Just ordered m3 control arms

[Zombie1]

Got it from turner motorsports couldn't justify buying the OE bmw version after getting to hold both sets in hand...

M3 front upper control arms (thrust arm, tension strut) (31102283575 and 31102283576)
The upper control arms eliminate the fluid-filled stock bushing which is very prone to leaking the fluid and cease being effective. The solid rubber M3 bushing is also a bit stiffer for more precise steering and control.
M3 front upper inner bushings (31102283579)
M3 front lower control arms (wishbone) (31102283577 and 31102283578)
The M3 lower control arm has a sealed inner bearing instead of the rubber-isolated stock bushing. The bearing allows the lower arm to rotate freely instead of binding up. It's also a bit longer and curved slightly to give more negative camber (adds .75 of negative camber).
M3 headlight adjusting rod (37142283867)
Replaces the stock rod on cars with adaptive headlights.
I also already have the M3 rear subframe bushings, next pice of the puzzle is the
TCKR E82/E9X Koni Coilover Kit! Then ill try to figure out what's next any ideas?

[andrey_gta]

Congrats,
So you got the TRW version? What was your impression when you had them in hand?
What is turners shipping cost within USA, it will give me idea my cost.

Isnt M3 front upper inner bushings (31102283579) already included in M3 front upper control arms (thrust arm, tension strut) ??

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by andrey_gta

Congrats,
So you got the TRW version? What was your impression when you had them in hand?
What is turners shipping cost within USA, it will give me idea my cost.

Isnt M3 front upper inner bushings (31102283579) already included in M3 front upper control arms (thrust arm, tension strut) ??

If I shaved them both down and took the markings off NO ONE could tell the difference, my friend who is a MASTER BMW mechanic was with me and he looked at me and said your really debating about paying over 200 dollars more for the same pice that has a BMW stamp on it? Kinda made me feel stupid then he showed me TRW website and said no company that makes this many OE parts for car companies is gonna skimp out on quality he said your buying a NAME they both come with identical manufacturers warranties... And this is a guy who has been with BMW 10+ years so ill take his word over any blogger on this forum. Hope this helps you I know I was hitting my head into a wall till just yesterday over it I know flincy has had them for awhile and says all of us are looking into it to much and after seeing it in person last night I agree


As for shipping they are really great I think the most I've ever paid was 20 bucks and the parts were here in less then 3 days and it was about 8 pounds in total weight

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by Zombie1

M3 front upper inner bushings (31102283579)

I do not think you will need to order the thrust rod bushings since the new M3 thrust rods should come with one already. (#11 and #6 in the parts diagram bellow...)

M3 front upper control arms (thrust arm) (31102283575 and 31102283576).


I would also replace the factory tie rods with M3/1M tie rods (complete).
bmw p/n #32102283462 and #32102283461





And for the rear suspension I would at least replace the tension rods #17, #18 and #13. Later one I would also go with the alloy control arms (#4) plus you will need new rear shocks since the 1M/M3 rear shocks mounts differently than 135i units.

[andrey_gta]

I guess he can sell the extra M3 front upper inner bushings (31102283579)


I think they fit OEM arms...
Does anyone know?

Turner sells OEM arms with MyeleHD bushings, why cant one just press in /M busing instead of MyeleHD?

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I do not think you will need to order the thrust rod bushings since the new M3 thrust rods should come with one already. (#11 and #6 in the parts diagram bellow...)

M3 front upper control arms (thrust arm) (31102283575 and 31102283576).


I would also replace the factory tie rods with M3/1M tie rods (complete).
bmw p/n #32102283462

And for the rear suspension I would at least replace the tension rods #17, #18 and #13. Later one I would also go with the alloy control arms (#4) plus you will need new rear shocks since the 1M/M3 rear shocks mounts differently than 135i units.

Think ill have trouble without the tie rods?

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by andrey_gta

Turner sells OEM arms with MyeleHD bushings, why cant one just press in /M busing instead of MyeleHD?

IF they don't come with the M inner bushing(thrust rod) wouldn't that suggest they are OEM and not OE M units?

Sure you can just press in the new M bushings. But I think if the new parts don't have the harder M inner bushing, that link isn't an M part. Maybe just an Myele part.

Originally Posted by Zombie1

Think ill have trouble without the tie rods?

No. But if you are doing ALL this work... why not do it right the first time. ?

[andrey_gta]

^^ no, the rear is fine as is.
Dackelone just outlined popular mods to the rear
Tie rod is often changed when lowered to the Megan adjustable arm vs the m3 part

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by andrey_gta

^^ no, the rear is fine as is.
Dackelone just outlined popular mods to the rear

So I'm on a budget but one day I'd love to run a full M suspension!

