|
|
|
|
PLEASE HELP SUPPORT E90POST BY DOING YOUR TIRERACK SHOPPING FROM THIS BANNER, THANKS! |
|
BMW Garage | BMW Meets | Register | Today's Posts | Search |
|
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum
>
NitroFill? - Should I get it?
|
|
Wheels and Tires forum Sponsored by The Tire Rack
Please help to directly support e90post by doing your tirerack shopping from the above link. For every sale made through the link, e90post gets sponsor support to keep the site alive. Disclaimer |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
06-08-2006, 09:00 PM | #1 |
Banned
241
Rep 2,453
Posts |
NitroFill? - Should I get it?
My dealer is offering to fill up my tires with NitroFill for $59.99 plus tax. I was looking into it today and it seems to prove beneficial. What do you guys think? Do any of you have nitrogen in your tires right now? Here are the benefits: http://whynitrofill.com/benefits.php
|
06-08-2006, 09:32 PM | #3 |
your average JAMF
3101
Rep 4,094
Posts
Drives: '21 M2 Comp, '19 Golf R
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cochise County, AZ
|
While I can believe there is *some* benefit to filling with Nitrogen, it would seem that their claims are all greatly exaggerated. Better handling? Riiiight.
__________________
'21 M2 Comp
'19 Golf R |
Appreciate
0
|
06-08-2006, 09:34 PM | #4 |
Captain
52
Rep 996
Posts |
I think it's worth $60 to at least try it out. If you don't like it for whatever reason you can fill your tires back up with normal air later.
__________________
2006 330i Monaco Blue | Grey | Walnut ...Manual | Sports | Premium | Cold | Nav | Comfort Access | PDC | Sirius | Sunshade ...M-Tec Steering Wheel | M-Tec Shifter | TLC ...Performance Center Delivery | Oct 14, 2005 |
Appreciate
0
|
06-08-2006, 10:32 PM | #5 |
Major General
155
Rep 6,158
Posts |
absolute snake oil bullshit
don't give them 60 bucks for less than a dollar worth of nitrogen. no chance in hell a properly inflated tire with air is getting 5% less MPG than a tire with nitrogen. don't encourage the shady bastards selling this garbage by giving you their money the less suckers that buy in the less of these scams will come up |
Appreciate
0
|
06-08-2006, 10:36 PM | #7 |
***** noob
1369
Rep 10,479
Posts
Drives: 325xi>M235i>428GCx Mspor
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Boston
|
try it...but becareful not to hit a pothole, tire might explode..jk
__________________
2006 325xi (Sold)
2014 M235I (Current) 2015 428xi Gran Coupe (STB) |
Appreciate
0
|
06-08-2006, 10:40 PM | #8 |
Major General
990
Rep 6,381
Posts |
It does have benefits, technically, but not worth any amout of money IMO. My boyfriend used to work at an Audi dealer and felt like crap having to ask people if they wanted it. He put it in my tires and his own since it was free but we would never pay for it.
__________________
Nikki
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-08-2006, 11:10 PM | #9 | |
Captain
51
Rep 921
Posts |
Quote:
other production car. And the loss of pressure due to diffusion is negligible to justify that amount of money. It's money straight down the toilet. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-08-2006, 11:13 PM | #10 |
misadventurer
57
Rep 708
Posts |
i should write jamie from the mythbusters about this one. also, how about if you fill the tires with helium... will it be lighter?
__________________
325i I SP
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-08-2006, 11:19 PM | #11 |
First Lieutenant
26
Rep 305
Posts |
60 bucks is a bit too much for a nitro fill. In the Philippines, they do it for 10 bucks but I have seen tire stores in the States do it for 20. Although, they say that nitro in tires will give you better gas mileage etc... The main benefit that I experienced was the improved ride. It is a more comfortable, less choppy ride compared to regular air, specially now that I put on 19 inch wheels.
