Dinan vs. cobb. vs procede...

NORAGRETS · 05-05-2013, 07:26 PM

I know this has been discussed before...but please help a brother decide

obviously price is the biggest thing between dinan and cobb/procede...

ilikebmxbikes · 05-05-2013, 07:30 PM

Cobb.

Tommeh · 05-05-2013, 08:15 PM

I had a JB4, and sold it.... Im going Cobb.

NORAGRETS · 05-05-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommeh

I had a JB4, and sold it.... Im going Cobb.

any specific reason? also interested in jb4...but i like the idea of flash better than piggyback

SfValley335i · 05-05-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Twhill19

any specific reason? also interested in jb4...but i like the idea of flash better than piggyback

procede is a piggyback.

I've had, Jb4, Procede and Cobb. If you want something easy to install, set and forget type of thing, get a Cobb.

If your out to get max hp and be the quickest on the block. Get a Jb4 and a Cobb to do the BMS flash.

If you got a older car, and dont like spending money on small things like spark plugs, coil packs or fuel injectors, then stay away from Jb4. If you run a Jb4 on a car thats not well maintained, then you'll have issues and blame it on the Jb4.

Vigilante375 · 05-05-2013, 09:50 PM

N54 gets better power from a Cobb (as I've read). N55 gets better power from a JB4 as there is nothing for a 2012+ 135i from Cobb unless it's some early model 2012s can use Cobb but I haven't looked to deep since they released it for the 2011 N55 a couple months back.

But if you want true power from a real tune then go to a professional, well known local tuner. Remember though, it'll void your warranty but he'll be able to make more and better power than JB4/Cobb/Procede can as he can set it to where you want it.

wjk_glynn · 05-05-2013, 09:57 PM

You should throw GIAC in the pot...

From: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=374508

Karl.

EINSER M · 05-05-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikebmxbikes

Cobb.

+1 COBB pro tune

bmw0bsession · 05-05-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Twhill19

any specific reason? also interested in jb4...but i like the idea of flash better than piggyback

I have Cobb for the reason that it is SUPER easy to remove and install. You just plug it in and start to load the map and it saves your stock map to the unit and you can back it up on your computer. You can also hook it up to your computer and upload stage 2 maps or whatever maps are released. Going from stock to Stage 1 is night and day. I now run stage 2 and sometimes Stage 1+ FMIC. While you drive you can also see on the COBB AP live data like boost, intake temp, RPM, etc. It also has a built in shift light lol. Its awesome man, worth the money in my opinion! For the record I seen up to 14-15psi in Stage 1+ and it tapers to about 9-10 at higher RPM, it makes me happy

Colt · 05-05-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikebmxbikes

Cobb ProTune.

Freon · 05-05-2013, 10:47 PM

The spreadsheet is hopelessly out of date. Cobb released the AccessTuner Race which allows you to hand touch dozens of tables in the ECU. It's really for advanced users, but it could be on that spreadsheet as dozens of feature checkboxes that the other devices don't have.

The logging is excellent as well. You can record something like 18 parameters at like 30hz+ which is reallly good. You can see exactly what is going on, and its built in to the AP device itself. No laptop required, no extra purchases. Load the CSV in whatever to analyze.

I wouldn't even think to consider any reflash where you have to take it somewhere or remove your ECU and mail it somewhere.

NORAGRETS · 05-06-2013, 01:01 AM

I should add that I have an N55 and have been waiting since I bought the car last May (2012) for Cobb to release an AP for my DME version...cobb was always my first choice and I even cleared it with my dealer who said they would continue to work on it in warranty regardless of the tune.

jsmonet · 05-06-2013, 01:57 AM

Had Cobb been out for me I would have an AP and protune. Since that didn't happen...see sig

NORAGRETS · 05-06-2013, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jsmonet

Had Cobb been out for me I would have an AP and protune. Since that didn't happen...see sig

have you dynoed the dinan? want to see if their numbers stack up with additional mods

SalemChiro · 05-06-2013, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Twhill19

...cobb was always my first choice and I even cleared it with my dealer who said they would continue to work on it in warranty regardless of the tune.

Twhill....what dealer are you using? I bet some other local guys would like to know which dealer is mod friendly!

My vote is Cobb and a ProTune from BrenTuning....you'll be very happy!

P7X · 05-06-2013, 09:36 AM

+1 for Cobb (N54) but I think some Protuning is needed to get the most out of it.

NORAGRETS · 05-06-2013, 06:04 PM

pretty unanimous cobb approval haha

NORAGRETS · 05-08-2013, 03:47 PM

has anyone done dinan stage 3 with oil cooler?

smellyborrelli · 05-08-2013, 04:21 PM

Love my cobb, i cant run the 93 map yet because my coils seem to fail.. but even the 91 stage 2+ map is awesome and i love being able to Datalog and check codes so easily... also its super easy to uninstall for a dealer visit.. eventually ill get a pro-tune... jb4 just doesnt compete with these things imo

Adam135 · 05-08-2013, 04:55 PM

Cobb

Onezie · 05-08-2013, 05:16 PM

I had Cobb on my evoX, now I have Cobb on my 135. OTS maps are good but I can't wait to get a protune with this car as I did my X. Easy to use, great customer service, and the monitoring aspect is a plus as well.

blutattoo · 05-08-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Twhill19

has anyone done dinan stage 3 with oil cooler?

