Dealer didnt disclose major repairs on car before I purchased...

[parnet]

There's a place in Mt Pleasent called Exclusviely Bimmers. I sold my Z3 to a guy who wanted to have it checked out. They checked it out in 1/2 hour and charged $60. Here's their website. i was impressed with them and will have them work on mine when the warranty runs out
www.exclusivelybimmers.com

[ejm3]

I would say it couldn't hurt to get the thing checked out.

[1911A145]

Originally Posted by Dubbedown

Replied in your other thread...

No compensation. You either take the deal or not. In my opinion it would only affect your selling price if it showed up as an accident on vehicle history. If not, it'd be no different than warranty/service work (even though it was not either of the two).

And since you are leasing, does it really matter? Why would you sell or trade after your lease is up? You don't own it... you just have the option to buy it so if anything DON'T exercise the buyout and you're fine.

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Frankly... I would give them back the keys and refuse to sign and have them return any money you have them and find a new dealer if it bothers you that much. Major body work? Yes... Then I could see stomping your feet and demanding compensation and getting upset. Intercooler, Oil cooler, engine related parts? Nah... That isnt going to affect resale of the vehicle like you think it is... But if they are having you a paper stating the work was done I would pull the carfax and make sure it isnt on the carfax. If it is, and you choose to buy the car, then the resale is going to go down a grand or two.

[Charleston335]

Yeah it doesnt bother me too much but it bothers me that they probably knew about it then didnt mention it thinking i would sign it after i signed the lease so they will have to hear from me at the least. Can anyone run a carfax for me please? Wbaun7c55cvm25625

[onehungevo]

I would have them take the car back and find another one or tell them you want the same deal on a new one. The salesmen gets paid based on your survey response.

[ken1137]

Due to the circumstances have them agree to pay for a pre-paid-inspection (PPI) at a local shop. Then if all checks out keep the car if you like it since you dont have plans on buying it. You might be able to discuss 'diminished value' of the car due to the unreported accident to obtain a lower lease payment. GL

[ken1137]

Originally Posted by Charleston335

Yeah it doesnt bother me too much but it bothers me that they probably knew about it then didnt mention it thinking i would sign it after i signed the lease so they will have to hear from me at the least. Can anyone run a carfax for me please? Wbaun7c55cvm25625

The dealer should provide this to you...I would call and demand this even though the accident may not show up.

[Mark16q]

The fact that you don't plan on keeping the car is irrelevant imo. Lucky for them, but no reason that you should have a car that is potentially worth less than you thought. I've sold leased cars that held their value and made money rather than turning them in.If the accident is disclosed on carfax or evident in inspection or a review of service records, etc good luck selling the car. Your only option would be to turn it in.

Another poster here commented about offering to return the car and having them give you the same deal on an accident free car. Would they be willing to do that? Probably not.

At a minimum, I'd want them to pay for an independent shop to do an inspection, a clean carfax in hand, and PPK1 / whatever else you can get out of it. That's going to be cheaper than taking the car back and doubt they'd so no. I'm not a fan of taking what I'm not entitled to, but they are trying to slide one by on you, and you should either get some compensation for it or move on. If you knew, would you have leased this car?

I'm not a lawyer, but based on a prior similar experience, they wanted that signature from me badly (mine had mileage stated wrong by 5 miles). Obviously I had no problem signing off on that, but they were REALLY nice to me over something this minor.

Good luck, and glad you're enjoying the vert!

mg

[Charleston335]

Here is what the BMW manager has sent me:


Lewis,

I hope all is well. I see the conversation that you have had with Dan about the damage that was done to your BMW 135 CV. I understand that you are looking for some kind of compensation. I can offer you one of two things; 1. HAG Extended Service Agreement - This will take care of any concerns of repairs (suspension) later down the road.
2. BMW 101 experience - drive up the night before. Stay at a nice hotel. The next day you get to drive on the track in Spartanburg, tour the plant and museum and will close the day with some hot laps.

As you can see we are trying to keep you happy. Let me know what time you will stop by.

[Diver]

Originally Posted by ejm3

That's what I thought. If you're ok with the car I wouldn't sign unless they extended the warranty at their expense. Or maybe gave me a free PPK!

I like that idea.

