curious- much difference between 10spr and Prof sound systems?

TimH · 07-24-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieRacer

With the current 1 series range, you can pick the difference visually between the systems:
STD (6 speaker) - no grill/tweeter near rear view mirrors
Hi-Fi (10 speaker) - grill and tweeter installed near rear view mirrors
Hi-Fi Pro (10 speakers) - looks the same as Hi-Fi, but in the menu options of the head unit there should be a logic 7 option on the second menu page of the audio settings

Even the 6 speaker has the grill for the tweeter near the mirrors. All I had to buy was the tweeter and plug them in.
The post facelift might not have the grill anymore. The 3 dr hatch in the UK now has a blank.

You can definitely tell by the raised tweeter pods in the rear though.

Guran · 07-25-2008, 06:30 PM

Seems to me that the Hi-Fi Pro system merely adds a digital surround sound amp to the package, which gives you the option of altering the soundscape between things like concert, jazzroom, etc. I don't use those features on my home theatre, so I doubt I'd get the value of it in a car. Hence I optioned the Hi-Fi (10 speaker) only.

Kris · 07-25-2008, 06:35 PM

I'm not sure if HiFi has this, but the Hifi Pro has a far bigger amplifier and metal cone speakers along with the DSP control. The soundscape as you put it settings aren't useful, but the eq is very useful. I tuned mine as per e90post and the difference was staggering! I have the HiFi Pro

AussieRacer · 07-25-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TimH

Even the 6 speaker has the grill for the tweeter near the mirrors. All I had to buy was the tweeter and plug them in.
The post facelift might not have the grill anymore. The 3 dr hatch in the UK now has a blank.

You can definitely tell by the raised tweeter pods in the rear though.

Yeah post facelift, no tweeter grill unless there is really a tweeter there. So to upgrade the Std system with front tweeters means you also need to get grill covers. I did the sums and it came to something like $600 to do the front tweeter upgrade on a post facelift car. Hence I thought if I spend an extra $400 on the Hi-Fi upgrade I get the rears done as well, a bigger sub and more powerful amp.

Rear grill hump when tweeter is there is a hatch thing only, so it doesn't help all the new coupe boys here.

Swift135 · 07-25-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris

I tuned mine as per e90post and the difference was staggering! I have the HiFi Pro

Hi Kris, what setting are you currently running, I checked the e90 post and every 2nd person had their own settings? i have just played it by ear

and made adjustments here and there.

Kris · 07-25-2008, 07:20 PM

Swift135 - my car isn't with me now, but there is a post on E90post that details the settings by a Audio buff, give them a go...

I think I used these..

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42672

Swift135 · 07-25-2008, 07:25 PM

I'll give it a go, i've just gone a few points either way from the center line. Thanks.

MadMan77 · 07-25-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris

Swift135 - my car isn't with me now, but there is a post on E90post that details the settings by a Audio buff, give them a go...

I think I used these..

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42672

Thanks there man. Saved me some searching so I can set up my 1 when it gets here in a week.

Kris · 07-26-2008, 06:22 AM

My pleasure

professor · 07-26-2008, 10:24 PM

Kris, do you know whether the equalizer settings can be stored on the favourite buttons? That would be something!

BTW, I think that the rear fade setting is too much for my liking in that post (about 2 or 3 seems enough for me)

Kiwi · 07-27-2008, 01:49 AM

BMW cost cutting. On my standard face lift 118d it has standard sweeter speakers (8 speakers in total). This makes a lot of difference and brings the sound up from the bottom of the car. Why would BMW take out such important speakers.

It's as stupid as not having drink holders as standard:iono:

farug55 · 07-27-2008, 05:30 AM

just out of curiosity, have any of you guys compared these systems either Hifi of Hifi Pro to other cars, for instance the levinson system in the is250, or otherwise??

Swift135 · 07-27-2008, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by farug55

just out of curiosity, have any of you guys compared these systems either Hifi of Hifi Pro to other cars, for instance the levinson system in the is250, or otherwise??

My wife drives a IS250 with the mark levinson system, the lexus system has a little lower bass but its not as tight a sound as the Hifi pro in my 135, the BMW system also give you much more ability to tweak the sound and will play much louder without distortion.

