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It just is mind boggling to me. It's an iron block with massively beefed up components and a trans to match. Outside of HPF's idiotic 1000hp builds, you really don't see people killing them, ever.
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Blow up might be a stretch but early S54's were known to have rod bearing issues and even newer ones still show premature failure. |
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He was talking about Nicky.
The rod bearings on the early ones simply weren't built to their spec(which was addressed in a terrible fashion by BMW), and the later ones are a wear item with a ~100k interval. Similar engines like the Metzger GT3's have even shorter intervals. It is simply a factor of "street spec race" engine ownership.
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Sort of pushes the meter a little.
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S54 is a high strung motor and does have rodbearing and a few other issues. |
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Ilikebmxbikes is spot on. I absolutely adored my Z3Ms and the Z4M, but always considered the engine the weakest link of the cars by far. Yes they were peppy, but compared to my other cars at the time (single turbo Supra or my Z06), they were quite slow. I've pretty much given up on the newer ///M cars now, as they are waaaaay overpriced (especially the 1M which is commanding absolutely ridiculous sums). I did some research on the 135i with the N54, saw it's tuning potential, and have loved the car ever since. The torque the motor generates is fantastic, and while the overall "feel" of the car isn't as nice as say my Z4M, for everyday casual driving it's perfect. It has no power seats, no I(shit)drive, and is just a plain Jane car. I'm thinking of selling it now, but will only be replacing it with a *drum roll please* S54 powered Z4M. The Z4M is just my favorite car of all time, and I never should have sold the one I had. Big, big mistake. *EDIT* Wow, I'm glad I posted in this article. Stig made a mention about the S54 bearings being a "wear" issue, and that blew my mind. I thought the problem from the 01-02 cars was corrected, but apparently not. A quick google search brought back some results showing Z4Ms spinning the bearings at 60k miles. WTH!! Absolutely incredible, another horrible job by BMW. It appears most people in the know are replacing their bearings every 50k miles now. I'll definitely keep this in mind when negotiating for another Z4M, considering they're all getting up there in the mileage department now. Thanks! Last edited by NickyC; 06-16-2014 at 01:16 PM.. |
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Engines, and especially high output engines, have wear items. In the long run, $575 for a set of rod bearings that are easily diagnosed ahead of time via oil analysis(which is cheap) is pretty minor. You sound like an ideal candidate for leased cars or a Toyota Corolla if that is an issue.
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Why is NickyC an ideal candidate for a leased car or Toyotoa Corolla? He has been a long time BMW owner and a member of this forum. Lets not confuse disagreements with disrespect. |
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Hell as much fun as it is I'll never buy another N54 car and ive only ever had the one (pun partially intended) |
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It isn't an insult. Merely an observation that if maintenance free ownership is something you desire, I can't think of any performance car that fits the bill(maybe the S2k?).
Whatever we think the interval is, oil analysis which a responsible owner should be doing either way, will tell you when it is needed. |
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S54 had an issue with the parts not being built to design. Then BMW was a complete ass about it to the customers. Lumping all S54s into the same boat is simply idiotic though.
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My 2-series "envy" has been a bit of a roller coaster. When I first heard about the 2-series I definitely felt a twinge of buyer's remorse, but then upon seeing the cars, it was mostly allayed. I have no desire to drive a car with EPS as it is now, and I hate the front and rear end look. After seeing a few more in the flesh, I started to feel some envy again, especially with the M2 announcement - but every day I spend with my car makes me remember why I bought it, and why I have no desire for a 2-series. Its an old chassis, sure - but its the best new "old" BMW you can get in my opinion. Definitely a future classic, unlike the new 2-series, which looks a little too japanese for my taste. I don't really like the interior either, and the lack of choice in terms of forgoing the nav/iDrive. The only car I'd trade for at this point I think would be a 1M.
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This article makes sense to me on S54 rod bearings:
http://www.langracing.com/finding-a-...aring-failure/ The basic message is BMW made the bearing surface too small in the engines and that leads to failure of the lubricating surface leading to bearing wear. New bearings every 50K miles band-aids the situation but to really correct it you need to increase the bearing size. That means a regrind to the crankshaft and new rods. I expect a higher performance vehicle to need tires more often, brakes more often, use more gas, etc.. I don't think they should require rod bearings (or water pumps) more often. When they do, I think there is a design issue. I do not expect to every own a Ferrari or many other brands. But I don't really want to drive a Toyota either. I really liked my Fiat 124 Spyder but got rid of it quicker than any other car I've owned because it didn't stay running enough of the time. I want both fun and reliability. So far my 128i has given me both.
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