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      07-23-2013, 05:39 PM   #1
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1M Killer?

Hmm A45 killer also!?!

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=867904
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      07-23-2013, 06:13 PM   #2
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Might be just a name sake LSD similar to the gen2 987 Cayman S, the clutch plates would melt after a few track days, but then inserted aftermarket plates.
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      07-23-2013, 08:11 PM   #3
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getting tired of bmw's cynical marketing techniques, so everything now with 2 doors a turbo and a bmw badge is the spiritual ancestor to the 2002.

speaking of that, a friend of mine took delivery of quite an immaculate original the other day, even has a really cool boost gauge
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      07-23-2013, 08:48 PM   #4
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getting tired of bmw's cynical marketing techniques, so everything now with 2 doors a turbo and a bmw badge is the spiritual ancestor to the 2002.

speaking of that, a friend of mine took delivery of quite an immaculate original the other day, even has a really cool boost gauge
wow thats awesome!
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      07-23-2013, 11:03 PM   #5
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getting tired of bmw's cynical marketing techniques, so everything now with 2 doors a turbo and a bmw badge is the spiritual ancestor to the 2002.

speaking of that, a friend of mine took delivery of quite an immaculate original the other day, even has a really cool boost gauge
That looks like outside your place mate...
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      07-23-2013, 11:42 PM   #6
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yeah the guy next door seems to have bottom less pockets when it comes to toys

the wheel arches look really good in the flesh, just like the 1m i suppose.
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      07-23-2013, 11:45 PM   #7
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Its a much better looking car than the M135i - Any ideas on pricing ?
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      07-24-2013, 12:33 AM   #8
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Wow! Impressive... How does this leave space for the M2 in the market?

I don't think the LSD is full locking like other M diffs though
i'm pretty sure it'll be an option like on the 4 series

and it's a 'bmw performance differential' i can't see why it won't be a 1.5way? 1 way would make the article a joke, no way would it be a 1M killer, not a chance.... it still won't have m suspension bushings, control arms, all that goodness... so faster than the 1M might be pushing it?

add to that, if it was a 1M killer, that pretty much puts the nail in the coffin for a new M1/M2. no good.
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      07-24-2013, 12:59 AM   #9
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it wouldn't suprise me if the new platform is quicker then the 1m for alot of models, but the tail out action will be considerably less
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      07-24-2013, 04:16 AM   #10
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Not faster than a 1M....... According to Scott that's an error.

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=84
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      07-24-2013, 04:18 AM   #11
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In the interests of progress and competitiveness to the recent AMG offerings, I hope the M235i and M2 absolutely blow the doors off the old 1 series platform.

Wishful thinking??
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      07-24-2013, 04:25 AM   #12
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Not faster than a 1M....... According to Scott that's an error.

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=84
Just typical misinformed journalism..
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      07-24-2013, 04:35 AM   #13
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Not faster than a 1M....... According to Scott that's an error.

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=84
Pfft, thats a horseshit excuse but typical
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      07-24-2013, 05:10 AM   #14
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In the interests of progress and competitiveness to the recent AMG offerings, I hope the M235i and M2 absolutely blow the doors off the old 1 series platform.

Wishful thinking??
I agree. Can't stop progress.
Bring on the new models.
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      07-24-2013, 05:19 AM   #15
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On top of this, Audis' release of S3 pricing at $59,990 plus on roads all bodes well for the competition and future pricing
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      07-24-2013, 05:28 AM   #16
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Not faster than a 1M....... According to Scott that's an error.

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=84
Looking at the thread in context, the confusion seems to be about the wheels for the new coupe being adopted from the M135i hatchback, rather than the 1M coupe. The title of the article is very clear: "M235i will beat the 1M coupe". Being faster than the M135i hatch wouldn't even be newsworthy.
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      07-24-2013, 09:03 AM   #17
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In the interests of progress and competitiveness to the recent AMG offerings, I hope the M235i and M2 absolutely blow the doors off the old 1 series platform.

Wishful thinking??
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On top of this, Audis' release of S3 pricing at $59,990 plus on roads all bodes well for the competition and future pricing
Fully agree with these sentiments. Bring on the M2!
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      07-24-2013, 09:15 AM   #18
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The styling looks a bit tame compared to a 1M. The only thing that will save the 1M in the long run will be the unavailability of manual transmissions as an option.

That 2002 turbo looks cool but the lag on those is terrible. Also the wide arches aren't moulded in on the originals, they are screwed or riveted to the body with a sealing strip around the edge. He's lucky to get one of those if it is a real 2002 Turbo.
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      07-24-2013, 04:03 PM   #19
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The styling looks a bit tame compared to a 1M. The only thing that will save the 1M in the long run will be the unavailability of manual transmissions as an option.

That 2002 turbo looks cool but the lag on those is terrible. Also the wide arches aren't moulded in on the originals, they are screwed or riveted to the body with a sealing strip around the edge. He's lucky to get one of those if it is a real 2002 Turbo.
The 1M doesn't need saving because its a discontinued model, or am I reading something else in your statement.
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      07-24-2013, 05:46 PM   #20
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Not faster than a 1M....... According to Scott that's an error.

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=84
Actually I just realise that this is incorrect John. Read my latest comment on that thread on page 6 I think.
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      07-24-2013, 06:42 PM   #21
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The 1M claim did seem a bit too bold but regardless im still very interested. Still waiting to see what the final look will be.

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      07-24-2013, 07:05 PM   #22
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The M135 is probably quicker than a 1M with that gearbox it has. These cars will prove to be far les tuneable though as we have seen with the N55. A45 would be quicker for sure, but which is the special fun factor car?...1M.

I am very surprised that BMW is putting in LSDs to these cars as will dilute the real ///M cars as will xdrive option. From what I read on the 435i though the LSD isn't the same as those in M cars.
fancy as hell gearbox, but less power, less power potential, bushings, LSD, control arms, springs/dampers/bracing etc.

though, the N55 should have a turbo upgrade soon which will wake it up

i'm surprised you say it will dilute the 'real m's'

you know E30/E36, they offered LSD's on many non-M models right?

it's not a 'diluting' of anything, the not offering LSD's at all was a global dilution of the brand.. they're meant to be 'sporty' cars, even from the lowest model.
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