actual 0-60 Time?

[Straight6r]

Any one have an idea what the actual 0-60 time will be for the 1M? I am going to say at least 4.4 or 4.3. Seeing as the 135 will do 4.7-4.6 times confirmed by 3 test magazines, BMW is way off on their projected time of 4.7 for this new model.

[poody]

lets hope so..because 4.7 is laughable for a M car.

[Pete_vB]

Originally Posted by Straight6r

Any one have an idea what the actual 0-60 time will be for the 1M? I am going to say at least 4.4 or 4.3. Seeing as the 135 will do 4.7-4.6 times confirmed by 3 test magazines, BMW is way off on their projected time of 4.7 for this new model.

BMW quoted 5.2 for the 135i, it ran 4.7s. I'll stick my neck out and say someone's going to see a 4.3 from the 1M on a grippy surface.

[techthentic]

Originally Posted by poody

lets hope so..because 4.7 is laughable for a M car.

M3 coupe
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, man/auto (in s) 4.8/4.6
M3 sedan
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, man/auto (in s) 4.9/4.7
M3 vert
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, man/auto (in s) 5.3/5.1
M5 sedan
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, auto (in s) 4.7
M6 coupe
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, auto (in s) 4.4

And I don`t think theres ever been a BMW that hasn`t been faster than BMW`s official times.

[HBspeed]

So fast that you will forget you are driving the modern iteration of the US spec E36 M3!!!

[Pete_vB]

Originally Posted by HBspeed

So fast that you will forget you are driving the modern iteration of the US spec E36 M3!!!

Curious what your issue is other than not enough of a spec change? From where I'm sitting it will likely be quicker to 60 than any new M with a sub $2k tune (totally safe with good gas) and out-handle any new M as well... For sub 50k in a new car what were you expecting?

[conneem-TT]

Depends who is performing the tests.

SportAuto found in a test between the 135i (306PS) and AC Schnitzer ACS1 3.5i (360ps).

135i
0-100km/h 5,2s
0-160km/h 12,3s

ACS1 3.5i
0-100km/h 4,8s
0-160km/h 10,8s

I'd expect the 1M to match the ACS times when SportAuto test it.

Just for another example AutoZeitung got the following figures for the 135i (306PS)

0-100km/h 5,2s
0-160km/h 11,7s

[nachob]

Originally Posted by techthentic

M3 coupe
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, man/auto (in s) 4.8/4.6
M3 sedan
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, man/auto (in s) 4.9/4.7
M3 vert
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, man/auto (in s) 5.3/5.1
M5 sedan
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, auto (in s) 4.7
M6 coupe
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, auto (in s) 4.4

And I don`t think theres ever been a BMW that hasn`t been faster than BMW`s official times.

Does anyone know for sure about the automatic vs manual time difference? I am constantly beaten over the head by salespeople about how the automatic is faster than the manual but in the automatic I believe you have to sit there at the light setting you launch control parameters and hoping you got them right while the guy in the real Manual is at the next light laughing with his girlfriend. Even Paul Tracy, well known race car driver couldn't get the launch control figured out on Battle of the Super Cars. Does anyone hear really know how these times are calculated? Some Manuals have launch control too, but I think it's simpler than the automatics.

I know there a lot of opinions but does anyone here really know for sure?

[_Jono_]

Car an Driver tested M3 dct at 3.9 to 60

[nachob]

Originally Posted by _Jono_

Car an Driver tested M3 dct at 3.9 to 60

Not sure if you were responding to my question or not, but they still don't say how they got 3.9. If you program this thing for launch control, turn off traction control, set it M Dynamic mode, have to have enough time to rev it to 4000 RPM to actuate it while holding the brake pedal and Venus has to cross in front of Mercury, then you launch and get 3.9 0-60. Fine but in the real world you are just at a light it's ready to go green and some douchy guy in a V6 Camry launches on you in order to cut you off even though you have the right-of-way, etc. I just don't think they should use 0-60 times that require 3 days of reading and Ninja like electronic and physical execution to a manual where you rev it and drop the clutch. It's also not as much fun getting to 60 when you are anxious about going through the whole launch sequence. I think this is overlooked by those that are sold an automatic based on 0-60 times.

[poody]

Originally Posted by techthentic

M3 coupe
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, man/auto (in s) 4.8/4.6
M3 sedan
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, man/auto (in s) 4.9/4.7
M3 vert
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, man/auto (in s) 5.3/5.1
M5 sedan
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, auto (in s) 4.7
M6 coupe
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h, auto (in s) 4.4

And I don`t think theres ever been a BMW that hasn`t been faster than BMW`s official times.

OP specially mentioned 0-60 MPH. so 4.7 is really sad for an M car.

[bdardashti]

Originally Posted by poody

OP specially mentioned 0-60 MPH. so 4.7 is really sad for an M car.

So every M car is laughable? They are all quoted in the 4.6-4.9 range, and all get a few tenths of a second faster. So I don't understand how the 1M fitting in the same range is sad?

And 60 MPH = 100km/h. Sure its actually 62 mph, but the 2 mph doesn't matter much. I'm sure the OP meant 100 km/h anyway.

[techthentic]

Originally Posted by poody

OP specially mentioned 0-60 MPH. so 4.7 is really sad for an M car.

Are you serious?

[M3 Adjuster]

This post is laughable!!!!

Originally Posted by poody

lets hope so..because 4.7 is laughable for a M car.

[swamp2]

The car will show low 4 second times.

1. Don't cross shop US and European magazine times. US mags use the drag racing standard allowing a 1 foot roll out. This provides a 0.3-0.4 s advantage to 60 (for a car getting to 60 in 4-5 seconds) over the no roll out method.

2. BMW is extremely conservative in its 0-60 numbers and rightfully so. They know the magazines will get much better numbers. What does BMW say for the M3, 4.7 or 4.8? What does is deliver, 3.9-4.1.

3. Pay attention to the spread in results. If you want bragging rights you can choose the best number a car has ever shown. If you want a realistic number choose something around the average. Have a look at the spreads for the M3 here for example.

Anyway 0-100, is a better indicator of a cars real performance. 0-60 is way too dependent on driver, tires, road surface, temperature, AWD vs. RWD, etc. And here the 1M is going to be in the 10-11 second range.

[///M1]

Originally Posted by poody

lets hope so..because 4.7 is laughable for a M car.

I think your time is better spent playing here http://www.amifaster.com/ than 'contributing' in this thread...

[Mu Mu]

Originally Posted by poody

lets hope so..because 4.7 is laughable for a M car.

KEEP ON TROLLIN.

[dichristiansen]

anyone who drove it knows that BMW M is not about 0-60