Need Help deciding best Tuner for 135i

RedDevil135i · 01-16-2014, 06:05 AM

Hello everyone, I have searched the forums in hopes of seeing what would be the best route for a tune. I have a 09 135i, BMS DP-catless, HPF FMIC, BERK Axel back. I want to run a Meth Kit pretty soon. In all forums I've looked some people have certain things and some don't. Since I do have all the bolt ons required. What tuner should I go with?

Echoknight · 01-16-2014, 07:05 AM

Procede, JB4, or COBB. Personally i like the JB4 however, i hear good things about all of the above.

Stan.mac · 01-16-2014, 10:31 AM

You cant go wrong with any of them, personally I like Cobb.

LAZ · 01-16-2014, 12:32 PM

JB4

BavarianN54 · 01-16-2014, 01:30 PM

Coming up to the end of my warranty and Im debating the same thing now. Currently I have the PPK but looking for more, as of now Im leaning Cobb.

RedDevil135i · 01-16-2014, 07:50 PM

In a freakish way, i met the previos owner of the car, he told me he already had it tuned to Cobb? Is it possible to get the JB4 with it already having been tuned?

sparkyblue · 01-16-2014, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDevil135i

In a freakish way, i met the previos owner of the car, he told me he already had it tuned to Cobb? Is it possible to get the JB4 with it already having been tuned?

Yes. but you should return the car back to it's stock map using the Cobb. then install the JB4

RedDevil135i · 01-16-2014, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sparkyblue

Yes. but you should return the car back to it's stock map using the Cobb. then install the JB4

Thats the worst part the dealership i got the car "didnt" get a Cobb with it! and the previous owner told me he had in the glovebox... so am i screwed?

MuNkY6913 · 01-16-2014, 10:38 PM

Dd you ask the previous owner if he flashed it back to stock before turn in? I'm not sure a dealer would take it if the ecu doesn't check out. If you asked and he didn't then I would think you would have to get another Cobb. I have an 09 as well and have the jb4 with back end flash. Runs great. And the back end flash is free if you have a bt cable. I would say get a bt cable (either buy or borrow) and a jb4 then go through the whole setup involved with the backend flash. That way you save the flash currently on the car which you know works. Then flash the BMS pump backend flash and install jb4 g5 iso. Then your ready for meth and applicable flash. After a new charge pipe that is. I'm going to be installing inline fuel pump to run 60% E85 and installing a meth kit soon as well. It's all sitting in the basement waiting for some warm wether. Then I'll flash the E85 or race map to the car. Which are also FREE. right now I'm running the pump gas flash and it feels great. If you find yourself in the middle of PA anytime soon I'll let you use my cable. Don't see that happening but you never know. Good luck!

Chedo · 01-17-2014, 05:35 PM

I've been running the Procede Rev2 since I bought the car brand new in 2009. Never had a problem with it and it runs well.
Looking to upgrade to Rev3 only because I'm wanting to install a flex fuel sensor to support E85

BavarianN54 · 01-17-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chedo

I've been running the Procede Rev2 since I bought the car brand new in 2009. Never had a problem with it and it runs well.
Looking to upgrade to Rev3 only because I'm wanting to install a flex fuel sensor to support E85

Did you dyno? I'm curious about your numbers.

Chedo · 01-18-2014, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BavarianN54

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Originally Posted by Chedo

I've been running the Procede Rev2 since I bought the car brand new in 2009. Never had a problem with it and it runs well.
Looking to upgrade to Rev3 only because I'm wanting to install a flex fuel sensor to support E85

Did you dyno? I'm curious about your numbers.

Yep on the dyno it ran 265kwatw with the following mods:
ER FMIC, ER charge pipe, ER dump pipe, tial BOV, BMW performance exhaust, AFE dual cons, procede rev2.
All running on standard pump fuel.

MuNkY6913 · 01-18-2014, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chedo

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Originally Posted by BavarianN54

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Originally Posted by Chedo

I've been running the Procede Rev2 since I bought the car brand new in 2009. Never had a problem with it and it runs well.
Looking to upgrade to Rev3 only because I'm wanting to install a flex fuel sensor to support E85

Did you dyno? I'm curious about your numbers.

