No 128i Love :(

TheSt|G · 07-20-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mikal7

stig, any photos of your car??

Missed this, here you go. Dirty car photos.

(In my defense it has been raining off and on all week)

JimD · 07-20-2012, 10:10 AM

Looks really nice. I like tinted glass on AW but haven't taken the time to get mine tinted yet.

TheSt|G · 07-20-2012, 10:32 AM

I'm quite a fan, it ties into the shadowline trim, tail lights, tires, and BMW P spoiler rather nicely.

andrey_gta · 07-20-2012, 01:30 PM

Looks sharp! I think 128i owners own a good 40% of Blacklines on 1additcs. Black-line Mafia represent

I think custom black or carbon vinyl inside the mirror cap groove will finish it off pretty well.

ulrichd · 07-20-2012, 04:44 PM

Be careful with the mods, after four years of ownership my car now looks like this. On the plus side I have only two more car payments left-it will be the first car I have ever paid off.

Suspension is Eibach/Koni FSD, BMWPF side skirts and exhaust, M3 front swaybar, Cool Carbon brake pads. Wheels were bought used from this site.

TheSt|G · 07-20-2012, 05:43 PM

Oh I know, it's an addiction.

Almost every car I've owned has been fairly seriously modded. My M3 was making ~60hp over stock with all the suspension goodies, the M5 had the full suspension setup as well with some other things, and the 1er is showing no signs of being any different.

flinchy · 07-20-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by andrey_gta

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Originally Posted by Greenkirby21

cool! Pics?

I will post up in the photo thread as a log over the weekend. I washed and clayed the sides, they were used. Need to repair paint chips and then mount it and have my car go in for a detail.

Very excited.

EDIT:
Found these Cams
https://racingdynamics.com/eStore/in...405290301.html
Super expenisve

I wonder how much for just th cams?

TheSt|G · 07-21-2012, 08:48 AM

Bumping the redline to 7400 seems like a poor plan to me.

fs454 · 07-21-2012, 11:16 AM

Yeah, no hate for the 128i...except for the fact that I absolutely despise the front bumper. If the cars looked the same from the exterior I'd definitely consider one alongside the 135.

Awesome cars on this page.

TheSt|G · 07-21-2012, 11:26 AM

MSport makes it a 135i mirror, just go look at mine on the last page. All you need to do is delete the rather pointless fogs(at least if you have Xenons, they add almost no light).

smw356 · 07-21-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Bumping the redline to 7400 seems like a poor plan to me.

At least without destroking, that seems kind of dicey.

TheSt|G · 07-21-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smw356

At least without destroking, that seems kind of dicey.

My experience has been that factory red lines are not something you screw around with without extensive engine work, and even then it's pretty dumb for a DD.

andrey_gta · 07-21-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fs454

Yeah, no hate for the 128i...except for the fact that I absolutely despise the front bumper. If the cars looked the same from the exterior I'd definitely consider one alongside the 135.

Awesome cars on this page.

the front bumper flows well with Msport/stock 135i sides much better. Makes me feel that it is the side skirts that make the car look odd

I will post pics soon

andrey_gta · 07-21-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSt|G

MSport makes it a 135i mirror, just go look at mine on the last page. All you need to do is delete the rather pointless fogs(at least if you have Xenons, they add almost no light).

Does this cause errors? Can you just unplug?

andrey_gta · 07-21-2012, 02:46 PM

Preview

Notice how the rear bumper-line is same slope as135i/msport sides

TheSt|G · 07-21-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by andrey_gta

Does this cause errors? Can you just unplug?

You can eliminate it via coding.

flinchy · 07-21-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Bumping the redline to 7400 seems like a poor plan to me.

Why? These engines shouldn't have an issue (head wise) flowing over 8k - the only problem would be the stock tune would lean out like crazy - bigger cams add even more airflow, just have to tune it in

I'm pretty sure the guy in the uk wish custom cams and head and itb's goes over 8k

Heck, apparently the 3.2 stroker kit has no issue to 7.5k without any other work

Obioban · 07-21-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by flinchy

Why? These engines shouldn't have an issue (head wise) flowing over 8k - the only problem would be the stock tune would lean out like crazy - bigger cams add even more airflow, just have to tune it in

I'm pretty sure the guy in the uk wish custom cams and head and itb's goes over 8k

Heck, apparently the 3.2 stroker kit has no issue to 7.5k without any other work

At minimum I'd think you need lightweight valves, valve springs... And somehow address the hydraulic lifters (probably change to manually adjustable).

