Wedge Tuning

[zayzay]

Does anyone here know what is this wedge tuning and how it works and with what tune?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by zayzay

Does anyone here know what is this wedge tuning and how it works and with what tune?

Wedge is a tuner that creates a custom map designed for you car only. Do you have Cobb?

[zayzay]

yes i have a cobb. they are claiming some ridiculous gains compared to pro tuning freaks. can this be true?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by zayzay

yes i have a cobb. they are claiming some ridiculous gains compared to pro tuning freaks. can this be true?

Their base maps are moderate ( not too aggressive, not too conservative) but if you would like an aggressive/ kill map they would gladly create one as long as you are aware of the risks.

[zayzay]

how do they compare to pro tuning freaks which i used and was not satisfied?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by zayzay

how do they compare to pro tuning freaks which i used and was not satisfied?

You will need to do some searching and read reviews.

[SpencerMH]

Originally Posted by zayzay

how do they compare to pro tuning freaks which i used and was not satisfied?

Zayzay, it's going to be similar and I have a wedge tune I run daily. He's got a reputation for strong tunes and reasonable reliability, I say reasonable because of the relatively few people running them but Im happy. What of your tune are you looking to improve on?

[zayzay]

just more power and torque on the dyno

[zayzay]

besides spencer, is there anyone else here running a wedge tune on there 1M with Cobb AP?

[E30 Racer]

Originally Posted by zayzay

besides spencer, is there anyone else here running a wedge tune on there 1M with Cobb AP?

May want to check some of the other forums (E90post and N54tech). He's done some work with the 335is.

[zayzay]

why is it only spencer using wedge tuning and no other 1M? do they push the limits of safety?

[Snertz]

Originally Posted by zayzay

why is it only spencer using wedge tuning and no other 1M? do they push the limits of safety?

Yes, for the glory runs they did they were essentially flying the DME blind as boost was above what the stock MAP sensor can read. If that's what you're looking for then they can do it for you, just so long as you're aware of the risks.

PTF will not offer this as the safety risks are too high, DME would be blind to an overboost situation which can have catastrophic results.

[zayzay]

got it. they claim to have the record for a n54 at 481whp and some ridiculous amount of torque on a 335is. i see a lot of 335's are using them for tuning

[suspenceful]

I paired a Wedge backend flash with JB4 on my 135i. From my understanding, he only offers tunes via COBB or MHD now. I wanted an aggressive E85 flash and he gave it to me. The car absolutely ripped as his timing is a little more aggressive.

This was about 5 months ago, I've been on the stock flash for the winter months. I plan on switching back as soon as it gets a little warmer. I know a lot of advancements have been made in the last 5 months, so I should probably get in touch with him again and have him smooth things out.

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by zayzay

got it. they claim to have the record for a n54 at 481whp and some ridiculous amount of torque on a 335is. i see a lot of 335's are using them for tuning

Yes we have tuned a 1M before nothing different from the 335is and the Z4 35i MT (both I own), in fact we maxed it out on the stock turbo "within in the boost sensor's limits" . The member lives in Brazil and came in first place beaten a bunch of other tuned cars by PTF and JB4 even a N55 M135i with the VTT Stage 2 turbo upgrade.



Now about the TMAP sensor thingy. We have done this on about a hand full of cars to break "dyno" records. Keep in mind we have tuned almost 200 N54 cars world wide

• The 1st car was Wedge (beating the BMS sotck turbo dyno record)
• The 2nd car was mine 335is (making record of the most torque and consistant speed traps)
• The 3rd was a 335xi requested by the customer (to beat the xi world record)
• The 4th a customer wanted to try an blow his turbos to get new ones, it didnt work, so he just settled for a regular kill tune within the TMAP sensor limits
• The 5th customer, per his requested to set another world record with new inlet turbo pipes

You do see now how the competitor take things like this that was done on our own cars and per request of the customers and flip flop it as this is how we tune in general which gets spewed to the fan boys whom believe it and then starts spewing the same side bent misinformation to others

I dont blame a tuning company stooping so low by using such wanton and manipulative strategies as we are a clear threat to them, cant expect much from that. We are not a company but we are enthusiast hobbiest of the N54 whom have found another approach of tuning the N54. We own and drive a 335i 6AT, 335is DCT, and Z4 35i MT M Sport . We work daily to unsheathe new potential for the N54. We have our own fulltime jobs as IT professionals. We also have our own social N54 tuning Network via GroupMe in which any of our customers can join staying in direct contact with us when needed or to talk whatever with others mostly car talk though.