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

IF they don't come with the M inner bushing(thrust rod) wouldn't that suggest they are OEM and not OE M units?

Sure you can just press in the new M bushings. But I think if the new parts don't have the harder M inner bushing, that link isn't an M part. Maybe just an Myele part.

Interesting, one has to check Turner website to be sure
Every TRW //M upper arm so far has had the /M bushing pre installed. So i'm confused why the order included the M bushing.

Myele makes OEM e90/e82 arms with their HD bushings pressed in.

OEM vs //M upper arm dont really have any difference in length, maybe there is a difference in aluminum strength/material. But the known difference is the bushing. Others have replaced OEM bushings with myeleHD, so why cant we do the same using ///M bushing

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by andrey_gta

Interesting, one has to check Turner website to be sure
Every TRW //M upper arm so far has had the /M bushing pre installed. So i'm confused why the order included the M bushing.

Myele makes OEM e90/e82 arms with their HD bushings pressed in.

OEM vs //M upper arm dont really have any difference in length, maybe there is a difference in aluminum strength/material. But the known difference is the bushing. Others have replaced OEM bushings with myeleHD, so why cant we do the same using ///M bushing

[Zombie1]

Parts on back order till 4/22

[andrey_gta]

Regarding 31102283579

On Turner they say it fits OEM nonM arms. (//M arms are recommended for replacing the pivot ball on the arm end & stronger design & different aluminium forging method)

This can also be used as an upgrade on non-M (and non-Xi) 3-series and 1-series chassis. The solid rubber of the M3 is a better and longer-lasting bushing than the fluid-filled stock E90 bushing. These M3 bushings are a bit stiffer than the original design so the steering and handling will be sharper while maintaining M3-levels of ride comfort.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-50...1m-e9x-m3.aspx

[Zombie1]

You will receive the 4 arms with the bushings already installed. You do not get extra bushings. We list the bushings separately so the customer knows exactly what they are getting (including the part #’s of the parts). Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Thank you


Jason G
Sales Manager

[SteveAZ]

Originally Posted by Zombie1

You will receive the 4 arms with the bushings already installed. You do not get extra bushings. We list the bushings separately so the customer knows exactly what they are getting (including the part #’s of the parts). Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Thank you


Jason G
Sales Manager

This is true, included will be the 4 arms with the bushings installed... a longer headlight adjusting rod (you will need to supply a nut for this, I believe it was 10mm) and 4 new nuts. I personally didn't replace my tie rods as there was no play in them (they had 28k on them) and they still don't.

To answer your original question, I would replace the FSB if you haven't already. The M3 will be larger and the bushings are thinner and firmer.

If your car is low mileage...I would hold off on dampers until you truly upgrade them. You may find stock are fine since you aren't lowering it. Of course this has the potential to cost you an extra alignment. However, I'm willing to bet with the other new bits...you'll be plenty happy unless you plan on hitting the track, and if that's the case...it even further supports my point in waiting to purchase quality coilovers.

[Derk1127]

Now if only we could get the trw m3 rear lower arms that would be awesome

[Zombie1]

Originally Posted by SteveAZ

This is true, included will be the 4 arms with the bushings installed... a longer headlight adjusting rod (you will need to supply a nut for this, I believe it was 10mm) and 4 new nuts. I personally didn't replace my tie rods as there was no play in them (they had 28k on them) and they still don't.

To answer your original question, I would replace the FSB if you haven't already. The M3 will be larger and the bushings are thinner and firmer.

If your car is low mileage...I would hold off on dampers until you truly upgrade them. You may find stock are fine since you aren't lowering it. Of course this has the potential to cost you an extra alignment. However, I'm willing to bet with the other new bits...you'll be plenty happy unless you plan on hitting the track, and if that's the case...it even further supports my point in waiting to purchase quality coilovers.

I just got done reading about your RSFB install and review awesome breakdown...

[SteveAZ]

Originally Posted by Zombie1

I just got done reading about your RSFB install and review awesome breakdown...

Thanks, good luck with your installs and report back as to your impressions.

[fe1rx]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

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And for the rear suspension I would at least replace the tension rods #17, #18 and #13. Later one I would also go with the alloy control arms (#4) plus you will need new rear shocks since the 1M/M3 rear shocks mounts differently than 135i units.

Are you sure the M toe control link (13) is compatible?

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by fe1rx

Are you sure the M toe control link (13) is compatible?

No, I am not. I am just learning just like you on these M3 suspension bits. I would suggest you ask Harold at HP Autowerks - he was the very first person/shop to perfect the upgrading of M3 suspension bits onto a non-M car.