Run in service

Dackelone · 06-10-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 1erMCoupe

I bought Mobil 1 0W40 New life. BMW (Longlife 01) 8L/51€ for the engine and Castrol SAF-XJ 75W-140 1L for 13,50€ for the diff.

BTW: The manuel shows the posibility for 0W30,0W40,5W30,5W40 .....

FYI...

LL-1 is for USA high sulfur fuels
LL-4 is for Germany/European low sulfur fuels.

Since you live in Germany... you should use a LL-4 approved oil.

I have a US specs 135i over here in Germany. This is why I use "Castrol RS Edge 0w40 LL-4 oil" in my car. I can buy it tax free(with a VAT form) from Stahlgrube for 53 euros for a 5L jug. Normally this oil sells for 79 to 99 euros for the 5L jug at most stores over here. Or you can use the BMW/Castrol oil at the dealership. One liter runs about 23 euros.

Dackel

DriveHard · 06-10-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by l888apex

weird, since it was a thing to do before. nothing has changed mechanically except now they want to cover their ass for not having enough fluid.

exactly... hence my stement about a reversal of the reversal... Just like the Low Mileage oil services.... First it must be done, then it can wait, then it must be done again.. I think they just dont want a bunch of 1M's all at the same time sitting at the dealer because they werent prepared with fluid ....

The only think that goes against my train of thought is the rather low limited production, and the possible people that it has affected...

just me rambeling, but I have seen worse things happen...

hollysmac · 06-10-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TXmtrhed

From my Service and Warranty manual:

"1200 Mile Service
The engine in your BMW 1 Series M Coupe or M3 is a race-bred engine design which includes increased power output and maximum engine speeds compared to a conventional BMW 1 or 3 Series engine. The increased power output also affects other major drivetrain components, such as the transmission (M3 only) and the rear axle differential. The 1200 Mile Service requires changing the oil in the engine and the differential. M3 vehicles with the standard transmission also require the transmission fluid to be changed (transition fluid does not need to be changed for an M3 with the optional M-DCT Drivelogic transmission)."

So why are your transmissions being serviced? Unless the service procedures have changed since the print date I'm thinking the techs are doing more than necessary and putting some of you into a bind.

Because we have Manual tranmissions not drive logic.

hollysmac · 06-10-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AW 1M

My car is at the dealer. Several people commented that I was the second 1M to be towed in today. After driving the 328 home, I am taking the MINI to the driving school tomorrow.

The Mini will be fun a 328 automatic would be very dull. Sorry about the problrems-- Hope you get your car back soon.

Kippers · 06-10-2011, 01:45 PM

Well, 28 hours later, I heard back ...

They have an expedited order in for the LT5, it should arrive next Thursday.

They are saying it is okay to drive, but if I want them to pick it up on a rollback they will ... I will opt for them to pick it up ... *after* they really have the LT5 in stock.

DriveHard · 06-10-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kippers

Well, 28 hours later, I heard back ...

They have an expedited order in for the LT5, it should arrive next Thursday.

They are saying it is okay to drive, but if I want them to pick it up on a rollback they will ... I will opt for them to pick it up ... *after* they really have the LT5 in stock.

very GOOD DEAL

Hang on to the car till they have fluid in hand... with more bad luck the fluid will get hung up in customs or something stupid...

I am very happy for you... really i am... ( and hopefully will be able to feel happy for Wild Bill and any others that are stuck )

Mnime · 06-10-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kippers

Well, 28 hours later, I heard back ...

They have an expedited order in for the LT5, it should arrive next Thursday.

They are saying it is okay to drive, but if I want them to pick it up on a rollback they will ... I will opt for them to pick it up ... *after* they really have the LT5 in stock.

I was just told the same thing...

DriveHard · 06-10-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mnime

I was just told the same thing...

Thats great too!!!

Maybe, just maybe, all the paniked calls by the different dealers shook the tree enough for it to rain MTL-LT5 all over the place

Dan Parker · 06-10-2011, 03:39 PM

This might be due to me telling BMW NA we were going to require they pay our 1st car payment yesterday.

Great news!

Mnime · 06-10-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Parker

This might be due to me telling BMW NA we were going to require they pay our 1st car payment yesterday.

Great news!

Funny I was going to request the exact same thing...

Kippers · 06-10-2011, 04:14 PM

... funny ... that thought occurred to me as well ...

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Originally Posted by Mnime

Funny I was going to request the exact same thing...

DriveHard · 06-10-2011, 04:22 PM

Its worth a shot if it goes 3 or 4 weeks... if it goes to thursday, not so much...

BUT you do have an ace up your sleeve for the first "questionable" repair........ like due to "enthusiastic" driving ...

in addition its really 100 % dealers fault... hit them up for something..NA really has nothing to do with putting the wrong stuff in... Have them good will some performance grills or something...

SAFE4NOW · 06-10-2011, 04:36 PM

FYI:

ZF Site

Per ZF website , under their list of lubricants ( TE-ML-11 ) under product groups S6-45 BMW Part# 8322 2167 666 (MTF-LT-5) is actually
Pentosin FFL-3

When cross referenced this is the same fluid that Porsche uses under the part# 000 043 207 29 ( Auto Trans Fluid FFL-3 )

Which shows to be in stock locally ( DFW )

Now, stock is limited, but it's faster than " Next Thursday "

Just a thought, feel free to independantly confirm.....