Yep on the dyno it ran 265kwatw with the following mods:
ER FMIC, ER charge pipe, ER dump pipe, tial BOV, BMW performance exhaust, AFE dual cons, procede rev2.
All running on standard pump fuel.

What does 265kwatw convert to?
EDIT: never mind. I looked it up. That's about 360hp at the wheels. I have cxracing fmic, ER charge pipe, BMS catless downpipes, berk tech race axleback, with pump 93 octane and jb4 g5 iso. Can run E85 as is. I had it on the dyno last summer while I kept getting ses light all summer due to o2 sensor problem and misfires i still hit 383whp and 427wtq. Since sorting out the misfires and o2 sensors it feels even better. And the free backend flash made it feel smoother. I'm JB4 all the way. Love the power increase and the steering wheel map switching and gauge high jacking is great. Go jb4 iso and don't look back! It only keeps getting better. The free updates keep fine tuning the car.

RedDevil135i · 01-18-2014, 02:43 AM

Okay so far everyone can agree the jb4 is the best tuner to go with when I plan on adding meth kit? Also does anyone here have any idea realistically how much hp to the wheels I can expect without the meth kit? I have every single bolt installed in the car. I haven searched the forums to see dynos but I can't really seem to find any exact number.... Last part lol does anyone know/is selling a jb4?

MuNkY6913 · 01-18-2014, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RedDevil135i

Okay so far everyone can agree the jb4 is the best tuner to go with when I plan on adding meth kit? Also does anyone here have any idea realistically how much hp to the wheels I can expect without the meth kit? I have every single bolt installed in the car. I haven searched the forums to see dynos but I can't really seem to find any exact number.... Last part lol does anyone know/is selling a jb4?

Numbers very based on what dyno you used. I've seen, in my opinion, some very inflated numbers with full bolt on and jb4. If you wait a week or two there will be a couple for sale. Check the N54 forums too. People usually post that stuff there more.

Mit_Boost · 01-23-2014, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RedDevil135i

In a freakish way, i met the previos owner of the car, he told me he already had it tuned to Cobb? Is it possible to get the JB4 with it already having been tuned?

You should probably confirm whether or not a COBB map is installed. Just find someone with a stock car and line them up. The JB4 comes with the "maps" preinstalled in the piggyback, so you just go through your gauges and select a setting.

If you're looking to go max (safe) power, you will need a flash tune to adjust your fueling & ignition tables (something the JB4 or PROcede isn't capable of doing alone). I'm running just a COBB PROtune, FBO on Stock Turbos, little over 400 WHP on 93 and 450 on straight E85

1ndonlySG · 01-24-2014, 03:37 AM

Can't wrong with either jb, Cobb or Vishnu , but I personally would go for Jb! Let us know what you decide!

