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Originally Posted by 7smurfs

Excuse my laziness for not searching/googling but what sort of power gains does the PPK provide over stock for N54?

15kw. http://www.bmw.com.au/com/en/owners/...it_petrol.html

BMWRX · 05-08-2014, 08:48 PM

I think the question gets asked, Angus, in case the OP doesn't know about the aftermarket options. BMW rammed the PPK down my throat when I was buying and that's all I thought there was for a while...until I met the 1Addicts!

flinchy · 05-08-2014, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItsHectic

They dont think it be like it is but it do.

wise words

doesn't the PPK also include the radiator fan and a couple of other things?

like.. $200 or $300 worth? lol

ED: oh just stage 2, nvm.

pom3829 · 05-08-2014, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Prodigy 72

I called a couple of BMW dealerships to get quotes on the stage 1 PPK today. Both quoted around $1717 + installation. When i asked how much installation was one said $600!! the other said they will have to call me back.

Why is installation so expensive? I was under the impression it's just an ECU remap, how difficult can that be? What am i missing?

Bloody hell thats expensive, kit is $800 in the US excluding installation.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-11...55-engine.aspx

Does the installation have to take place a a BMW dealership?

thezone135i · 05-08-2014, 10:05 PM

I wonder.........if you bought it from the US and got it installed here would they be interested in any warranty claims after the fact? I know some places wont install anything unless they have ordered it from their own parts dept as the installer is bound to warranty the part even if you provide it.

Prodigy. · 05-08-2014, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWRX

I think the question gets asked, Angus, in case the OP doesn't know about the aftermarket options. BMW rammed the PPK down my throat when I was buying and that's all I thought there was for a while...until I met the 1Addicts!

BMW didn't mention anything to me about PPK when i bought the car, really it's just me looking at a tune without voiding warranty and i believe being a 2012/13 model 135i the usual tuning options aren't readily available.

I've read that with the PPK it also induces a bit more crackle and pop from the standard exhaust, can anyone confirm this?

UR25IO · 05-08-2014, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodigy 72

BMW didn't mention anything to me about PPK when i bought the car, really it's just me looking at a tune without voiding warranty and i believe being a 2012/13 model 135i the usual tuning options aren't readily available.

I've read that with the PPK it also induces a bit more crackle and pop from the standard exhaust, can anyone confirm this?

YES more crackle and pop..!

best part about its, change your axle back amps it up X3 add Y-pipe amps it up X5

you will frighten everyone on the streets!!

7smurfs · 05-08-2014, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UR25IO

YES more crackle and pop..!

best part about its, change your axle back amps it up X3 add Y-pipe amps it up X5

you will frighten everyone on the streets!!

A little OT but can anyone confirm that the same thing (crackle and pop) happens with a jb4/cobb/procede tune?

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