Maybe pistons and ross, too.

Race engine life spans are measured in hours. Just because you see it on a race car doesn't mean you can do it.

TheSt|G · 07-21-2012, 09:09 PM

^^^

Exactly. I'm talking in terms of daily driver here, which is what this car is for the vast majority of us.

flinchy · 07-22-2012, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Obioban

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Originally Posted by flinchy

Why? These engines shouldn't have an issue (head wise) flowing over 8k - the only problem would be the stock tune would lean out like crazy - bigger cams add even more airflow, just have to tune it in

I'm pretty sure the guy in the uk wish custom cams and head and itb's goes over 8k

Heck, apparently the 3.2 stroker kit has no issue to 7.5k without any other work

At minimum I'd think you need lightweight valves, valve springs... And somehow address the hydraulic lifters (probably change to manually adjustable).

Maybe pistons and ross, too.

Race engine life spans are measured in hours. Just because you see it on a race car doesn't mean you can do it.

They are already lightweight, very single aspect of this engine design was about weight saving, and it's actually easy to lock the lifters to mac lift - one of the basic tuning things

The one i'm talking about is still stock internals, so it's not too bad

Obioban · 07-22-2012, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by flinchy

They are already lightweight, very single aspect of this engine design was about weight saving, and it's actually easy to lock the lifters to mac lift - one of the basic tuning things

The one i'm talking about is still stock internals, so it's not too bad

Locking them at max lift is fine for a race car, but for a street car you need them adjusting to compensate for wear over time (not that much time-- say 30,000 miles)... So not an acceptable solution.

Not to mention that max lift is going to wear expensive components out much, much faster!

Every aspect of the engine was designed around the redline they set for it. Increasing redline VASTLY increases engine wear. Specific to your lightweight block, increasing RPM creates lots of extra heat, which will quickly warp an alu/mag block.

flinchy · 07-22-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Obioban

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Originally Posted by flinchy

They are already lightweight, very single aspect of this engine design was about weight saving, and it's actually easy to lock the lifters to mac lift - one of the basic tuning things

The one i'm talking about is still stock internals, so it's not too bad

Locking them at max lift is fine for a race car, but for a street car you need them adjusting to compensate for wear over time (not that much time-- say 30,000 miles)... So not an acceptable solution.

Not to mention that max lift is going to wear expensive components out much, much faster!

Every aspect of the engine was designed around the redline they set for it. Increasing redline VASTLY increases engine wear. Specific to your lightweight block, increasing RPM creates lots of extra heat, which will quickly warp an alu/mag block.

You know that even aa's tune for example sets max lift? It helps with response as well as flow

They only adjust for efficiency, not for wear compensation

Higher limit would increase wear like that if you held it on the limiter sure..

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andrey_gta Brigadier General 298 Rep 4,040 Posts Drives: 130i coupé ;) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bimmerpost iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 128i [10.00]	Preview Notice how the rear bumper-line is same slope as135i/msport sides Attached Images __________________ 128i Sport 6MT converted to Euro 130i spec, 3.73 diff, tuned by evolve ~220 whp 207 wtq(ft-lb) SAE In-progress: //M front arm, M3 rack, e36M lip Wishlist: Coils, n55 mnts, headers, LSD, e60 finn diff "The 1-series is the last car that BMW engineered before the Germans, as a car-making culture, fell out of love with driving." - R&T 2013 135is
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TheSt\|G Resident Tamed Racing Driver 298 Rep 4,697 Posts Drives: 911, 130is, E39 M5, E36 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Outside Philly iTrader: (2)	^^^ Exactly. I'm talking in terms of daily driver here, which is what this car is for the vast majority of us. __________________ 2005 E46 M3 Interlagos/Cinnamon with Sunroof Delete
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