Opinions on tuned n52 with 3 stage

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by Sinister_1

After studying the graphs you posted, I can't seem to find a decernable difference between Evolve and AA. From what everyone has posted it comes down to headers.

The only differecne I found is at 3k RPM on the HP graph. The HP curve basicaly flattens out the dip that i had. But looking at official Evolve, they match AA's dyno. So not sure.

I may try to do a Torque curve comparison maybe much later this month.

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

He's saved us a lot of time and energy and i'm sure it'll save anybody looking to tune an n52 in the future. Many thanks to Andrey and everyone else who's contributed!

And again, I stress it is not a perfect comparison. Especially if the gains are sloped more aggressively or in rare cases parallel to no-tune

[Solo_M_Tech]

Originally Posted by andrey_gta

The only differecne I found is at 3k RPM on the HP graph. The HP curve basicaly flattens out the dip that i had. But looking at official Evolve, they match AA's dyno. So not sure.

I may try to do a Torque curve comparison maybe much later this month.

The important difference between AA and Evolve is Evolve has better header support from what I've learned. AA is working on it still and consistantly updating thier tune.

And again, I stress it is not a perfect comparison. Especially if the gains are sloped more aggressively or in rare cases parallel to no-tune

It's the best data we have so far. I will be posting an after dyno once the ECU has time to adapt. This will be just the Intake and Tune dyno. No headers or custom exhaust/ intake parts. That way we know exactly how much the DISA and Tune benefits the stock N52.

[Taskmaster]

I want to see that.

[Solo_M_Tech]

I'm looking forward to it as well.

[kobeballer96]

Originally Posted by Sinister_1

I'm looking forward to it as well.

HOLY Hell GUY! Get back to work. you caught up to me in Post's already lol

waiting on your dyno Results haha. I have been a ghost lately on the forums.

[Solo_M_Tech]

Originally Posted by kobeballer96

HOLY Hell GUY! Get back to work. you caught up to me in Post's already lol

waiting on your dyno Results haha. I have been a ghost lately on the forums.

LOL yeah, I know

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by kobeballer96

HOLY Hell GUY! Get back to work. you caught up to me in Post's already lol

waiting on your dyno Results haha. I have been a ghost lately on the forums.

You and me both. Being out of the office puts me on the forum less.

[Solo_M_Tech]

Time to resurect this thread! The time has come to make my purchase, and I've chose Evolve. Local German tuners want to much, AA doesn't have a great track record for headers, and Evolve fits all of my needs. I will be swapping to SS headers in the next year and I don't want to run into issues with the tune and SES lights. I want to thank everyone for their imput, and Manny@ActiveAutoWerkes for all of your help and insight. Now I'm just waiting for Imram to email me back so I can make my purchase!!!!!!!!

[Solo_M_Tech]

Frago ...! Imran couldn't ship to my address so I got a refund. Who would you go with as your second option?

[Taskmaster]

AA or OE tuning are really your only options at this point, and if they are on sale, should be cheaper (including shipping) Otherwise you can go with a Brittish tuner like Ptorque.

[631twentyeighteye]

I'd go with AA as a second option. Since i've fixed my o2 issues my motor has been buttery smooth without any hiccups(i knocked on wood). I'm looking into finding defoulers for the secondary o2's that will remove the check engine light whilst still allowing us to pass inspection. My mechanic has a set in mind that he knows to work on every car he's put them on, i just have to purchase them and have them installed really.

I recommend defoulers for the secondary's mostly because when i looked at mine, they were black and filthy from the lack of the cat's.

[JDtheJD]

Sinister1,

I am guessing that you have an APO address which is why the product you desired couldn't be shipped to you. If so, checkout shipitapo or a similar service. I used it all the time when I was stationed in Germany. There is some added cost but from what I recall it was relatively small and its a nice work around for people who refuse to ship it to APOs for whatever reason.

Hope this helps.

[Solo_M_Tech]

Ok time to resurrect this almost dead thread again. I recently installed the 3 stage disa manifold and AA tune on my bone stock 128i. Stock manifolds, stock exhaust etc. Only changes were the intake, and tune. WOW! I was expecting a difference, but wow! It's been 2 days since the tune was uploaded and it just keeps getting stronger and stronger each day! (I know it will level out once it adapts) I am very pleased with Manny's customer service and Active Autowerke's quality product. It was very simple to install and came with clear directions.

Immediate impressions: Stronger pull, more torque, slightly different exhaust note, and no speed limiter.

2 Day later Impressoins: Much stronger pull, Will spin 265/40 PSS tires on command, Pulls hard all the way to 7K RPM's, needs headers!

I'm sure once I get the suspension installed with camber plates I'll be able to push the car alot harder than I have been. Brakes are next, and I need help choosing QUALITY upgrades in Rotors and Pads.

[andrey_gta]

Awesome, in line with my impressions for my tune.

[631twentyeighteye]

At what speed will it spin those PSS's? My 245 v12's won't spin after second gear up unless i'm purposely clutch kicking and hooning around on purpose.

[Taskmaster]

Hmm....

[andrey_gta]

I think it takes DTC off to do wheel spins. The nany is too strong

[631twentyeighteye]

I'm speaking full nannies off. Whenever i'm actually playing around/driving spiritedly i always turn the TC/DTC/otherbullnannies off. They intrude way too much and IMO make it harder to anticipate what the car is going to do. They kill power and induce heavy understeer in my experience.

Then again i know my limits and don't go beyond them for risk of totaling the car and myself.

[TheSt|G]

Glad to hear it is working well! 3 stage is just an essential mod with these cars.

[Solo_M_Tech]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Glad to hear it is working well! 3 stage is just an essential mod with these cars.

I completely agree! I just do not understand why bmw didn't let the us market have this from the start. Suspension is on the way, brakes, then headers!

[NA_Villhauser]

I just went with an evolve tune along with the 3 stage manifold and supersprint headers. I havn't dynoed it but I am amazed by how torquey to car feels now from 2-4k rpms, I was expecting most of the gains to be in the top end (they are there too).

Now I just have a slight idle fluctuation issue to work out. Most likely a hardware problem on my end or an issue of adaptation. I have to go through and look for exhaust leaks, etc. before I bug evolve.

[Solo_M_Tech]

Well I'm planning on doing a dyno around the 1st. No headers, just disa and tune. Super sprints are next on my power mods list, but I have to get the suspension and brakes sorted out first. Suspension is picked, brakes are 90%. I'm thinking about running Stoptech drilled rotors and EBC yellow stuff pads. Still not sure though.