[Charleston335]

Im getting a JB stage 1 or 2 so the PPK1 I think would be pointless? Or I'm going to ask for tire and wheel warranty or lower payments...

[hyphy1]

only hurts you if you intend to try to sell the vehicle in the future, and they see that in the vehicle history report.

[pinmagic]

Originally Posted by Charleston335

Here is what the BMW manager has sent me:


Lewis,

I hope all is well. I see the conversation that you have had with Dan about the damage that was done to your BMW 135 CV. I understand that you are looking for some kind of compensation. I can offer you one of two things; 1. HAG Extended Service Agreement - This will take care of any concerns of repairs (suspension) later down the road.
2. BMW 101 experience - drive up the night before. Stay at a nice hotel. The next day you get to drive on the track in Spartanburg, tour the plant and museum and will close the day with some hot laps.

As you can see we are trying to keep you happy. Let me know what time you will stop by.

Be careful with those 3rd party extended service agreements - generally, they have tons of exclusions. Why doesn't he offer you the BMW extended service agreement?

If it were me, I'd turn the car back and walk away. You just don't know what you're getting into.

[ptack]

Originally Posted by Charleston335

Im getting a JB stage 1 or 2 so the PPK1 I think would be pointless? Or I'm going to ask for tire and wheel warranty or lower payments...

I wouldn't do that on a leased car that you have argued with the Dealer over. They could very well serve you some payback if you come in with a problem and they find evidence of an aftermarker tune. You will have no legs to stand on.

[ldogaigga]

Just walk away. Not worth what they are offering you.

[135iMike]

Walk away - You don't want someone else's junk. They're offering you compensation that isn't equal to what has happened.

I think of it this way:

You're at a dealership, ordering your new 135i.. You're piecing it together and the guy goes. Oh wait, before you get this car, it's going to smack a curb and replace over 4k worth of parts, and you get it at the same price! You don't mind, right?

Something could be slightly bent, twisted, stressed.. etc.

Pretty sure that's grounds for a price reduction... but even so, I'd walk away and pick up another ride.

[SHFT]

Originally Posted by Charleston335

Here is what the BMW manager has sent me:


Lewis,

I hope all is well. I see the conversation that you have had with Dan about the damage that was done to your BMW 135 CV. I understand that you are looking for some kind of compensation. I can offer you one of two things; 1. HAG Extended Service Agreement - This will take care of any concerns of repairs (suspension) later down the road.
2. BMW 101 experience - drive up the night before. Stay at a nice hotel. The next day you get to drive on the track in Spartanburg, tour the plant and museum and will close the day with some hot laps.

As you can see we are trying to keep you happy. Let me know what time you will stop by.

The BMW 101 experience is offered to any new purchase agreement FYI. If you return the car to the dealership calling the deal off it will put the dealership into action to accommodate your wishes for some sort of beneficiary compensation. All in all tho your just leasing the car so unless your planning on purchasing the car after the lease end the battle your choosing to pick is strictly based off getting something for nothing. i dig it

[Xtian]

if you're leasing and it's all covered under warranty and you're simply dropping it back off at the dealership when you're done then....

Who cares?

I wouldn't give them any subsequent business on accounts of them being shady.

Unless they give you a good reach around.

Of course.

[pinmagic]

To everyone saying "you're only leasing it" - ever had a problem car? It's not fun. Trip after trip to the dealer, trying to fix something they just can't seem to fix. Ugh.

[BuddhaPilot]

Originally Posted by pinmagic

To everyone saying "you're only leasing it" - ever had a problem car? It's not fun. Trip after trip to the dealer, trying to fix something they just can't seem to fix. Ugh.

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[Charleston335]

I got them to offer me tire and wheel warranty, i had this on my 335 and well worth as they replaced 3 tires and 3 rims.

[Cemoto]

Originally Posted by onehungevo

I would have them take the car back and find another one or tell them you want the same deal on a new one.

Think about this - WHY would they want you to sign? It's because they anticipate problems down the road and don't want responsibility for them.

IMHO you're nuts if you sign.

I'd want a new car.

Don't let the excitement sway your good judgment.

How does a "full disclosure" dealer let you drive off the lot w/o you signing?

Then they have the balls to ask you to come back and sign?

Sorry, but you got fk'd and your crazy if you sign.

Good luck!