I have 15 bottles ordered just in case I can

local owners get their 1M back sooner...

Steve

DriveHard · 06-10-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SAFE4NOW

FYI:

ZF Site

Per ZF website , under their list of lubricants ( TE-ML-11 ) under product groups S6-45 BMW Part# 8322 2167 666 (MTF-LT-5) is actually
Pentosin FFL-3

When cross refrenced this is the same fluid that Porsche uses under the part# 000 043 207 29 ( Auto Trans Fluid FFL-3 )

Which shows to be in stock locally ( DFW )

Now, stock is limited, but it's faster than " Next Thursday "

Just a thought, feel free to independantly confirm.....

I have 15 bottles ordered just in case I can

local owners get their 1M back sooner...

Steve

hmmmmmmmm.... cool beans...

Mnime · 06-10-2011, 04:54 PM

Thanks Steve...you guys alway seem to find away.

Anyone who is interested please give Steve a call. AutoScope is one of Dallas' alternatives to the German dealerships and they do great work and are highly recommended. They have helped me multiple times when I had my MINI and have a rather large following of track junkies.

Check them out... www.autoscope.net

AW 1M · 06-12-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hollysmac

The Mini will be fun a 328 automatic would be very dull. Sorry about the problrems-- Hope you get your car back soon.

The MINI was great fun. Everyone in the paddock was disappointed they didn't get to see the 1M.

Mnime · 06-12-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AW 1M

Everyone in the paddock was disappointed they didn't get to see the 1M.

but probably not disappointed to get passed by a 1M

AW 1M · 06-12-2011, 06:43 PM

I like this picture. It makes it look like the Atom was chasing me.

Dan Parker · 06-12-2011, 09:16 PM

if this gets 1 laugh it will be worth it.

Kippers · 06-12-2011, 10:44 PM

Some more info on "LT-5" .... AKA "Pentosin FFL-3"

http://www.pentosin.com/shop_produkt...84&csprache=EM

Product data sheet:

http://www.pentosin.com/flexxtrader/...20FFL-3_GB.pdf

LT-2 is actually BP Castrol BOT 338

http://www01apps.zf.com/kst464/ZF_In...011_de0700.pdf

I believe that LT-2 is the same as Pentosin MTF 2, data sheet*:

http://pentosin.net/pressreleases/CR...nto_MTF2_2.pdf

*This is based on a reference ... http://www.bmwpartsweb.com/BMW-Parts...ID-825A69.aspx ... I am tired, going to bed, I will try to verify this tomorrow

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Originally Posted by SAFE4NOW

FYI:

ZF Site

Per ZF website , under their list of lubricants ( TE-ML-11 ) under product groups S6-45 BMW Part# 8322 2167 666 (MTF-LT-5) is actually
Pentosin FFL-3

When cross referenced this is the same fluid that Porsche uses under the part# 000 043 207 29 ( Auto Trans Fluid FFL-3 )

Which shows to be in stock locally ( DFW )

Now, stock is limited, but it's faster than " Next Thursday "

Just a thought, feel free to independantly confirm.....

I have 15 bottles ordered just in case I can

local owners get their 1M back sooner...

Steve

Kippers · 06-13-2011, 07:50 AM

Thanks ... My local Porsche dealer doesn't have it in stock presently ... hopefully the local BMW folks are correct with the Thursday delievery ....

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAFE4NOW

FYI:

ZF Site

Per ZF website , under their list of lubricants ( TE-ML-11 ) under product groups S6-45 BMW Part# 8322 2167 666 (MTF-LT-5) is actually
Pentosin FFL-3

When cross referenced this is the same fluid that Porsche uses under the part# 000 043 207 29 ( Auto Trans Fluid FFL-3 )

Which shows to be in stock locally ( DFW )

Now, stock is limited, but it's faster than " Next Thursday "

Just a thought, feel free to independantly confirm.....

I have 15 bottles ordered just in case I can

local owners get their 1M back sooner...

Steve

Mnime · 06-13-2011, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Parker

if this gets 1 laugh it will be worth it.

it made me chuckle....

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SAFE4NOW ... well you are... 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: 2009 C63, 2007 Rs4, 2005 Elise Join Date: May 2010 Location: N.Dallas iTrader: (0)	FYI FYI: ZF Site Per ZF website , under their list of lubricants ( TE-ML-11 ) under product groups S6-45 BMW Part# 8322 2167 666 (MTF-LT-5) is actually Pentosin FFL-3 When cross referenced this is the same fluid that Porsche uses under the part# 000 043 207 29 ( Auto Trans Fluid FFL-3 ) Which shows to be in stock locally ( DFW ) Now, stock is limited, but it's faster than " Next Thursday " Just a thought, feel free to independantly confirm..... I have 15 bottles ordered just in case I can local owners get their 1M back sooner... Steve Last edited by SAFE4NOW; 06-10-2011 at 05:05 PM.. Reason: Spelling Error
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