01-16-2014, 06:05 AM	#1
RedDevil135i New Member 3 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Saint Louis, MO iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [0.00]	Need Help deciding best Tuner for 135i Hello everyone, I have searched the forums in hopes of seeing what would be the best route for a tune. I have a 09 135i, BMS DP-catless, HPF FMIC, BERK Axel back. I want to run a Meth Kit pretty soon. In all forums I've looked some people have certain things and some don't. Since I do have all the bolt ons required. What tuner should I go with? __________________ 09 135i BMS DP, HPF FMIC, BERK Axle-Back Performance Exhaust with Sport Mufflers. GA1R Forged Wheels 18'
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Echoknight Echo335i 162 Rep 231 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Virginia Beach iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335i [5.00]	Procede, JB4, or COBB. Personally i like the JB4 however, i hear good things about all of the above. __________________ N54\| CUSTOM Single Turbo\| Meth CM10 100%\| CXRacing Turbo GT3582R \| BMS Back End Flash \| Custom 450 LPFP \| 335is clutch / SMFW \|3.5 TMAP \| Anti-lag \| 2 Step\| NLS\|Boost by Gear\|JB4
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Stan.mac Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 296 Posts Drives: 135i M-Sport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NoVA iTrader: (3)	You cant go wrong with any of them, personally I like Cobb. __________________ "I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Nothing else matters: not the mortgage, not the store, not my team and all their bullshit. For those ten seconds or less, I'm free." afe DCI/Greddy Oil Catch Can/Catless DP/ Cobb Stage 2+/Berk Axle-Back(Race)/AAW CP w BOV/H&R Springs/ ALPINA Flash/Helix FMIC/
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LAZ OneThirty5Eye 105 Rep 250 Posts Drives: 135i, 335i Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: San Antonio, TX iTrader: (0)	JB4 __________________ FACEBOOK.COM/GROUPS/EUROTIC JB4 G5//BMS DCI//BMS 3" CATELESS DP//BMS Meth Kit//BMS Backend Race Flash//Alpina B3 Flash// Walbro 450lpfp//Yokohama SDrive//BMS SLD//N55 Midpipes//Vibrant Performance Resonators
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BavarianN54 Banned 6 Rep 203 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Coming up to the end of my warranty and Im debating the same thing now. Currently I have the PPK but looking for more, as of now Im leaning Cobb.
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RedDevil135i New Member 3 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Saint Louis, MO iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [0.00]	In a freakish way, i met the previos owner of the car, he told me he already had it tuned to Cobb? Is it possible to get the JB4 with it already having been tuned? __________________ 09 135i BMS DP, HPF FMIC, BERK Axle-Back Performance Exhaust with Sport Mufflers. GA1R Forged Wheels 18'
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01-16-2014, 10:38 PM	#9
MuNkY6913 The Crowing 111 Rep 2,005 Posts Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: State College, PA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2009 135i [8.00]	Dd you ask the previous owner if he flashed it back to stock before turn in? I'm not sure a dealer would take it if the ecu doesn't check out. If you asked and he didn't then I would think you would have to get another Cobb. I have an 09 as well and have the jb4 with back end flash. Runs great. And the back end flash is free if you have a bt cable. I would say get a bt cable (either buy or borrow) and a jb4 then go through the whole setup involved with the backend flash. That way you save the flash currently on the car which you know works. Then flash the BMS pump backend flash and install jb4 g5 iso. Then your ready for meth and applicable flash. After a new charge pipe that is. I'm going to be installing inline fuel pump to run 60% E85 and installing a meth kit soon as well. It's all sitting in the basement waiting for some warm wether. Then I'll flash the E85 or race map to the car. Which are also FREE. right now I'm running the pump gas flash and it feels great. If you find yourself in the middle of PA anytime soon I'll let you use my cable. Don't see that happening but you never know. Good luck! __________________ 2009 135i : BMS JB4 G5 ISO,CXRacing FMIC Kit,Injen Cold Air Intake,Evolution Raceworks Charge Pipe,Walboro Inline Fuel Pump, E85 BMS Backend Flash w/ 60% E85,BMS Meth injection (trunkmount),BMS dual meth nozzles,Spec stage 2+ clutch w/ steel SWFW,BMS Catless Downpipes,Berk Tech Race Axleback
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Chedo New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	I've been running the Procede Rev2 since I bought the car brand new in 2009. Never had a problem with it and it runs well. Looking to upgrade to Rev3 only because I'm wanting to install a flex fuel sensor to support E85
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RedDevil135i New Member 3 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Saint Louis, MO iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [0.00]	Okay so far everyone can agree the jb4 is the best tuner to go with when I plan on adding meth kit? Also does anyone here have any idea realistically how much hp to the wheels I can expect without the meth kit? I have every single bolt installed in the car. I haven searched the forums to see dynos but I can't really seem to find any exact number.... Last part lol does anyone know/is selling a jb4? __________________ 09 135i BMS DP, HPF FMIC, BERK Axle-Back Performance Exhaust with Sport Mufflers. GA1R Forged Wheels 18'
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01-24-2014, 03:37 AM	#17
1ndonlySG Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 248 Posts Drives: Space Grey / Coral Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California iTrader: (-2)	Can't wrong with either jb, Cobb or Vishnu , but I personally would go for Jb! Let us know what you decide!
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