I myself learned from the many competitors on this platform. I took what I learnt from PTF and BMS and combined both "theory" aspect and produce my own aspect of approach on this platform and it works, its safe, it been beaten to a pulp. We are thinking outside the box here and not being anchored to common engine theory. Its not even really about engine theory its about manipulating engine management system logic.

We can tune anyway you want, conservative to kill maps, or even for dyno glory numbers. Our map via COBB ATR are unlocked you get to see our hand, and compare tables to learn. Unfortunately the competitor doesnt show you their hand, but I have seen it and I know how they tune cause the competitor has tuned my car before. Also, we just partnered with the new MHD N54 flasher, using an Android device, but our maps will be locked as it is a cheaper flash solution for the N54


If you guys have any questions feel free to drop us an email wedgeperformance@gmail.com

[zayzay]

no way that 1m could do that on a map for pump gas.

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by zayzay

no way that 1m could do that on a map for pump gas.

He was on E60 + Meth at that event. We can tune any fuel. Btw just a reminder in Brazil their pump gas is E25+

[zayzay]

i do not know what gas they run in brazil, but i would be tuning for 93 octane. how much power and torque you think you can deliver on 93 octane?

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by BuraQ

We can tune anyway you want, conservative to kill maps, or even for dyno glory numbers. Our map via COBB ATR are unlocked you get to see our hand, and compare tables to learn. Unfortunately the competitor doesnt show you their hand, but I have seen it and I know how they tune cause the competitor has tuned my car before. Also, we just partnered with the new MHD N54 flasher, using an Android device, but our maps will be locked as it is a cheaper flash solution for the N54


If you guys have any questions feel free to drop us an email wedgeperformance@gmail.com

You are saying that your custom MHD maps are locked then?

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by zayzay

i do not know what gas they run in brazil, but i would be tuning for 93 octane. how much power and torque you think you can deliver on 93 octane?

I dont know...you may have laughed or shocked that I have said this, but its the safest answer to give

Here is my reason. Every car is different, no two cars will make the same power even though its the same identical tune, same mods and same geographical location. Thats just how it is .....

a major impact on power is also determined if you are at sea level or above sea level and altitude.

This is why I cannot promise any whp numbers, as the health of the car is another factor other than the type of mods and location etc.

Now, what do I see in general ? 380-420 whp on 93 (E10) pump gas with FBO. WTQ is usually between 450-480 .

We can make more significant power on the 1M, 335is and Z4 that are FBO cause we use overboost or Q-Logic to push the additional PSI above the boost target without overshooting the system load. The other tuners cannot do this as there is no racelogic for our cars ie the N54T models. Also, the other "flash only" tuners do not know how to control overboost gear to gear without having to sacrifice timing ie timing correction issues from what I have seen so far and keep a "STRONG" top end.

Technical you shouldn't get too concerned about dyno numbers as they do not represent what the car will do and how it will perform in real world conditions. We tuned the car gear to gear in real world conditions and this is what matters most.

Originally Posted by Ilma

You are saying that your custom MHD maps are locked then?

Yes our maps regardless if they are custom tuned or OTS maps will remain locked only via the MHD flash as we have and will have access to more tables than the COBB ATR/ATP does and we will like to keep that proprietary as far as I know at this time.

[zayzay]

anyone else on this forum with a 1M is going to get a wedge tune, and if not, why?

[J. Dub]

Originally Posted by zayzay

anyone else on this forum with a 1M is going to get a wedge tune, and if not, why?

I'd like to know as well.