New twins being released

[ReyT]

have you guys seen it? from the other place that can never be mentioned...

Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech
I am a new supporting vendor and will be announced on the site soon. A little background until then, my company has been in the turbocharger business for 35+ years starting with High Performance custom applications in the 70's, and transitioning into FAA, Diesel, and Industrial turbochargers because frankly thats where the money is. But I have been following the N54 platform for a while and have seen the need for a good solution to the turbo problems you guys face. So I decided to come back to our high performance roots more for fun than anything else and try to bring you guys something you need. You can see our industrial and diesel site at Vargasturbo.com the dedicated N54 portion of the site is under construction and should be live soon. First off I am here to learn as much as I can from this community as we bring these products to the market because as I said we have a LOT of turbocharger experience but am relatively new to the N54 platform. We look forward to talking to and hopefully working with more of you guys. There will be more info to come soon. But I like to get my ducks in a row before I say too much. Just wanted to let some people know that the problem is being addressed and will be addressed properly. As for a timeline I am well into R&D and looking to drop the BB twins around christmas time so 2-3 months. But the direct replacement hybrids are already testing, should be ready to ship in 2 weeks or and will come in at a much lower price point than what is on the market currently.

Hybrids units are TD03 / TD04 hybrids and come in 2 stages.

Stage 1: Is a TD03 / TD04 Hybrid with an upgraded TD04 compressor wheel, machined compressor housing and bearing housing, new updated actuator, and 7 degree clipped stock turbine wheel. These will max out at around 475-500 BHP range. Intro price on these is $1499


Stage 2: Is the same as stage 1 but also upgrades to a TD04 turbine wheel on the exhaust side. These should max out around 550-575 BHP depending on tuning, fuel, meth, etc. We are testing them now. This is about where you are reaching the limits of the stock turbine housing and you might be able to push these to 600 but its working them overtime. Intro price on these is will be $1999

Stage 1 just about ready to ship and stage 2 should be ready to ship in about 2 weeks or so. I will keep you guys posted on the N54 section of our website going live for ordering.

Worth noting with all upgrades there is a core charge and once provided with rebuildable cores the charge is completely refunded. We can rebuild your stock units to like new condition for $799, core charge does also apply if your stock turbos are not rebuildable or you do not provide cores.

As always these are just turbochargers and gains are always dependent on proper tuning, complimenting upgrades, and proper fueling.

To answer your question DCAFS: This brings us to our Stage 3 which will be our Ball Bearing twin upgrades, they will include manifolds, turbos, downpipes, oil and water lines, and possibly charge pipes. These are in the R&D stage and unfortunately thats all I can say about them right now. But I will have pictures and a lot more info on them soon. Thanks for the inquiries and feel free to PM me questions and I'll do my best to answer them.

[Drawn05]

If they are quality then its great to have more options for when its time to upgrade. At those prices I am sure we will plenty of reviews from early adopters in the near future.

[mcmn]

I'm in.............pending results from the big black dyno.

[mcmn]

do you think i can install those in my car space at my apartment? :>

[BMW86]

I'm in if those numbers are accurate. I won't be the guinea pig though

[ReyT]

edited with some updated info (core charge) i missed in the copy and paste

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Originally Posted by mcmn

do you think i can install those in my car space at my apartment? :>

If you DIY'd DPs I'm sure you could do these

[mcmn]

Originally Posted by bmroxm5

If you DIY'd DPs I'm sure you could do these

haha nah I think you have to drop the sub frame to get the rear turbo out?

[ReyT]

Originally Posted by mcmn

haha nah I think you have to drop the sub frame to get the rear turbo out?

yeah pretty sure you do.

[pavo335]

I remember reading that a while ago but it smells IMHO

[Gumball]

I want this...

[Drawn05]

http://www.vargasturbo.com/autoindex.html

This appears to be the company. I guess they saw the market for putting td04 bits in td03 housing.

[ReyT]

Originally Posted by pavo335

I remember reading that a while ago but it smells IMHO

Hmm the guy just posted today, you could be thinking of someone else?

[dh58]

I'm interested at those prices

[pavo335]

Originally Posted by ReyT

Hmm the guy just posted today, you could be thinking of someone else?

if steve's right with the website then i'm definately thinking of someone else. the other was posted on the e90 main board iirc and they were based outs korea/china or somewhere like that.

[ReyT]

Originally Posted by pavo335

if steve's right with the website then i'm definately thinking of someone else. the other was posted on the e90 main board iirc and they were based outs korea/china or somewhere like that.

Yeah that is the website - i forgot to link it on my post, apparently they are doing a N54 section to their website which is going live soon.

[Justin@ADVAN Performance]

Originally Posted by pavo335

if steve's right with the website then i'm definately thinking of someone else. the other was posted on the e90 main board iirc and they were based outs korea/china or somewhere like that.

Hey Pavo,

I believe you were thinking of a guy out of Taiwan and a performance workshop he was hooked up with.

They were hybrid twins IIRC and they were considerably more expensive than RB turbos, whilst lacking the upgraded internal billet wastegate assembly of the RB's.

The billet wastegate assembly that Rob has engineered, is a key element of the RB turbo upgrade and will ensure zero wastegate rattle throughout the life of the turbo.

Upgrading the wastegate actuator is not a permanent fix, as it's the internal bush assembly on the wastegate arm that flogs outs over time, not just the actuator.

That being said turbos with worn wastegate arms will still make power, as an example Clinton's old turbos put down close to 300 rwkW's on Pete's dyno, even though they sounded like absolute crap on idle and partial throttle.

I have had a good look at the Vargas Turbo & Diesel website and they very much look like the real deal, but power development of their hybrid twins is not the only consideration with respect to cost IMHO, longterm durability of the turbochargers should be taken into account too.

Cheers,

JD.

[ReyT]

I remember the taiwanese company you guys are talking about (mainly the fat asian dude in the photo came in to my mind LOL).

Justin will Advan be a guinea pig for their turbo when it comes out (particularly their stage 3?)

[pavo335]

Originally Posted by ReyT

I remember the taiwanese company you guys are talking about (mainly the fat asian dude in the photo came in to my mind LOL).

Justin will Advan be a guinea pig for their turbo when it comes out (particularly their stage 3?)

I don't think Justin can count past 1 anymore

[ReyT]

Originally Posted by pavo335

I don't think Justin can count past 1 anymore

lol are you taking the piss with the state of his car?

[pavo335]

Originally Posted by ReyT

lol are you taking the piss with the state of his car?

nope.

If I was gonna take the piss, I'd make a comment about how much he drives the car, oops sorry I meant to say how much he doesn't drive the car

[Drawn05]

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746897

I take it these stage 3 upgraded twins will most likely not fit our RHD? Would there be enough space with our steering column.

Definitely keen buy myself some for Christmas!!