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05-10-2010, 09:36 AM | #1 |
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Maco, trianing, prep fees
For an NJ purchase, can anyone advise of the Maco and training fees, what about "prep"? Im told it is charged on every car, but Ive also heard in general reading that this is a bogus fee. Please also consider especially if doing a PCD, as there is no dealer prep fee since the car never hits the dealer.
Im working to get $500 over invoice on an 11 135i, but all of a sudden going through the options, Im getting a $200 markup on lease assumption (if I went that way), plus an MF markup, Im getting that prep fee, etc. Makes the price jump up higher... So I want to be perfectly aware of what is bogus and what is not... So I know when to walk. Thanks! |
05-10-2010, 09:41 AM | #2 |
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If you're paying $500 over invoice, I would just pay the fee. They legitimately have to pay a staff to do all of the back office and to actually physically prep your car so I don't know how it could be called "bogus."
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MACO/training fees are unavoidable to my knowledge. I would not pay the prep fee, i just asked to eliminate that and my dealer said, 'no problem'. They usually will not want to lose a sell over a few hundred bucks. But you have to understand a dealer will need to make some profit too, 3% is a fair and standard profit margin. European cars do NOT get dealer kickback for sells like American car manufactures do, so usually negiotiations are tighter. I was happy with $1000 over invoice, so $500 is a great deal
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I have no issue with MACO, and I believe trianing fee is on the pricing sheets.
But dealer prep is an item that ive typically heard is a bogus fee, but I am not aware of BMW's operations. Seems especially odd to pay the dealer for preparation of a car that will be delivered to the performance center. I am not denying the dealer some level of reasonable profit, but I do want to be sure that oddball ripoffs are not included in what I pay. |
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yep, the prep fee is a bogus fee. wouldnt pay it
check out this site...good info: http://www.carbuyingtips.com/car3.htm
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Also remember for ED, you shouldn't pay the training fee since you get trained in Germany, not at the dealership. I would assume a PCD would make the training fee similarly redundant. |
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Then there's the answer.
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yep, to confirm. NO dealer holdback for BMW.
These price guide/sheet is a great negiotiating tool, at least it has been for me.
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