Another CHEAPER AE HID option???

BSM 135i · 03-14-2010, 08:24 PM

What's up guys I came across this kit at DDM Tuning while looking on the site for D1S's and got me thinking if we could use this kit for our AE's?? It has the option of getting them with H8 bulbs, so it should work right? anyone wanna chime in on this??? They're only $50 and lifetime warranty!!!

SpacE82 · 03-14-2010, 09:54 PM

kinda makes me nervous.. an HID kit for $50?

how could it be $50 and all the other options, including LEDs be over $200.. you know what i mean? I would be kinda skeptical, but then again, I'm no expert........Simon!?!?

BSM 135i · 03-14-2010, 09:58 PM

yeah i know what you mean but there is a lifetime warranty and it is ONLY $50 so someone here might want to give them a try

SpacE82 · 03-14-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BSM 135i

yeah i know what you mean but there is a lifetime warranty and it is ONLY $50 so someone here might want to give them a try

I'll say it again...... Simon!? haha

BSM 135i · 03-14-2010, 10:02 PM

LOL, yeah where you at Simon??

BavarianMotorWorks · 03-14-2010, 10:10 PM

Hey guys I'll give you some insight into this. This will not work. The reason being is that every HID angel eye kit has an extra "custom" circuit that lets the HID kit get the power it needs.

You know how even with the stock H8 bulb, when the low beams (xenons) are turned on, the bulb dims. The circuit that is made for all the HID kits prevent the HID ballasts from getting too low of a power. If you were to plug the DDM Tuning HID kit into our cars for the angels it would work until you turn on the low beams and then it will flicker because the voltage is too low.

This is why kits like the one camaross sells needs the extra wires because it feeds power from the positive terminal in our cars. With the custom circuit in place our cars will not throw a code when we use the HID as our angel eyes.

Come to think of it I'm not sure the custom circuit is actually giving power so to say more so that we don't get a code. I'm not an expert but at least from my research into these things the DDM tuning kit alone will not work.

-Dave

BavarianMotorWorks · 03-14-2010, 10:12 PM

Oh and by the way the HID kit from DDM tuning is great. Don't worry that it is only 50 dolalrs. I helped install these in my friends EVO 9 and it came out great. His headlights are already of the projector kind so the cutoff was great and has no glare.

The great thing about his car is that there aren't fancy electronics like our cars so when you plug the DDM tuning kit into his car it gets full power all the time without a computer to intervene.

But anyway he's had it on his car for serveral months now without any problems.

BSM 135i · 03-14-2010, 10:47 PM

Oh well, I thought I found a good option for us but there you go lol, at least I know now at least that DDM Tuning is reputable. ..

BavarianMotorWorks · 03-14-2010, 10:55 PM

LOL yeah when I was looking around too I was like man DDM tuning is so cheap it must suck. But after talking to one of my friends he was like most people just think HID kits are still expensive as they once were maybe a few years back or even longer.

The point is HID kits are cheap BUT you need the proper housing for these things. It might be good for those 128i guys who don't have xenon and might buy the depot lights are coming out soon. Alot of aftermarket headlights I've seen are projector housing but don't come with an HID kit built in and the ones from DDM tuning would be a great kit to use with that.

If someone were able to build just the ciruit from the camaross kit I'm sure you would be able to plug up any HID kit and make them work as Angel eyes.

ad78 · 03-14-2010, 10:59 PM

david - can you salvage the hid bulbs? interesting $50 and you have a pair of 2 HID bulbs

and oh.. those ballast might be useful too

Simon_135i · 03-14-2010, 11:22 PM

HAHAHAHAH.... No thank you =)

BavarianMotorWorks · 03-15-2010, 12:12 AM

to ad78...

I don't know what you mean by salvage...do you mean to use them for our low beams?

The kits that are 50 dollars are not D1S. To get even the D2S it is 15 dollars more and I'm not even sure if our cars will take the D2S bulbs to be honest.

So if you're asking about buying this cheap kit to get cheap bulbs for our cars...not sure if its possible.

