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      01-02-2006, 07:21 PM   #67
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Exactly, they are the lightest cars in their category, and comparing them with previous-generation cars is pointless because the weight increase has been overcome by additional power. Numbers don't lie. It's people that don't know how to read properly.
there's a large group that have no comprehension that weight can affect cornering and braking as well.

you can overcome the 0-60 disadvantage, but weight hurts more than just straight line acceleration


do you think a 5000 pound car with 500 hp would be fun,
not as much fun as a 3000 pound car with 300 hp
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This whole thread should be killed. What a waste of bandwidth...
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try telling that to your wife or significant other....!
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Hey retard.... try naming some that have 4 doors and are remotly in the E90 class ...!

Corvette ..???? LOL Your compairing a Vette to a 3 series ...?
w00t for personal attacks!!

how bout a E46 why not right?
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      01-02-2006, 07:46 PM   #71
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As always, please refrain from personal attacks as per the forum posting rules - http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3735

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Take the 400 pounds of crap out of the trunk.
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then it wouldnt be 50/50?
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I am curious, BMW cars are always heavy e.g. my ex-E36, I thought we all know that ? Okay, yes, Fck E90 , you need a M3 CSL. Or if you have money, there are plenty of aftermarket carbon fibre components that you can replace. e.g. hood. If you have no money to buy carbon fibre or a M3 CSL , just stop complaining okay.
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then it wouldnt be 50/50?
LOL!
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I agree that the weight is fine.
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Hey the engine is a first, Magnesium Aloy built. Thats gotta shave a few lbs off, not to mention the countless aluminum components used all throughout the car. Ideal placement of the engine gives our cars an almost perfect front:rear weight ratio.
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there's a large group that have no comprehension that weight can affect cornering and braking as well.

you can overcome the 0-60 disadvantage, but weight hurts more than just straight line acceleration

do you think a 5000 pound car with 500 hp would be fun,
not as much fun as a 3000 pound car with 300 hp
The E90 brakes faster than the E46. They just improved on breaking as well, and the handling is great. Also, I said the car was light for its class.

If you want to compare it to a Lotus Elise and mix up oranges with apples, have it your way, but for the ultimate lightweight vehicule, may I suggest the tricycle?
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Maybe it's just a temperament issue, but my take on this thread is: Wouldn't it be nice if the E90 was lighter? Not: The E90 is a fat hog that cannot get out of its own way (even when the trunk eats ice cream...). Most of us agree that the E90 is a spectacular car that has an excellent power/weight ratio for its class, but that there always is room for improvement.

I do not get the adipose wars this thread stimulated. Hangovers?
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it's not just the E90, as we add luxury features and safety features all cars get heavier

when you look at motorcycles for comparison, a 10 year old bike weighs more and has much less HP than a current bike Bikes are getting more powerfull AND lighter. Car weights have been on the rise for years, and thankfully HP has come along with that but it's just that technology is focused on different areas compared with bikes.

I don't think the E90 in particular is the guilty party, it's all cars in general that are too fat. The solution would be to have a 1 series available in the 2700 lb range with 225 hp (or more)
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Of course you could use aluminium for the frame, carbon fiber for the body, slimmer wheels and tires, plastic for the rear window, remove sound insulation, and what would you get? A car that would racket like an EVO for the price of an M5.
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I just can't comprehend how people aren't for lighter cars

The E90's not a pig in it's class, but the whole class is getting porkier

lighter=better handling and acceleration with less tire wear and less gas used

if you drove a 330 and then a 330 with 500lbs of crap in the trunk I would hope most of you could tell the difference.

just imagine how much better the driving experience COULD be
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I just can't comprehend how people aren't for lighter cars

The E90's not a pig in it's class, but the whole class is getting porkier

lighter=better handling and acceleration with less tire wear and less gas used

if you drove a 330 and then a 330 with 500lbs of crap in the trunk I would hope most of you could tell the difference.

just imagine how much better the driving experience COULD be
If BMW makes the next generation 3 series lighter somehow than the E90, that would own.

I'm all for lighter cars, light cars own.
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The only way BMW has done to make the E46 'lighter'('faster') is to produce a M version of the E46. As that was not good enough for some more demanding people; so BMW has created an even lighter M3 version of the E46 which is called M3 CSL.
However, the E90's M3 and M3 CSL version (if exists) have not yet been available.
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The only way BMW has done to make the E46 'lighter'('faster') is to produce a M version of the E46. As that was not good enough for some more demanding people; so BMW has created an even lighter M3 version of the E46 which is called M3 CSL.
However, the E90's M3 and M3 CSL version (if exists) have not yet been available.
lol the E46 M3 is 200lbs. heavier than the E46 330i. You're right about the CSL though.

It would be cool if BMW released a lighter Clubsport version of the E90.
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lol the E46 M3 is 200lbs. heavier than the E46 330i. You're right about the CSL though.

It would be cool if BMW released a lighter Clubsport version of the E90.
I know that Faster=Lighter , that was the meaning.
What is the point to have a lighter car and not any faster.
It would NOT be cool if BMW released a lighter Clubsport version of the E90 because me and you have bought the E90 already!
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"What is the point to have a lighter car and not any faster."

because the lighter car would out handle the heavier car.
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