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-08-2006, 11:26 PM | #12 |
Second Lieutenant
16
Rep 210
Posts |
Tire pressures change. And when you have to re-air the tires do you have to go back for more, at what cost? I'm not buying it. But if you are I'll be keen to know the result.
__________________
Ordered- 4/6, Pro#- 4/8, Vin#- 4/15, Build date- 4/17, Completion date- 4/25, At port- 5/2, Loaded @ Bremerhaven- 5/4, on the water- 5/5, docked NYC- 5/18, Docked SC and released to carrier- 5/23, arrived Milwaukee -5/25! YEAH BROTHER! Drove it home- 5/31
330i SG/Beige 6MT, ZSP, ZPP, Comfort Access, Htd seats, Sirius, 35% tint. |
Appreciate
0
|
06-08-2006, 11:28 PM | #13 |
Got Seoul?
116
Rep 2,862
Posts
Drives: 2012 535i MSport
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Honolulu
|
This is from howstuffworks
I used to use nitrogen to fill my race car tires because it was the cheapest bottled gas I could buy in big cylinders at the welding shop. Twenty bucks' worth of nitrogen would fill enough tires for a whole weekend of endurance racing, and also would run the air wrenches that I used to change the tires. Remember, air is about 80 percent nitrogen to start with--so the difference is not profound. The balance of the volume of air is mostly oxygen, which is bad for your tires. Oxygen promotes breakdown of the rubber, so your tires should last longer with pure nitrogen. Furthermore, nitrogen molecules migrate through rubber more slowly than oxygen, so your tires should lose pressure more slowly. (I'm assuming you check your tire pressures on a regular schedule.) Another, perhaps more important, advantage to nitrogen is that the nitrogen delivered from a welding cylinder or nitrogen generator is desiccated and clean. Moisture inside a tire is bad because it causes pressure fluctuations and corrodes rims. And, I've seen lots of water come out of service-station air pumps. I generally will check the line for moisture before I use it by depressing the inflater pin with my thumbnail. If my thumb gets wet, I try to purge the line for a few seconds. There's also the potential for the compressor to force lubricating oil and garbage from the inside of the tank into the tire. Oil will further accelerate breakdown of the rubber, and dirt can be trapped in the valve core, starting a leak. Worse, some shops use automatic oilers to lubricate their air tools, adding even more oily mist to the mix. To properly use nitrogen in your tires, all of the air has to be purged, generally by the time-honored tradition of alternately filling and venting the tire. Unless the tire is broken off the rim, cleaned of moisture and debris, and remounted with a waterfree rim lubricant before purging with nitrogen, you'll miss most of the benefits. Bottom line: I'd fill new tires with nitrogen if the tire shop will do it for free or at least at a discount. Most will. But just cruising in and topping off from a nitrogen hose for 20 bucks? Save your money. I think you would be wasting your money as well.
__________________
Can you say Alooooha?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] |
Appreciate
0
|
06-09-2006, 03:52 AM | #14 | |
Captain
51
Rep 921
Posts |
Quote:
cars. NONE. Oxidation of the rubber is minimized through the tire's manufacturing process. People should start worrying about the outside, rather than the inside because by the time oxidation makes a difference on a tire, you may have changed your car not to mention the tire itself a couple of times. For the insane there are even chemicals to protect against depolymerization, fatigue, brittleness and even disintegration of a tire. The diffusion point is a moot one - people should check their tires' pressure regularly. sc.- |
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-09-2006, 04:22 AM | #15 |
Got Seoul?
116
Rep 2,862
Posts
Drives: 2012 535i MSport
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Honolulu
|
I wouldn't say that there are no uses for nitrogen but the small or minute benefit is not worth paying for. Don't know if you actually paid attention but it was a quote from a web site and I stated at the end that it was not worth it.