If you had a different question in mind I'll try to answer it once I get more clarification.

moveswiftly · 03-15-2010, 12:22 PM

These ballasts are fine but have issues at times, they would work with your angel eyes but you would need a harness + resistors to clear the errors. Like a forum member above stated that the voltage on the angel eyes drops once your stock xenons are activated. Resultingly the angel eyes running HID's WITHOUT a harness will flicker. So to fix this a harness is necessary getting power straight from the alternator. Could get a harness and have a cheaper angel eye kit

I've done it already....

ad78 · 03-15-2010, 01:46 PM

david - the reason why i ask this is because currently im running alpine HID and i like them so much. what i mean salvage is can you remove those bulbs?
on my part they worth $50 bucks. i just want those bulbs if ever my hid bulbs will run out.

BavarianMotorWorks · 03-15-2010, 03:43 PM

as long as the bulbs is of the correct connector then yeah you could do that. that is why camaross says you can change color later on because you could just buy a cheap bulb that has the correct connector and plug in new bulbs into your existing setup.

untouchableE82 · 03-15-2010, 05:37 PM

ive tried a kit like this a longgg time ago. trust me it doesnt do anything but throw errors. it will work, but it is not recommended for your headlights. the output is so bright that you can drive with only the HID AE on and still be able to see everything. i seriously do not recommend anyone using this option since for a little bit more dollar you can get something that works.
as they say you pay for what you get.
i use a regular h8 bulb and im perfectly fine with it.

BSM 135i · 03-15-2010, 08:06 PM

Are you talking about Camaross' and Alpine's also?

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Originally Posted by untouchableE82

ive tried a kit like this a longgg time ago. trust me it doesnt do anything but throw errors. it will work, but it is not recommended for your headlights. the output is so bright that you can drive with only the HID AE on and still be able to see everything. i seriously do not recommend anyone using this option since for a little bit more dollar you can get something that works.
as they say you pay for what you get.
i use a regular h8 bulb and im perfectly fine with it.