N55 Stage 3 here with oil cooler/FMIC with no other mods car made 311-317hp 374-379 ft. lbs torque on a dynojet dyno. It actually made less power with the BMS intake so I took it off.

The car is obviously quicker than stock, but I think the the advertised hp numbers from Dinan are way over stated. Torque seems to be as advertised though. Car pulls like a demon in every gear as long as your above 2k.

As for drivability it is spot on. Zero flat spots, zero issues with limp mode, very consistent on the track and street.

I wish it was cheaper, but I'd do it again if I had the chance.

05-05-2013, 07:26 PM	#1
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Tommeh Lieutenant 56 Rep 481 Posts Drives: 96 BMW M3 & 16 GMC Canyon Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Washington iTrader: (0)	I had a JB4, and sold it.... Im going Cobb.
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05-05-2013, 09:50 PM	#6
Vigilante375 Major 116 Rep 1,158 Posts Drives: 2012 AW 6M 135i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: WA iTrader: (0)	N54 gets better power from a Cobb (as I've read). N55 gets better power from a JB4 as there is nothing for a 2012+ 135i from Cobb unless it's some early model 2012s can use Cobb but I haven't looked to deep since they released it for the 2011 N55 a couple months back. But if you want true power from a real tune then go to a professional, well known local tuner. Remember though, it'll void your warranty but he'll be able to make more and better power than JB4/Cobb/Procede can as he can set it to where you want it.
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05-05-2013, 09:57 PM	#7
wjk_glynn Lieutenant 167 Rep 403 Posts Drives: 997.2 C2S Coupé Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (0)	You should throw GIAC in the pot... From: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=374508 Karl.
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05-05-2013, 10:47 PM	#11
Freon Major 81 Rep 1,051 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis iTrader: (3)	The spreadsheet is hopelessly out of date. Cobb released the AccessTuner Race which allows you to hand touch dozens of tables in the ECU. It's really for advanced users, but it could be on that spreadsheet as dozens of feature checkboxes that the other devices don't have. The logging is excellent as well. You can record something like 18 parameters at like 30hz+ which is reallly good. You can see exactly what is going on, and its built in to the AP device itself. No laptop required, no extra purchases. Load the CSV in whatever to analyze. I wouldn't even think to consider any reflash where you have to take it somewhere or remove your ECU and mail it somewhere. __________________ 2009 BMW 135i 6MT Sport, AFE intake, Cobb AP, Apex 18x8.5+9.5, 255/275 PSS
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05-06-2013, 01:01 AM	#12
NORAGRETS Colonel 441 Rep 2,034 Posts Drives: 2017 F80 M3 ZCP BSM 2012 E82 1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M3 ZCP LCI [0.00]	I should add that I have an N55 and have been waiting since I bought the car last May (2012) for Cobb to release an AP for my DME version...cobb was always my first choice and I even cleared it with my dealer who said they would continue to work on it in warranty regardless of the tune.
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05-06-2013, 01:57 AM	#13
jsmonet Captain 302 Rep 913 Posts Drives: 2020 x7 m50i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: so cal iTrader: (2)	Had Cobb been out for me I would have an AP and protune. Since that didn't happen...see sig __________________ 2020 bmw xHippo, v8tt edition
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05-06-2013, 09:36 AM	#16
P7X Lieutenant 70 Rep 527 Posts Drives: 2016 M235i 6MT Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0)	+1 for Cobb (N54) but I think some Protuning is needed to get the most out of it.
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NORAGRETS Colonel 441 Rep 2,034 Posts Drives: 2017 F80 M3 ZCP BSM 2012 E82 1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M3 ZCP LCI [0.00]	pretty unanimous cobb approval haha
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NORAGRETS Colonel 441 Rep 2,034 Posts Drives: 2017 F80 M3 ZCP BSM 2012 E82 1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M3 ZCP LCI [0.00]	has anyone done dinan stage 3 with oil cooler?
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05-08-2013, 04:21 PM	#19
smellyborrelli Lieutenant 45 Rep 532 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: south jersey iTrader: (3)	Love my cobb, i cant run the 93 map yet because my coils seem to fail.. but even the 91 stage 2+ map is awesome and i love being able to Datalog and check codes so easily... also its super easy to uninstall for a dealer visit.. eventually ill get a pro-tune... jb4 just doesnt compete with these things imo
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05-08-2013, 04:55 PM	#20
Adam135 Captain 72 Rep 961 Posts Drives: 2014 435i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	Cobb
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05-08-2013, 05:16 PM	#21
Onezie Private First Class 9 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 09 135i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: MD/VA iTrader: (1)	I had Cobb on my evoX, now I have Cobb on my 135. OTS maps are good but I can't wait to get a protune with this car as I did my X. Easy to use, great customer service, and the monitoring aspect is a plus as well.
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