__________________
Can you say Alooooha?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] |
Appreciate
0
|
06-09-2006, 08:30 AM | #16 |
Major General
252
Rep 6,664
Posts |
You'd be better off taking that money and wiping yourself with it. They probably are saying to themselves, "what a stupid rich moron" every time someone does this..
Fill your tires with air, check them regularly, and you'll be all set.
__________________
E90 325XI, MYSTIC BLUE ON BLACK/ALUM, STEP, NAV, PDC, CWP, XENON, SIRIUS, ALARM, MUD GUARDS, CLEARBRA, CHROME GRILLS AND TIPS, VALENTINE 1 (HARDWIRED), HO CERAMIC 40%, 161'S, REAR FOG MOD, LUX 4.0, BLACKLINES, OEM PEDALS, MTEC FOGS, GRUPPE-M REP INTAKE. 156'S AND RUBBER MATS FOR THE WINTER. |
Appreciate
0
|
06-09-2006, 08:56 AM | #17 | |
Lieutenant
129
Rep 579
Posts |
Quote:
Exactly. Also, as mentioned above, natural air is already ~78% N2 |
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-09-2006, 09:02 AM | #18 |
Major
53
Rep 1,393
Posts
Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dallas + Chicago(Lake Forest)
|
My dealer told me to do this the other day...they wanted 50 bucks for all 4 tires... So I looked into it....and found out the autoshop across the street would do it for $16. But they were out of it. So I didn't get it and just had them check my air pressure.
Also every autobody shope made fun of me for asking for it..."Are you driving a racecar or something?" Ps I thought about putting up this thread last week but then did a search.
__________________
Retired: e46 cabrio, E36 Cabrio, 02' 525i, 325Ci 02'
Style 189 335i sport Wheels for sale PM Me BIG CHANGES COMING SOON- Can anyone help me make a sig pic? |
Appreciate
0
|
06-09-2006, 10:05 AM | #19 | |
Private
1
Rep 66
Posts |
Quote:
I know it does in the LR3 (yeah I saw the ad). |
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-09-2006, 10:15 AM | #20 |
Lieutenant General
2148
Rep 10,176
Posts |
For track and autox, it is beneficial, I have started at 37 lbs cold, and three runs later (I try to check pressure after every run, but forgot), had 52 lbs of pressure. This does not happen with nitrogen fills.
For the street, I see no benefit for it at all. |
Appreciate
0
|
06-09-2006, 10:34 AM | #21 |
Major General
571
Rep 7,519
Posts
Drives: 2009 E90 335i MT
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vinton, Virginia
|
Airplane tires are filled with nitrogen but when was the last time you drove your BMW at 33,000 feet?
__________________
2009 E90 335i Montego Blue · Black Leather · Burl Walnut · 6MT · US Spec
SatNav • ZPP • ZCW • 6FL • TPMS • iDrive • PDC • HWS • Xenons • BMW Assist • Power Rear Sunshade • Logic 7 European Taillights • Rear Foglamp • OEM Alarm • PicoTray • DataToys XM-DVR • Multi-view Processor Quaife ATB LSD • Short Shift Knob • Hartge Anti-Roll Bars • AP Racing Front Brakes • 19" Style 269 |
Appreciate
0
|
06-09-2006, 10:35 AM | #22 | |
Major General
571
Rep 7,519
Posts
Drives: 2009 E90 335i MT
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vinton, Virginia
|
Quote:
__________________
2009 E90 335i Montego Blue · Black Leather · Burl Walnut · 6MT · US Spec
SatNav • ZPP • ZCW • 6FL • TPMS • iDrive • PDC • HWS • Xenons • BMW Assist • Power Rear Sunshade • Logic 7 European Taillights • Rear Foglamp • OEM Alarm • PicoTray • DataToys XM-DVR • Multi-view Processor Quaife ATB LSD • Short Shift Knob • Hartge Anti-Roll Bars • AP Racing Front Brakes • 19" Style 269 |
|
Appreciate
0
|
Bookmarks |
|
|