Best FMIC on the market that requires no cutting?

[MrRoboto]

Evolve

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637186

[ADVANT123]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Evolve

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637186

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[TurboBullett@Ambient Thermal Management]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Evolve

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637186

I'd be surprised if that worked much better than stock if at all. It's bigger sure but is still tube and fin and looks to have less fin density and more restrictive inlets into the internal fins of the core.

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by TTurboBullett

I'd be surprised if that worked much better than stock if at all. It's bigger sure but is still tube and fin and looks to have less fin density and more restrictive inlets into the internal fins of the core.

The dyno appears to indicate otherwise. A rear exhaust alone wouldn't product the gains indicated so some of the increase must be attributed to the upgraded FMIC.

[cooler2442]

I'd go with ETS myself. I just bought their charge pipe and was pretty impressed. Saving $ for the none cutting intercooler now.

[MDORPHN]

Originally Posted by ianf

is the FMIC upgrade on its own really worth it in the 1M?

Depends entirely how you use the car.

If you'll be doing any road racing/advanced HPDEs -- especially in warm weather, I'd consider it a most worthwhile modification.

Neil

[MDORPHN]

Originally Posted by ianf

cool, well Oz gets hot! prefer the stealth option though so ETS?

Well, they're all pretty stealthy since they're behind the grill.

FWIW, I went with Helix and am very pleased with it. But I've also heard good things about ETS.

Neil

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by ianf

is the FMIC upgrade on its own really worth it in the 1M?

In our extensive testing on and off the dyne. The stock FMIC is good at the stock boost levels. Anything higher the IAT's start to climb and timing is pulled. the ETS 5" so far is good to 405 WHP on a warm 86F day.

[135IS]

why is everyone so against cutting? its just some silly plastic pieces...

[TurboBullett@Ambient Thermal Management]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

The dyno appears to indicate otherwise. A rear exhaust alone wouldn't product the gains indicated so some of the increase must be attributed to the upgraded FMIC.

So you don't think a manufacturer dynoing 2 mods done at the same time and showing the results isn't remotely strange to you? I design and test intercoolers and I stand by my original statement that the fundamentals of that intercooler in regards to the core are lacking even compared to stock. They look to have a good welder, however.

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by TTurboBullett

So you don't think a manufacturer dynoing 2 mods done at the same time and showing the results isn't remotely strange to you? I design and test intercoolers and I stand by my original statement that the fundamentals of that intercooler in regards to the core are lacking even compared to stock. They look to have a good welder, however.

Well I am not the manufacturer so can't comment. Of course it would be great to have an independent dyno as each part was added. My point is with all other tail exhaust systems the gains have been minimal so the FMIC 'should' account for some of the increase. Lets email them to find out.

[cooler2442]

I think all the intercooler manufacturers should send Burger their intercoolers and have Terry independently dyno them all lol.

[Aussie_in_London]

I run a Forge Motorsport IC, less than 30 min to fit, no cutting required, bar and plate core and found intake temps ran 15deg cooler (on a dyno with limited airflow) running stock boost levels / software .....

[ADVANT123]

Originally Posted by Aussie_in_London

I run a Forge Motorsport IC, less than 30 min to fit, no cutting required, bar and plate core and found intake temps ran 15deg cooler (on a dyno with limited airflow) running stock boost levels / software .....

Does that Forge unit use the factory couplers?

[Aussie_in_London]

It does, plug and play you're on your way......

[ADVANT123]

Where did you buy the forge intercooler with the factory couplers? All the places I have seen that carry the intercooler only sell it with aftermarket silicone couplers like pictured:

[Aussie_in_London]

It was fitted by Forge while they had my car in for development

the above was originally built for the 135i & 335i

this is the IC for the 1M and will fit the 135&335i

[1'M Blue]

Currentley on order is an ETS unit .

[ADVANT123]

Originally Posted by Aussie_in_London

It was fitted by Forge while they had my car in for development

the above was originally built for the 135i & 335i

this is the IC for the 1M and will fit the 135&335i

I like... is this officially released? Any pricing details?

[Aussie_in_London]

I think it soon will be but nothing on their site yet, I know last week they where writing up fitting instructions etc

Get on to Forge US mate, they should soon enough have prices for you guys.

Forge Motorsport Inc.
6536 Pinecastle Blvd
Suite 'C'
Orlando
FL 32809
USA
Phone: 407 447 5363