Kris · 07-27-2008, 05:44 AM

Not that im aware of professor!

farug55 · 07-27-2008, 05:54 AM

thanks swift. clears it up alot, my sister drives the IS with the levinson system and it is one of my favourite things about the car.

im goin to test drive the 1coupe during the wk so hopfully i can test it out and get a feel for it myself

Swift135 · 07-27-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by farug55

thanks swift. clears it up alot, my sister drives the IS with the levinson system and it is one of my favourite things about the car.

im goin to test drive the 1coupe during the wk so hopfully i can test it out and get a feel for it myself

Just make sure the one you try has the logic 7 system if it has a 7 band equaliser then it is the HiFi professional.

farug55 · 07-30-2008, 06:25 AM

i went to the dealer today, and the feedback, after asking him what HiFi system they had in a 120i 'vert demo was "you can't really tell the difference. we don't sell many anyway. don't worry about it" i was in awe of how ignorant this clown was.

He was inflating ballpark prices to my dad, claimed that there were no 125 coupes, but when he recognised that we were serious about buying took us downstairs and showed us three plus 2sold 135i's.

Overall pretty crummy dealer service, but as usual, expected

farug55 · 07-30-2008, 07:20 AM

oh and when i suggested that the easy way to tell btw the 125 and 135 was only the 135 didnt have fog lights, he started arguing with me telling me i was wrong. hahhaha. interesting exp. overall but i want the 1coupe now more than ever

smarm · 07-30-2008, 03:39 PM

Which dealer farug55?

farug55 · 07-30-2008, 10:06 PM

menere's.

WAY · 07-30-2008, 11:08 PM

If you want to continue going to Menere's, go and see Tony White who is the sales manager. He is very good and I dealt with him years ago when he was in BMW Melbourne. He sold me my first BMW actually. Tell him Wayne sent you. I will PM you my last name if you want to go back to Menere's. If not I have very good contacts with BMW Melbourne and am a VIP customer there.

WAY · 07-30-2008, 11:16 PM

Btw, I only have the bare basic sound system on my 135i, and it isn't bad. Then again I don't really listen much to it when I drive the car.

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Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	I'm not sure if HiFi has this, but the Hifi Pro has a far bigger amplifier and metal cone speakers along with the DSP control. The soundscape as you put it settings aren't useful, but the eq is very useful. I tuned mine as per e90post and the difference was staggering! I have the HiFi Pro
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Kris Colonel 123 Rep 2,295 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USOFA iTrader: (0)	Swift135 - my car isn't with me now, but there is a post on E90post that details the settings by a Audio buff, give them a go... I think I used these.. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42672
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Swift135 Lieutenant 23 Rep 453 Posts Drives: 330d, M3 DCT E92 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	I'll give it a go, i've just gone a few points either way from the center line. Thanks. __________________
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professor Major 46 Rep 1,473 Posts Drives: Z4 M40i Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	Kris, do you know whether the equalizer settings can be stored on the favourite buttons? That would be something! BTW, I think that the rear fade setting is too much for my liking in that post (about 2 or 3 seems enough for me)
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Kiwi Captain 145 Rep 917 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M Sports Convertible Join Date: May 2005 Location: Auckland New Zealand iTrader: (0)	BMW cost cutting. On my standard face lift 118d it has standard sweeter speakers (8 speakers in total). This makes a lot of difference and brings the sound up from the bottom of the car. Why would BMW take out such important speakers. It's as stupid as not having drink holders as standard:iono:
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farug55 Private 1 Rep 63 Posts Drives: E92 325i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VIC iTrader: (0)	just out of curiosity, have any of you guys compared these systems either Hifi of Hifi Pro to other cars, for instance the levinson system in the is250, or otherwise??
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farug55 Private 1 Rep 63 Posts Drives: E92 325i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VIC iTrader: (0)	thanks swift. clears it up alot, my sister drives the IS with the levinson system and it is one of my favourite things about the car. im goin to test drive the 1coupe during the wk so hopfully i can test it out and get a feel for it myself
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farug55 Private 1 Rep 63 Posts Drives: E92 325i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VIC iTrader: (0)	i went to the dealer today, and the feedback, after asking him what HiFi system they had in a 120i 'vert demo was "you can't really tell the difference. we don't sell many anyway. don't worry about it" i was in awe of how ignorant this clown was. He was inflating ballpark prices to my dad, claimed that there were no 125 coupes, but when he recognised that we were serious about buying took us downstairs and showed us three plus 2sold 135i's. Overall pretty crummy dealer service, but as usual, expected
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farug55 Private 1 Rep 63 Posts Drives: E92 325i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VIC iTrader: (0)	oh and when i suggested that the easy way to tell btw the 125 and 135 was only the 135 didnt have fog lights, he started arguing with me telling me i was wrong. hahhaha. interesting exp. overall but i want the 1coupe now more than ever
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WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Btw, I only have the bare basic sound system on my 135i, and it isn't bad. Then again I don't really listen much to it when I drive the car.
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