03-14-2010, 08:24 PM	#1
BSM 135i Colonel 206 Rep 2,229 Posts Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (23)	Another CHEAPER AE HID option??? What's up guys I came across this kit at DDM Tuning while looking on the site for D1S's and got me thinking if we could use this kit for our AE's?? It has the option of getting them with H8 bulbs, so it should work right? anyone wanna chime in on this??? They're only $50 and lifetime warranty!!! Last edited by BSM 135i; 03-14-2010 at 08:31 PM..
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SpacE82 Major 113 Rep 1,311 Posts Drives: 2009 M-Sport 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [8.50]	kinda makes me nervous.. an HID kit for $50? how could it be $50 and all the other options, including LEDs be over $200.. you know what i mean? I would be kinda skeptical, but then again, I'm no expert........Simon!?!?
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BSM 135i Colonel 206 Rep 2,229 Posts Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (23)	yeah i know what you mean but there is a lifetime warranty and it is ONLY $50 so someone here might want to give them a try
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BSM 135i Colonel 206 Rep 2,229 Posts Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (23)	LOL, yeah where you at Simon??
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BavarianMotorWorks Captain 68 Rep 625 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 335i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (11)	Hey guys I'll give you some insight into this. This will not work. The reason being is that every HID angel eye kit has an extra "custom" circuit that lets the HID kit get the power it needs. You know how even with the stock H8 bulb, when the low beams (xenons) are turned on, the bulb dims. The circuit that is made for all the HID kits prevent the HID ballasts from getting too low of a power. If you were to plug the DDM Tuning HID kit into our cars for the angels it would work until you turn on the low beams and then it will flicker because the voltage is too low. This is why kits like the one camaross sells needs the extra wires because it feeds power from the positive terminal in our cars. With the custom circuit in place our cars will not throw a code when we use the HID as our angel eyes. Come to think of it I'm not sure the custom circuit is actually giving power so to say more so that we don't get a code. I'm not an expert but at least from my research into these things the DDM tuning kit alone will not work. -Dave
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03-14-2010, 10:12 PM	#7
BavarianMotorWorks Captain 68 Rep 625 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 335i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (11)	Oh and by the way the HID kit from DDM tuning is great. Don't worry that it is only 50 dolalrs. I helped install these in my friends EVO 9 and it came out great. His headlights are already of the projector kind so the cutoff was great and has no glare. The great thing about his car is that there aren't fancy electronics like our cars so when you plug the DDM tuning kit into his car it gets full power all the time without a computer to intervene. But anyway he's had it on his car for serveral months now without any problems.
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03-14-2010, 10:47 PM	#8
BSM 135i Colonel 206 Rep 2,229 Posts Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (23)	Oh well, I thought I found a good option for us but there you go lol, at least I know now at least that DDM Tuning is reputable. ..
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03-14-2010, 10:55 PM	#9
BavarianMotorWorks Captain 68 Rep 625 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 335i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (11)	LOL yeah when I was looking around too I was like man DDM tuning is so cheap it must suck. But after talking to one of my friends he was like most people just think HID kits are still expensive as they once were maybe a few years back or even longer. The point is HID kits are cheap BUT you need the proper housing for these things. It might be good for those 128i guys who don't have xenon and might buy the depot lights are coming out soon. Alot of aftermarket headlights I've seen are projector housing but don't come with an HID kit built in and the ones from DDM tuning would be a great kit to use with that. If someone were able to build just the ciruit from the camaross kit I'm sure you would be able to plug up any HID kit and make them work as Angel eyes.
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03-14-2010, 10:59 PM	#10
ad78 Yr1OfD1 106 Rep 900 Posts Drives: 2015 F34 M Sport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (1)	david - can you salvage the hid bulbs? interesting $50 and you have a pair of 2 HID bulbs and oh.. those ballast might be useful too
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03-14-2010, 11:22 PM	#11
Simon_135i Collecting dust! 55 Rep 2,009 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego iTrader: (8) Garage List 2008 E82/135i [0.00]	HAHAHAHAH.... No thank you =)
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03-15-2010, 12:12 AM	#12
BavarianMotorWorks Captain 68 Rep 625 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 335i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (11)	to ad78... I don't know what you mean by salvage...do you mean to use them for our low beams? The kits that are 50 dollars are not D1S. To get even the D2S it is 15 dollars more and I'm not even sure if our cars will take the D2S bulbs to be honest. So if you're asking about buying this cheap kit to get cheap bulbs for our cars...not sure if its possible. If you had a different question in mind I'll try to answer it once I get more clarification.
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moveswiftly Colonel 381 Rep 2,926 Posts Drives: Cayman GT4, 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (12) Garage List 2012 335iS [0.00]	These ballasts are fine but have issues at times, they would work with your angel eyes but you would need a harness + resistors to clear the errors. Like a forum member above stated that the voltage on the angel eyes drops once your stock xenons are activated. Resultingly the angel eyes running HID's WITHOUT a harness will flicker. So to fix this a harness is necessary getting power straight from the alternator. Could get a harness and have a cheaper angel eye kit I've done it already.... __________________ Current: M2CS Gone but not forgotten: Cayman GT4, M2C, 2011 135i, E83 X3 6MT, 2016 SO M3, 2012 335iS, 2010 135i and 2006 e90 325xi
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ad78 Yr1OfD1 106 Rep 900 Posts Drives: 2015 F34 M Sport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (1)	david - the reason why i ask this is because currently im running alpine HID and i like them so much. what i mean salvage is can you remove those bulbs? on my part they worth $50 bucks. i just want those bulbs if ever my hid bulbs will run out.
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03-15-2010, 03:43 PM	#15
BavarianMotorWorks Captain 68 Rep 625 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 335i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (11)	as long as the bulbs is of the correct connector then yeah you could do that. that is why camaross says you can change color later on because you could just buy a cheap bulb that has the correct connector and plug in new bulbs into your existing setup.
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untouchableE82 1Addict, and Proud 88 Rep 1,024 Posts Drives: 2008 modified 135i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	ive tried a kit like this a longgg time ago. trust me it doesnt do anything but throw errors. it will work, but it is not recommended for your headlights. the output is so bright that you can drive with only the HID AE on and still be able to see everything. i seriously do not recommend anyone using this option since for a little bit more dollar you can get something that works. as they say you pay for what you get. i use a regular h8 bulb and im perfectly fine with it. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] the old look: bmw performance http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299703 the new look: Widebody 135i http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...98#post7686798
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